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Old 07-10-2000, 08:05 PM   #1
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Galpsi (aka Tom H.) has written another tough quiz. It's about Gollum and can be seen http://www.barrowdowns.com/barrowdowns/Quiz10.asphere</a> first. This quiz will not be made available to non-forum visitors until the end of the week. Check it out and reply to tell galpsi what you think.

You're gonna need your books! <img src=smile.gif ALT="">

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Again...http://www.barrowdowns.com/barrowdowns/Quiz10.aspthe Gollum Quiz can be found here</a>.

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Old 07-11-2000, 04:37 AM   #2
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Tough, very tough. Tried it without the books, and I`m ashamed to admit that I scored 2/10. I haven`t read LOTR for three or four years. Time to refresh my memory, methinks.

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Old 07-11-2000, 05:22 AM   #3
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Yeah this one is pretty darned hard. I did terribly on this one too. I'm going to have to make something a bit easer for the masses.

There is a Bilbo quiz coming out soon that hopefully isn't too tough (I haven't read it yet, but it looked easier than this one at a cursory glance).

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Old 07-12-2000, 01:26 PM   #4
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I got a 50%. One of the questions can have more than on answer. The one about why Gollum led Sam and Frodo to Shelob. While him wantig the Ring is good, he wouldn't have done it if Sam wasn't so mean. Tolkien said so himself.

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Burrahobbit,
I'm sorry to have made a question that couldn't be legitimately answered. I researched them carefully and brooded over them at some length to avoid this very problem. While I am sure that Gollum hated Sam, I can't place the passage you allude to where JRRT explicitly says that Gollum tried to have Shelob kill the hobbits so as to punish Sam. All the passages I can find show that the Ring is his overmastering motive. In fact, Gollum seeks to settle his score with Sam directly, by attacking him. Please tell me what I missed. It seems to me that he could have revenged himself on Sam or escaped his captive service easily without resort to Shelob. I understand that Gollum needed Shelob to kill Frodo so that he could get the ring without breaking his promise.
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Old 07-12-2000, 06:04 PM   #6
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Tolkien says it in Letters. but I don't know which one as I don't own the book. (btw, is Letters canon?)

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The Letters are not canon and should not be cited as the source for quiz questions or answers unless it is specified that the Letters are being used (which they shouldn't <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b"> )

Unless someone strongly disagrees (and we have a long discussion on the board that convinces us all otherwise) the quizes should come from The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, and The Silmarillion.

Anything else must be specified and cited (in answers, too).

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Ok, nevermind <img src=frown.gif ALT="">

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Old 07-12-2000, 11:24 PM   #9
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I am greatly dishonoured to say I only scored 30% on this quiz. Ron, you weren't wrong when you said it would be tough! I did try it without the books, and even though I have recently read Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit, I still did terribly.
Some of the questions had really tackful answers. Take the question: Why did Gollum betray Frodo and Sam to Shelob&quot;. Instead of the answer just being 'The Ring', it was 'the rags and bones left over', because the ring was in the clothes.

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Please tell me. I'm beside myself. What is tackful?

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Old 07-13-2000, 12:48 AM   #11
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Alright! But I meant it -- even if the quiz was maybe a bit hard.

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I still just want to know what tackful means. Seriously.

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I think he meant 'tactful', alluding to the purposeful trickiness of of the questions. But maybe he just mean they were really sharp <img src=smile.gif ALT="">

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Old 07-13-2000, 11:42 PM   #14
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Stop bickering, you two (By the way, how do you add those little faces to your replies? If I knew how to do it, I'd put a 'tongue' face here now.)! If it'll help, I meant that the questions had INTELLIGENTLY worked out answers. I should have been 'tactful', not 'tackful'.


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No bickering here. Galpsi asked a question and I suggested an answer. No problem.

As for the little faces, those are emoticons....you can get a full list of them and how to create them by clicking http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish...emoticons.htmlhere</a>.

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Old 07-17-2000, 12:52 AM   #16
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Sorry, Wraith of Angmar, but it did sound to me like Galpsi was whinging on <img src=frown.gif ALT=""> .

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I tried it quickly without the books and got 50% <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b">

I have to say this quiz is very clever. I love the question about the inns <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> (to tell you the truth I couldn't remember the name of the inn in Frogmorton, but I knew the names of the other three and was able to narrow it down to that one)

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Now I don't know what &quot;whinging&quot; is.

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I'm not gonna say a word....<img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b">

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Alternative words for 'Whinging': Whining, Nagging, Whittling, Arguing. 'Whining' is the closest to Whinging.
Now let us end this barmy talk <img src=mad.gif ALT=">:"> .

(Just to let you know and to stop any further 'Whinges' to this reply, 'Barmy' could also mean Mad, Senseless, Weird, or Pointless.)

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Wind Lord to be certain! At least barmy is in my dictionary, as well as my acquaintance. I thought it reasonable, when decried in public, to be able to understand the nature of the charges. [emoticon of your choice]

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My Turn.
Why did you say '' Windlord to be Certain?'' I don't understand.

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I thought you were gratuitously piling on words to make your point. Where I come from we call that kind of speech windy. It is, thereby, a play on your selected title and was intended sarcastically.

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And where, pray tell, do you come from?

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Oh no. I was simply adding more words to increase the chances of one of them being in your vocabulary. And where, pray tell, do you come from?

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I don't think that the way you are going about this is to your advantage. You might have better accused me of pedantry. The accusations of whining, of weak diction, and of general folly weren't your best case.
To answer your question, I grew up in an unsophisticated town of several hundred in rural North Carolina, where I was taught to consult the Oxford English Dictionary when confronted with obscure usage. Neither it nor I have entries for tackful or for whinging. Barmy I am all too well acquainted with.

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&quot;Tackful&quot; was a typing error. It should have been &quot;Tactful&quot;, remember? And sorry if I offended you. Let's just forget about it all, okay <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> ? I am becoming somewhat vexed by this whole affair.

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I'm so forgetful that I'm not even sure what you're talking about.

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I don't know who's turn it is here so I'm closing this thread.

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