can dead orcs move? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

06-25-2004, 11:26 AM

Near the end of FotR, when Boromir had just been shot and left for dead, Aragorn ran over to him. Befor he got there, he jumped over this dead orc, and the dead ocr lifted it's head up and propped itself up on it's elbows!

did anyone else notice this or am i just going crazy?

Son of Númenor · 06-25-2004, 12:13 PM

That's what the film industry intelligenstia refer to as a "slip up."

Gorwingel · 06-26-2004, 01:01 AM

Noticed that during my 5th viewing of FOTR about 2 years ago (was it really that long ago, or am I going crazy?). No, I doubt that dead orcs move, but in this instance it was most definitely just a slip up. When I first saw that I couldn't believe my eyes, and I had a very difficult time keeping myself from laughing in the theater

The Only Real Estel · 06-26-2004, 04:14 PM

Well, perhaps he was not quite dead yet, & he used his last bit of strength to prop himself up on his elbows (or lift his head, whichever it was). Just to play the devil's advocate

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Kuruharan · 06-26-2004, 04:19 PM

Perhaps something was still sticking in his central nervous system?

06-26-2004, 04:49 PM

you guys are amasing i thought i was obsessed now i'm going to have to watch it again. but as stated it is quite possible that he had something in his nervous system.

Audreidi · 06-28-2004, 07:19 PM

Hhmmmm...although, there might be those dwarfish scientists who are so inclined to take cadavers from the roadside as did dearest Leonardo, and perform a dissection for self-educational purposes.

Stranger things have happened.

Heh... Monty Python.

Quote:

DEAD PERSON: I'm getting better!

CUSTOMER: No, you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment.

CART MASTER: Oh, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.

DEAD PERSON: I don't want to go on the cart!

CUSTOMER: Oh, don't be such a baby.

ninlaith · 07-13-2004, 01:53 PM

Well I suppose dead orcs can move....???......Especially if you have your axe embedded in a dead Uruk-hai's nervous system and are sittin' pretty on number 43 while the Elf has 42. As a fellow actor it's hard to contain yourself sometimes when you're performing. That's where ad-libbing comes from. Maybe.....he thought his "dead orc" wasn't really dead and wanted to check and see if the coast was clear to get his Aragorn-beaten-butt out of there!

Encaitare · 07-19-2004, 02:28 PM

Elrond's Daughter, you rock. I was actually thinking about that when reading this thread... "Well, er...I'm not quite dead."

And yesh, Gimli's line was dumb. Amusing but OOC.

Boromir88 · 07-19-2004, 04:31 PM

Through these movies there were many "slip ups." At the council, snot comes out of Gimli's nose, in TTT, one minute Gimli's axe has blood on it, next shot it doesn't. In ROTK, Frodo was covered in webs going through Shelob's tunnel, then isn't then is again when the scene with him imagining Galadriel, those are just some of the ones. They actually hire people to watch for these things in the movies they I believe are called "consistancy technicians" or something like that, to watch for "inconsistancies." The guy hired for LOTR is now probably a bum on the street.

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-19-2004, 04:45 PM

My favourite slip in all of the movies comes in TTT: when Eomer mounts his horse after confronting Aragorn, Leggie and Gimli, his sword falls out of its scabbard.

Quel horseman!

EDIT The person whose job it is to catch these things is called a Continuity Editor. I have always wanted that job. . .

08-08-2006, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elf @ Heart

Near the end of FotR, when Boromir had just been shot and left for dead, Aragorn ran over to him. Befor he got there, he jumped over this dead orc, and the dead ocr lifted it's head up and propped itself up on it's elbows!

did anyone else notice this or am i just going crazy?

I saw that...the orc maybe was dead, or was close to dying

Alcarin · 09-03-2006, 10:20 AM

I KNOW! Maybe it was an actor in an orc suit who made a mistake in the movie!

Just guessing!

10-05-2006, 05:21 AM

I guess he wasnt quite dead. orcs are just as mortal as anyone else.

doug*platypus · 11-15-2006, 08:34 PM

It was a Star Wars homage, of course! In The Empire Strikes Back, a recently Force-choked Captain Needa is clearly seen helping two guards carry him away by partially getting up himself. I'm just glad that PJ decided to leave this mysterious Captain Needa Orc in the final version!

ArathorofBarahir · 01-03-2007, 02:25 PM

I think that was a slip up and besides if the orc is dead, its dead.

Celegost · 03-15-2007, 02:32 PM

Has anyone actually considered that the orc might not have been dead yet?

FeRaL sHaDoW · 03-15-2007, 06:03 PM

We Got A Twicther.

06-25-2004, 11:26 AM	#1
Elf @ Heart Guest Posts: n/a	can dead orcs move? Near the end of FotR, when Boromir had just been shot and left for dead, Aragorn ran over to him. Befor he got there, he jumped over this dead orc, and the dead ocr lifted it's head up and propped itself up on it's elbows! did anyone else notice this or am i just going crazy?

06-25-2004, 12:13 PM	#2
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 527	That's what the film industry intelligenstia refer to as a "slip up." __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-26-2004, 01:01 AM	#3
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,436	Noticed that during my 5th viewing of FOTR about 2 years ago (was it really that long ago, or am I going crazy?). No, I doubt that dead orcs move, but in this instance it was most definitely just a slip up. When I first saw that I couldn't believe my eyes, and I had a very difficult time keeping myself from laughing in the theater __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

06-26-2004, 04:19 PM	#5
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,685	Perhaps something was still sticking in his central nervous system? __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

06-26-2004, 04:49 PM	#6
ashnak Guest Posts: n/a	can dead orks move? you guys are amasing i thought i was obsessed now i'm going to have to watch it again. but as stated it is quite possible that he had something in his nervous system.

06-26-2004, 04:14 PM	#4
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 3,025	Well, perhaps he was not quite dead yet, & he used his last bit of strength to prop himself up on his elbows (or lift his head, whichever it was). Just to play the devil's advocate .

07-13-2004, 01:53 PM	#8
ninlaith Wight Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: in my hobbit hole Posts: 204	Well I suppose dead orcs can move....???......Especially if you have your axe embedded in a dead Uruk-hai's nervous system and are sittin' pretty on number 43 while the Elf has 42. As a fellow actor it's hard to contain yourself sometimes when you're performing. That's where ad-libbing comes from. Maybe.....he thought his "dead orc" wasn't really dead and wanted to check and see if the coast was clear to get his Aragorn-beaten-butt out of there! Last edited by ninlaith; 07-13-2004 at 01:58 PM.

07-19-2004, 02:28 PM	#9
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 2,033	Elrond's Daughter, you rock. I was actually thinking about that when reading this thread... "Well, er...I'm not quite dead." And yesh, Gimli's line was dumb. Amusing but OOC.

07-19-2004, 04:31 PM	#10
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,559	Many slip ups Through these movies there were many "slip ups." At the council, snot comes out of Gimli's nose, in TTT, one minute Gimli's axe has blood on it, next shot it doesn't. In ROTK, Frodo was covered in webs going through Shelob's tunnel, then isn't then is again when the scene with him imagining Galadriel, those are just some of the ones. They actually hire people to watch for these things in the movies they I believe are called "consistancy technicians" or something like that, to watch for "inconsistancies." The guy hired for LOTR is now probably a bum on the street.

07-19-2004, 04:45 PM	#11
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,851	My favourite slip in all of the movies comes in TTT: when Eomer mounts his horse after confronting Aragorn, Leggie and Gimli, his sword falls out of its scabbard. Quel horseman! EDIT The person whose job it is to catch these things is called a Continuity Editor. I have always wanted that job. . .

09-03-2006, 10:20 AM	#13
Alcarin Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In your House Posts: 18	I KNOW! Maybe it was an actor in an orc suit who made a mistake in the movie! Just guessing! __________________ “By the Way of the warrior is meant death. The Way of the warrior is death. This means choosing death whenever there is a choice between life and death. It means nothing more than this. It means to see things through, being resolved.”

10-05-2006, 05:21 AM	#14
OrcLeaderalpha Guest Posts: n/a	I guess he wasnt quite dead. orcs are just as mortal as anyone else.

11-15-2006, 08:34 PM	#15
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 963	It was a Star Wars homage, of course! In The Empire Strikes Back, a recently Force-choked Captain Needa is clearly seen helping two guards carry him away by partially getting up himself. I'm just glad that PJ decided to leave this mysterious Captain Needa Orc in the final version! __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.

01-03-2007, 02:25 PM	#16
ArathorofBarahir Wight Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Crickhallow Posts: 247	I think that was a slip up and besides if the orc is dead, its dead. __________________ King of the Dead: The dead do not suffer the living to pass. Aragorn: You will suffer me.

03-15-2007, 02:32 PM	#17
Celegost Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 25	Has anyone actually considered that the orc might not have been dead yet? __________________ From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king.

03-15-2007, 06:03 PM	#18
FeRaL sHaDoW Wight Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 234	We Got A Twicther. __________________ God created night, but man created darkness....