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Estanesse · 11-05-2003, 10:20 AM

No and not even close.

Turambar · 11-05-2003, 06:53 PM

It's not that Tuor was the only one born in the Year of Lamentation, is it?

Telchar · 11-06-2003, 01:36 AM

I can build somethin one that one ...

Tuor was the only one that never met his father (huor being killed in battle before he was born)

Estanesse · 11-06-2003, 03:47 PM

Two very good answers but not the answers I’m looking for.

Don’t take the age hint to strict.

Finwe · 11-06-2003, 06:33 PM

Tuor, because he was the youngest to fight in a battle.

Estanesse · 11-07-2003, 02:06 AM

Maybe age was not so good a hint. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
*MAJOR HINT* THE ENEMY

Finwe · 11-07-2003, 08:53 AM

Hurin because he was the only one who fought against the Enemy face to face?

Estanesse · 11-07-2003, 09:59 AM

nope

Estanesse · 11-13-2003, 08:03 AM

*hint* it's not the enemy

Telchar · 11-13-2003, 04:44 PM

hmmmmm....

[ November 13, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

Evisse the Blue · 11-14-2003, 01:29 AM

(trying to take into account all the hints and all the wrong answers): Tuor is the OMO because his fate was prophesized during a fierce battle with the enemy.
ahem. this sounds a bit 'out there'. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Estanesse · 11-14-2003, 05:16 AM

Sorry Evisse

hint* Three of the four have something in common

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-14-2003, 08:50 AM

Quote:

*MAJOR HINT* THE ENEMY

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*hint* it's not the enemy

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hmmmmm....

Indeed. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Estanesse · 11-14-2003, 11:55 AM

It’s a bit of a contradiction [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] but it’s still a good hint (I hope) [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Finwe · 11-14-2003, 06:25 PM

Turin was the only one mentioned, who would do anything after the end of the First Age, and who would be instrumental in killing Morgoth (according to the Second Prophecy of Mandos, Morgoth would fall by the black sword of Turin).

Telchar · 11-15-2003, 03:43 AM

Does it have anything to do with who they kill???

Estanesse · 11-15-2003, 07:45 AM

No and nope it has nothing to do with who they kill

*HINT*
It has to do with battles.
It has nothing to do with what they did.
Nothing to do with family.
THE ENEMY ( not Morgoth)
Three of the four have something in common

[ November 15, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

Finwe · 11-15-2003, 12:48 PM

Turin, because he was the only one who was his own enemy?

The Laurenendorian · 11-16-2003, 11:06 AM

All but Huor were defeated in battle but survived, whereas Huor was slain?

Estanesse · 11-16-2003, 01:51 PM

No and no. It has nothing to do with dead.

Lasgalen · 11-16-2003, 09:57 PM

Only Huor was not involved somehow in the downfall of an Elven stronghold?

Estanesse · 11-18-2003, 06:23 AM

Nope

Finwe · 11-23-2003, 12:03 PM

Turin, because he was the main enemy of The Enemy.

Estanesse · 11-23-2003, 02:40 PM

Nope but you are on the right track

[ November 23, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

Estanesse · 12-22-2003, 01:23 PM

Dragon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NightKnight · 12-23-2003, 05:05 AM

Turin killed a dragon?

Estanesse · 12-23-2003, 05:59 AM

Yes he did but thats not the answer I'm looking for.

Quote:

*HINT*
It has to do with battles.
It has nothing to do with what they did.
Nothing to do with family.
THE ENEMY ( not Morgoth)
Three of the four have something in common

Quote:

Dragon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 7:00 AM December 23, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

Evisse the Blue · 12-23-2003, 07:49 AM

My Goodness, this riddle still hasn't been solved?? You're good, Estanesse, you're really good! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Ok - so is the answer Tuor because he never had Glaurung as an enemy in a battle, while the rest did: Hurin and Huor in the battle of unnumbered tears, while Turin faced Glaurung afterwards and killed him. (mumbles to herself: hasn't this already been said? in two pages of trials and errors, that's very likely, oh well, my two cents...)

Estanesse · 12-23-2003, 08:06 AM

Well thank you for your kind words Evisse the Blue. But my question wasn't so hard was it [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img].

Evisse the Blue · 12-24-2003, 11:50 AM

Well, after you provided all the hints possible, sure it wasn't hard! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Here's mine: Odd woman out this time (OWO) [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Arwen
Eowyn
Mrs Maggot
Lobelia Sackville-Baggins
Rosie Cotton

Finwe · 12-24-2003, 04:09 PM

Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, because she was the only one who was mean to a Hobbit?

Evisse the Blue · 12-25-2003, 05:09 AM

Nope.

Telchar · 12-25-2003, 06:45 AM

Rosie - because she never gave a gift away

NightKnight · 12-25-2003, 02:41 PM

Eowyn was the only one who wasn't mentioned in the first book (as far as I can remember)?

Evisse the Blue · 12-26-2003, 03:40 AM

Telchar, you're on, that's what I had in mind! And I thought I made a toughie...

Telchar · 12-26-2003, 05:17 AM

It was a toughie [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I think it was Mrs Maggot that gave it away - all she ever did was give Frodo those mushrooms ... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Well since its still christmas, then lets have another go with the women - and of course the OWO is new and for a completely different reason

Arwen
Eowyn
Mrs Maggot
Lobelia Sackville-Baggins
Rosie Cotton

[img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Estanesse · 12-26-2003, 06:03 AM

Eowyn, she has never set foot in the shire.

Telchar · 12-26-2003, 12:10 PM

correct owo - but Im looking for another reason although that was a good one [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Estanesse · 12-26-2003, 03:54 PM

Another try, is the owo Eowyn [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] . She never met Frodo before Sméagol destroyed the ring.

Telchar · 12-27-2003, 08:35 AM

Not that either...

11-05-2003, 10:20 AM	#881
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	No and not even close. __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

11-05-2003, 06:53 PM	#882
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	It's not that Tuor was the only one born in the Year of Lamentation, is it? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

11-06-2003, 01:36 AM	#883
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	I can build somethin one that one ... Tuor was the only one that never met his father (huor being killed in battle before he was born) __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

11-06-2003, 03:47 PM	#884
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Two very good answers but not the answers I’m looking for. Don’t take the age hint to strict. __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

11-06-2003, 06:33 PM	#885
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Tuor, because he was the youngest to fight in a battle. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

11-07-2003, 02:06 AM	#886
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Maybe age was not so good a hint. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] MAJOR HINT THE ENEMY __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

11-07-2003, 08:53 AM	#887
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Hurin because he was the only one who fought against the Enemy face to face? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

11-07-2003, 09:59 AM	#888
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	nope __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

11-13-2003, 08:03 AM	#889
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	hint it's not the enemy __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

11-13-2003, 04:44 PM	#890
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	hmmmmm.... [ November 13, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

11-14-2003, 01:29 AM	#891
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,740	(trying to take into account all the hints and all the wrong answers): Tuor is the OMO because his fate was prophesized during a fierce battle with the enemy. ahem. this sounds a bit 'out there'. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

11-14-2003, 05:16 AM	#892
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Sorry Evisse hint* Three of the four have something in common __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

11-14-2003, 11:55 AM	#894
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	It’s a bit of a contradiction [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] but it’s still a good hint (I hope) [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

11-14-2003, 06:25 PM	#895
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Turin was the only one mentioned, who would do anything after the end of the First Age, and who would be instrumental in killing Morgoth (according to the Second Prophecy of Mandos, Morgoth would fall by the black sword of Turin). __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

11-15-2003, 03:43 AM	#896
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Does it have anything to do with who they kill??? __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

11-15-2003, 07:45 AM	#897
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	No and nope it has nothing to do with who they kill HINT It has to do with battles. It has nothing to do with what they did. Nothing to do with family. THE ENEMY ( not Morgoth) Three of the four have something in common [ November 15, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ] __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

11-15-2003, 12:48 PM	#898
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Turin, because he was the only one who was his own enemy? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

11-16-2003, 11:06 AM	#899
The Laurenendorian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Taruithorn Posts: 57	All but Huor were defeated in battle but survived, whereas Huor was slain? __________________ And Beren desperate then aside / thrust Lúthien, and forth did stride, unarmed, defenceless to defend / Tinúviel until the end

11-16-2003, 01:51 PM	#900
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	No and no. It has nothing to do with dead. __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

11-16-2003, 09:57 PM	#901
Lasgalen Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 101	Only Huor was not involved somehow in the downfall of an Elven stronghold? __________________ When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

11-18-2003, 06:23 AM	#902
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Nope __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

11-23-2003, 12:03 PM	#903
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Turin, because he was the main enemy of The Enemy. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

11-23-2003, 02:40 PM	#904
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Nope but you are on the right track [ November 23, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ] __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

12-22-2003, 01:23 PM	#905
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Dragon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

12-23-2003, 05:05 AM	#906
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,696	Turin killed a dragon? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

12-23-2003, 07:49 AM	#908
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,740	My Goodness, this riddle still hasn't been solved?? You're good, Estanesse, you're really good! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Ok - so is the answer Tuor because he never had Glaurung as an enemy in a battle, while the rest did: Hurin and Huor in the battle of unnumbered tears, while Turin faced Glaurung afterwards and killed him. (mumbles to herself: hasn't this already been said? in two pages of trials and errors, that's very likely, oh well, my two cents...) __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

12-23-2003, 08:06 AM	#909
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Well thank you for your kind words Evisse the Blue. But my question wasn't so hard was it [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.

12-24-2003, 11:50 AM	#910
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,740	Well, after you provided all the hints possible, sure it wasn't hard! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Here's mine: Odd woman out this time (OWO) [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Arwen Eowyn Mrs Maggot Lobelia Sackville-Baggins Rosie Cotton __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

12-24-2003, 04:09 PM	#911
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, because she was the only one who was mean to a Hobbit? __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-25-2003, 05:09 AM	#912
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,740	Nope. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

12-25-2003, 06:45 AM	#913
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Rosie - because she never gave a gift away __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-25-2003, 02:41 PM	#914
NightKnight Lost among the Stars Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hiding in Childhood (Sweden) Posts: 2,696	Eowyn was the only one who wasn't mentioned in the first book (as far as I can remember)? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can't.

12-26-2003, 03:40 AM	#915
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,740	Telchar, you're on, that's what I had in mind! And I thought I made a toughie... __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

12-26-2003, 05:17 AM	#916
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	It was a toughie [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I think it was Mrs Maggot that gave it away - all she ever did was give Frodo those mushrooms ... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Well since its still christmas, then lets have another go with the women - and of course the OWO is new and for a completely different reason Arwen Eowyn Mrs Maggot Lobelia Sackville-Baggins Rosie Cotton [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

12-26-2003, 06:03 AM	#917
Estanesse Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: somewhere far away Posts: 561	Eowyn, she has never set foot in the shire. __________________ Since there is no time like the present, I thought it was time to present the present.