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True. We don't necessarily know who's evil but let's be honest if the wolves are manipulating the "good evil reveal" lists they can easily put all the baddies up top as empowerment contenders. I'm not entirely sure why they haven't mentioned it(full disclosure I haven't read the living thread since yesterday.)
There are what? 5 of us here? Pervinca is gone that leaves ten with four baddies and one in reserve. I forget if Kuru confirmed that the EW number wise counts for innocent. They're either at 7/3 or 6/4 getting a wolf and having one resurrected or added only gives them 6/3 or 5/4. I'm just not sure a reveal will help them. I think it's safe to say we're all prey. I realize there's no guarantee of that.
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Yep. I am ordo. I mean I assume they wluld have told me if I were a visitor.
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So much chatting while I was asleep.
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So yeah, They're at 6/4
So today is do or die. If they get a wolf and EW makes a new one and the night kill is successful that's actually.... that's game isn't it? 6/3 wolf lynched 5/4 wolf made 4/4 Night kill. If I'm doing the math right pretty much the baddies have already won. Unless there's a ranger save.
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Oh no. Don't tell me I mighg have to go back? Oh noooo.. oh well I can tell them they are screwed less obliquely.
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If I were a visitor then it might indicate someone who knows me pretty well being the Good Wizard... which is encouraging. I need to have a look back with this in mind. Reminds me of this sketch.
https://youtu.be/nKzaHilb7Vc I'm not a wizard, I am not the ranger, pretty sure I am not the Secretary of the Eriador Dragon, Balrog and other Winged Creature Preservation Society...
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Oh it is a couple of executives on a plane and one asks the other what he does and he says he hasn't a clue - he just flies around the world having meetings with other men who look like him so they try to work it out "I am not a baker or I'd have one of those hats, I am not prime minister, a chocolatier, a special needs class room assistant and I am fairly sure I am not secretary of the Scottish Country Dance Association." and so on. Funnier than that sounds. Armstrong and Miller "What do I do?"
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Looks like they swapped Steve and Nog, but didn't touch the Prey section, so our options haven't actually changed.
I'm getting worried about Legate and Nog as packmates. Nog worries me in general, but looking at Legate's attitude towards him, I could see him as a wolf laying down baseline suspicion, but then pulling out of the vote at the last minute to throw off the numbers... I do think Eomer and Nerwen's analysis of the narration makes sense. It's been nice having you, Mith, if you do turn out to be the Visitor Who Leaves.
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Just in case Should we collate a list of things we would like to say to them? I assume the Visitor should not read the dead thread while they are revenant.
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![]() What we really need is a good Weeeeezard's Dueeeeel. Knowing who the EW is would allow us to speculate on who they would pick as wolves. But Wizards will do what Wizards will do.
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Oh that I can manage... I was thinking we might want to tell them their mother was a hamster and their father smelt of elderberries...
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I mean, I am not opposed to this message!
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And that we don't want their stupid plan because we have already got one and it is vairy naice.
Basically we want them to build a large wooden badger AND give us a shrubbery. But it better be a nice one.
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Fun fact. I have Jury Duty. And I'm doing WW while at Jury Duty. Very Meta.
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Also I know we're not 100% on Nerwen, but since she's already voted for Nog, who I personally highly suspect, and is in the Lottie is Prey group, I would not be opposed to empowering her toDay.
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I think that's a good idea.
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Lol.
I think revealing the EW is the most important thing right now. And a ranger save
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A hunter taking out a baddie would work too I suppose because that doesn't necessarily change the numbers.
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Yeah I thought Nog's insisting that it wasn't as dire as Nerwen made it seem was a little suspicious. Of everyone, Nog should have realized that it could well be end game already.
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Thing is there are a lot of role in this game and they are actively chosen rather than randomly allocated and it is inconceivable that a player like Nerwen who is very cool under pressure and grasps strategy wouldn't be a wizard choice if she isn't a wizard, so I hope she is on our side. I rather hope an innocent Nogrod wouldn't have wasted so much time yesterday.
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It may also be the case that Nerwen was too tempting a target, and both Wizards left her alone because they both assumed the other would have gotten there first. But that's just speculation. Another question that might be worth asking is, if Mith is a Visitor, who did the wolves try (and fail) to kill last Night? Either the Ranger and EW targeted the same person or that the EW hit upon the GW, in which case, we might be close to the EW knowing who the GW is. I don't know that the EW would call the Duel yet, though, not without losing a wolf first (and therefore being able to use their final wolf pick).
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Wow, slow day.
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Really. Have the innocents lost the will to live?
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The Dead are more lively by far. The silence is...disheartening,
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Just reading through and have horrible thought that Boro is a wolf. IIRC he tends to give a clue to his role in his opening post and he says he feels denned up. And I am not sure that the deathwish is a contraindicator. He likes doing his own thing,
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In that case, his deathwish Day One could point to Nerwen as EW, for the same reason it pointed to me. And he would have then backed off later because he'd had a chance to build trails to his packmates and the EW, so there's now a risk associated with his role being revealed. I'm worried about that, too.
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I'm still ok with empowering Nerwen.
Frankly I'm crunching the numbers and I only see getting the EW Revealed as the only strategy because it throws the numbers off.
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Is Shasta an alternative? Has he posted.. I know he has been ill. I recall his judgement saved the day the last time I played. But there could be a lot of wolves active now
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I'm really crossing my fingers that the GW can scry the EW and call the Duel...I'd prefer getting rid of the EW to getting another Visitor, if it comes down to that, and I agree that the EW needs to go asap.
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