Do the books reuin the movies? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Caradhras · 06-30-2002, 08:32 PM

Hey ~
I wanna read the books, everyone says there great. But truely I like movies betta than books so.. I was wondering if I read the books are they going to spoil the movie? Okay well, Laters~!

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 06-30-2002, 08:34 PM

reuin? READ THE BOOK! IF YOU LIKE THE MOVIE< READ THE BOOK! READ IT! IT WILL NOT SPOIL THE MOVIE! READ THE BOOK!

Caradhras · 06-30-2002, 08:48 PM

Hey ~
Okay I will I get the picture ! Laters~!

Child of the 7th Age · 07-01-2002, 12:09 AM

There are a lot of little things in the movie which you are not going to understand unless you've read the book. PJ snuck them in for us die hard fans. In fact there are even some things in the first movie that you can't understand without also having read the Hobbit.

So reading the book is going to help you appreciate the movie more, not less.

The movie is really good, but the book is great!

sharon, the 7th age hobbit

Orofacion of the Vanyar · 07-01-2002, 12:17 AM

Well to answer your question, yes, if you read the books then you will pretty much know what will happen in the next two films.

Movies are excellent... for visual entertainment. But the books are far better in just about every way conceivable, as they have more... well, "umph" in them then the movies ever could. Reading Boromir's death gave me more goose bumps then the PJ's version did, same with Gandalf's fall into the abyss. Tolkien was the man, PJ can only hope to scrape the surface, enough said.

Bramblerose Gamgee-Took · 07-01-2002, 02:33 AM

I felt a bit like you when I read them. I like the movie, and so my mother bought the books for me. At the start, I found them rather dull, and only plan to read the rest of the first one because I felt guilty. The more I got into the book, the more I enjoyed them. by the end of the first book, I was captured.
So, try reading into them more [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

07-01-2002, 06:20 AM

Read the books, then read them again. Then read the Sil, then read that again a few times. Then get hopless addicted and desperate for any bit of tolkien you can find. Worked for me. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

***The Barrow-Wight*** · 07-01-2002, 06:23 AM

Movies are definitely 'easier' than books, and certainly quicker, but they are nowhere near as complete. The books will not only not ruin the movie, they will enhance them 1000 times. Grab the book. Read it slowly and savor it. Then come back and tell us how it felt (you don't actually have to leave us altogether, of course, but read that book!(and many others)).

Nevfeniel · 07-01-2002, 06:59 AM

Movies ALWAYS leave something out, it's like a rule or something between directors. If you read the books, then you won't miss out on anything.

Niphredil Baggins · 07-01-2002, 07:31 AM

Newfeniel, movies leave something out, because, contrary to popular belief, a single picture may contain more information than a thousand words, but never a thousand chosen, artfully written words... If PJ had put all the information into the movies, we would have... maybe ten three-hour movies. Or more.

Nevfeniel · 07-01-2002, 07:33 AM

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we would have... maybe ten three-hour movies. Or more.

What's wrong with that? Hehe, j/k. It would be murder if there were 10 movies, esp. if PJ released them a year in between. Now, three ten-hour movies. . .

Nufaciel · 07-01-2002, 09:39 AM

lol! Yes, definitely read the book! It's great, and will enhance it, not ruin it.

Lush · 07-01-2002, 11:07 AM

Do read the book, but beware of words over three syllables long. Those can be a doozy. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
Seriously, reading Tolkien is a great experience. The beginning of the LOTR is a bit slow, so I recommend reading the first few chapters in a setting where the book is your only available entertainment (as in, I started reading it for the first time in a huge line at the DMV). If you appreciate magic and wonder, you'll be hooked before you know it. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

The Silver-shod Muse · 07-01-2002, 12:30 PM

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a single picture may contain more information than a thousand words, but never a thousand chosen, artfully written words...

I agree Niphredil! Words, while little more than lines of black squiggles on paper, are capable of incredibly powerful feats.

A picture may speak a thousand words, but a thousand words speak a thousand pictures. Everyone has their own experiences and personal ideas that words move to fit. Ex. "beautiful"

Nevfeniel · 07-03-2002, 05:44 PM

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Hey ~
I wanna read the books, everyone says there great. But truely I like movies betta than books

Wait a second. . . how can you like the movies better than the books if you haven't even read the books? I'm confused. . . [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

NazgulNumber10 · 07-03-2002, 05:48 PM

if anything, movies ruin books

Caradhras · 07-03-2002, 05:52 PM

Hey~
Okay I think that I am going to start reading the books tonight! And of course I'm going to start with the first book and then move on from there. Well, I have to go do some stuff for tomorrows barbeque! Laters~!

Maédhros · 07-03-2002, 05:59 PM

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Movies are excellent... for visual entertainment. But the books are far better in just about every way conceivable, as they have more... well, "umph" in them then the movies ever could. Reading Boromir's death gave me more goose bumps then the PJ's version did, same with Gandalf's fall into the abyss. Tolkien was the man, PJ can only hope to scrape the surface, enough said.

Excellently put. PJ work is a mere shadow of the world of JRRT.

Anorien · 07-03-2002, 08:25 PM

Ya know? I think that it's safe to say that the books are always better than the movie. And personally i thought that the movie spoiled the book in this case! I mean, the movie was great! But, if you think that the movie was good, READ THE BOOK!!!!!! Because it is a million times better! Plus, you'll get to meet Tom Bombadil. He's the goofiest guy! Did you know he was named after Tolkien's daughter's doll? Lol! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Nevfeniel · 07-03-2002, 08:39 PM

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I think that it's safe to say that the books are always better than the movie

Actually, that's not true. A Beautiful Mind was a really dry book (according to my mom) and the movie was apparently much better.

Tigerlily Gamgee · 07-03-2002, 09:05 PM

<font color=gold>On the contrary (to the title), the exact opposite happened to me.
The first time I saw the movie all I could think was "that was long" BUT I obviously found it interesting enough to read the books. I think I was thrown away by the fact that I didn't understand a lot of it. As I read the books I went back to see it again and again & each time I saw something new that PJ had thrown in there. I gained a greater appreciation for the movie because I saw all of the work that went into it.
I love LOTR more for the books now. I always tell people to read them now.

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if you read the books then you will pretty much know what will happen in the next two films.

<font color=gold>This doesn't bother me. Infact, I am anticipating the next two movies more now than I would've if I hadn't read the books. Now I can see how my visions compare to PJ's. I am sooo excited!

Lindolirian · 07-03-2002, 09:16 PM

The movies are good, but they hardly do justice to the amazing literary work of Tolkien, to which this site is dedicated to. The movies are merely the latest big things to happen in the LotR world. The books definatly are much better.

Caradhras · 07-06-2002, 10:24 PM

Hey ~
How did you change the color of your font I have been dieing to do that!!! This greenish color is driving me crazy!!!! Please if you don't mind, let me in on you little secret!!!!!!!!!!!!! Laters~!

Caradhras · 07-08-2002, 07:49 PM

pleasE!!!!!!!!!! I wanna know how to change colors!!!!! I'll do anything!! Please!!! Laters~!

Susan Delgado · 07-09-2002, 03:28 AM

Definitely read the book [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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I think that it's safe to say that the books are always better than the movie

This was also not true of Forrest Gump. The movie was good, but the book was crass, crude, and Forrest really wasn't a very nice guy.

Eol · 07-11-2002, 04:06 PM

Concerning the books and the movie, I did not care for the movie. I enjoy reading detail and creating my ideas of what everything would look like without the D and D inspired designs.

Two things that remain in my head that was the best done: the hobbits and the manuver of Legolas with the Orcs, the arrow in the eyes move, something Curly and Moe would be proud of. And the choice of scenery,beautiful

Rose Cotton · 07-11-2002, 10:05 PM

Even if these guys have already convinced you I'm going to just add a bit more encouragement.

Everyday people go to the movies and see a great movie. "The best one they've ever seen." That is until they go see another movie and decide it's the best.

But if you were to read the book behind the movie it gives a whole new meaning to what happens on screen. It means MORE! You will know the REAL story and know the REAL charicters as they were ment to be. And if you were to not read the books you could miss or missinturpret the one of the best parts of the story. And if you find that you like these books you may branch off into other wonderful books. There's an entire world full of them. New ones every day.

And you have to stick to the books. Tolkien's writing stile can become teadious for some but if you endure the hard parts great things will come of it.

As for them ruining the movie they will instead promote your exightment in the movie. No matter how many times you could have read about Gandalf falling into the abys you will still grieve for him. Suprises still come.

So what r u reading this post for??!! You should be buried in a book! Get to it!!LOL!

Elendur · 07-11-2002, 10:30 PM

I think that reading the books is a much better experience than watching the movies. But they are two different kinds of entertainment all together, so you can't compare them.

I think the best things about the books is that you will never know everything. You can read Tolkiens stuff for years and years and still learn new stuff all the time and talk about things in the books. I know, without a doubt, that I will still be posting here in 5 or 10 or 15 years. As long as there is good company and good intellectual discussions going on this will be a great site forever. You couldn't say that if we could only talk about the movies.

Aragost · 07-12-2002, 07:42 AM

you should read the books there are a lot of things that PJ left out. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Caradhras · 07-12-2002, 05:39 PM

Hey~
Why do movies have to leave things out I mean sure somethings but why can't they put like everything in??????? Laters~!

[ July 12, 2002: Message edited by: Caradhras ]

Susan Delgado · 07-13-2002, 07:47 PM

Because then every single book-inspired movie would be six or seven hours long. Would you want to spend six or seven hours at one time in a movie theater? I didn't think so.

06-30-2002, 08:32 PM	#1
Caradhras Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: the moon Posts: 55	Do the books reuin the movies? Hey ~ I wanna read the books, everyone says there great. But truely I like movies betta than books so.. I was wondering if I read the books are they going to spoil the movie? Okay well, Laters~! __________________ There is only one true reason for living... ME!!!!!!!!! http://www.uniquehardware.co.uk/serv...tz/grommit.gif http://216.40.201.38/otn/animals/bl_paw.gif

06-30-2002, 08:34 PM	#2
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	reuin? READ THE BOOK! IF YOU LIKE THE MOVIE< READ THE BOOK! READ IT! IT WILL NOT SPOIL THE MOVIE! READ THE BOOK! __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

06-30-2002, 08:48 PM	#3
Caradhras Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: the moon Posts: 55	Hey ~ Okay I will I get the picture ! Laters~! __________________ There is only one true reason for living... ME!!!!!!!!! http://www.uniquehardware.co.uk/serv...tz/grommit.gif http://216.40.201.38/otn/animals/bl_paw.gif

07-01-2002, 12:09 AM	#4
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	There are a lot of little things in the movie which you are not going to understand unless you've read the book. PJ snuck them in for us die hard fans. In fact there are even some things in the first movie that you can't understand without also having read the Hobbit. So reading the book is going to help you appreciate the movie more, not less. The movie is really good, but the book is great! sharon, the 7th age hobbit __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

07-01-2002, 06:23 AM	#8
*The Barrow-Wight* Night In Wight Satin Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,043	Movies are definitely 'easier' than books, and certainly quicker, but they are nowhere near as complete. The books will not only not ruin the movie, they will enhance them 1000 times. Grab the book. Read it slowly and savor it. Then come back and tell us how it felt (you don't actually have to leave us altogether, of course, but read that book!(and many others)). __________________ The Barrow-Wight

07-01-2002, 12:17 AM	#5
Orofacion of the Vanyar Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Clayton, NC Posts: 102	Well to answer your question, yes, if you read the books then you will pretty much know what will happen in the next two films. Movies are excellent... for visual entertainment. But the books are far better in just about every way conceivable, as they have more... well, "umph" in them then the movies ever could. Reading Boromir's death gave me more goose bumps then the PJ's version did, same with Gandalf's fall into the abyss. Tolkien was the man, PJ can only hope to scrape the surface, enough said.

07-01-2002, 02:33 AM	#6
Bramblerose Gamgee-Took Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bywater Posts: 67	I felt a bit like you when I read them. I like the movie, and so my mother bought the books for me. At the start, I found them rather dull, and only plan to read the rest of the first one because I felt guilty. The more I got into the book, the more I enjoyed them. by the end of the first book, I was captured. So, try reading into them more [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

07-01-2002, 06:20 AM	#7
Tar-Haydon Guest Posts: n/a	Read the books, then read them again. Then read the Sil, then read that again a few times. Then get hopless addicted and desperate for any bit of tolkien you can find. Worked for me. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

07-01-2002, 06:59 AM	#9
Nevfeniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mithlond Posts: 783	Movies ALWAYS leave something out, it's like a rule or something between directors. If you read the books, then you won't miss out on anything. __________________ Consider the purr a variety of audible tranquilizer. [. . .] For a few of us, there is one more purr, a secret purr. When we combine our secret purrs, we produce the Purr of Power. And that is simply the amplified amity we feel as furred and purred beings.

07-01-2002, 07:31 AM	#10
Niphredil Baggins Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 118	Newfeniel, movies leave something out, because, contrary to popular belief, a single picture may contain more information than a thousand words, but never a thousand chosen, artfully written words... If PJ had put all the information into the movies, we would have... maybe ten three-hour movies. Or more. __________________ Wistful, willful, wingless, fly!

07-01-2002, 09:39 AM	#12
Nufaciel Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 133	lol! Yes, definitely read the book! It's great, and will enhance it, not ruin it. __________________ Member of Pervy Elf Fanciers Anonymous...I need professional help.

07-01-2002, 11:07 AM	#13
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	Do read the book, but beware of words over three syllables long. Those can be a doozy. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Seriously, reading Tolkien is a great experience. The beginning of the LOTR is a bit slow, so I recommend reading the first few chapters in a setting where the book is your only available entertainment (as in, I started reading it for the first time in a huge line at the DMV). If you appreciate magic and wonder, you'll be hooked before you know it. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

07-03-2002, 05:48 PM	#16
NazgulNumber10 Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 116	if anything, movies ruin books __________________ http://squee.netdrain.com/images/hnb/hnb10.jpg

07-03-2002, 05:52 PM	#17
Caradhras Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: the moon Posts: 55	Hey~ Okay I think that I am going to start reading the books tonight! And of course I'm going to start with the first book and then move on from there. Well, I have to go do some stuff for tomorrows barbeque! Laters~! __________________ There is only one true reason for living... ME!!!!!!!!! http://www.uniquehardware.co.uk/serv...tz/grommit.gif http://216.40.201.38/otn/animals/bl_paw.gif

07-03-2002, 08:25 PM	#19
Anorien Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Old Navy of Rohan Posts: 138	Ya know? I think that it's safe to say that the books are always better than the movie. And personally i thought that the movie spoiled the book in this case! I mean, the movie was great! But, if you think that the movie was good, READ THE BOOK!!!!!! Because it is a million times better! Plus, you'll get to meet Tom Bombadil. He's the goofiest guy! Did you know he was named after Tolkien's daughter's doll? Lol! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ FRODO: all low and retarded Oh Mr. Frodo, do you have any more food? Here eat mine, I’m so fat. How about I carry the ring for you. It’s soooo pretty, I mean heavy! SAM: Why you little-! FRODO: You asked for it!

07-03-2002, 09:16 PM	#22
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	The movies are good, but they hardly do justice to the amazing literary work of Tolkien, to which this site is dedicated to. The movies are merely the latest big things to happen in the LotR world. The books definatly are much better. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

07-06-2002, 10:24 PM	#23
Caradhras Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: the moon Posts: 55	Hey ~ How did you change the color of your font I have been dieing to do that!!! This greenish color is driving me crazy!!!! Please if you don't mind, let me in on you little secret!!!!!!!!!!!!! Laters~! __________________ There is only one true reason for living... ME!!!!!!!!! http://www.uniquehardware.co.uk/serv...tz/grommit.gif http://216.40.201.38/otn/animals/bl_paw.gif

07-08-2002, 07:49 PM	#24
Caradhras Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: the moon Posts: 55	pleasE!!!!!!!!!! I wanna know how to change colors!!!!! I'll do anything!! Please!!! Laters~! __________________ There is only one true reason for living... ME!!!!!!!!! http://www.uniquehardware.co.uk/serv...tz/grommit.gif http://216.40.201.38/otn/animals/bl_paw.gif

07-11-2002, 04:06 PM	#26
Eol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Pacific Northwest - Tir Nan Og Posts: 306	Concerning the books and the movie, I did not care for the movie. I enjoy reading detail and creating my ideas of what everything would look like without the D and D inspired designs. Two things that remain in my head that was the best done: the hobbits and the manuver of Legolas with the Orcs, the arrow in the eyes move, something Curly and Moe would be proud of. And the choice of scenery,beautiful __________________ Mes sana in corpec sano- (lt.) A sound mind in a sound body

07-11-2002, 10:05 PM	#27
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	Even if these guys have already convinced you I'm going to just add a bit more encouragement. Everyday people go to the movies and see a great movie. "The best one they've ever seen." That is until they go see another movie and decide it's the best. But if you were to read the book behind the movie it gives a whole new meaning to what happens on screen. It means MORE! You will know the REAL story and know the REAL charicters as they were ment to be. And if you were to not read the books you could miss or missinturpret the one of the best parts of the story. And if you find that you like these books you may branch off into other wonderful books. There's an entire world full of them. New ones every day. And you have to stick to the books. Tolkien's writing stile can become teadious for some but if you endure the hard parts great things will come of it. As for them ruining the movie they will instead promote your exightment in the movie. No matter how many times you could have read about Gandalf falling into the abys you will still grieve for him. Suprises still come. So what r u reading this post for??!! You should be buried in a book! Get to it!!LOL! __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

07-11-2002, 10:30 PM	#28
Elendur Wight Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Arnor Posts: 200	I think that reading the books is a much better experience than watching the movies. But they are two different kinds of entertainment all together, so you can't compare them. I think the best things about the books is that you will never know everything. You can read Tolkiens stuff for years and years and still learn new stuff all the time and talk about things in the books. I know, without a doubt, that I will still be posting here in 5 or 10 or 15 years. As long as there is good company and good intellectual discussions going on this will be a great site forever. You couldn't say that if we could only talk about the movies. __________________ Son of Isildur.

07-12-2002, 07:42 AM	#29
Aragost Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Arthedain Posts: 137	you should read the books there are a lot of things that PJ left out. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Where there's a whip there's a will

07-12-2002, 05:39 PM	#30
Caradhras Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: the moon Posts: 55	Hey~ Why do movies have to leave things out I mean sure somethings but why can't they put like everything in??????? Laters~! [ July 12, 2002: Message edited by: Caradhras ] __________________ There is only one true reason for living... ME!!!!!!!!! http://www.uniquehardware.co.uk/serv...tz/grommit.gif http://216.40.201.38/otn/animals/bl_paw.gif

07-13-2002, 07:47 PM	#31
Susan Delgado The Perished Flame Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: behind my eyes Posts: 1,096	Because then every single book-inspired movie would be six or seven hours long. Would you want to spend six or seven hours at one time in a movie theater? I didn't think so. __________________ "Man as a whole, Man pitted against the universe, have we seen him at all 'til we see that he is like a hero in a fairy tale?"