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Old 08-16-2009, 03:37 PM   #1441
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El - Maeglin - Erendil - Elrond - Sam (or Frodo) - Shagrat ?
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Old 08-16-2009, 04:39 PM   #1442
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El - Maeglin - Erendil - Elrond - Sam (or Frodo) - Shagrat ?
The one I had was: El Aredhel Fingon - Gil-Galad Sauron - Shagrat , but yours certainly works.

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Old 08-17-2009, 04:04 PM   #1443
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Thanks! I tried to avoid using Sauron.
Now what about
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:51 PM   #1444
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Thanks! I tried to avoid using Sauron.
Now what about
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Would that be 1st or 3rd Age Glorfindel? Or are they considered the same elf for this thread?
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:14 PM   #1445
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Glorfindel of Rivendell, the 3rd Age guy. The solution I'm thinking of doesn't depend on him being 1st Age Glorfindel reincarnated, if that's what you thought.
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:26 PM   #1446
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Are we allowed to count the nine Nazgul as one person?
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:41 PM   #1447
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Are we allowed to count the nine Nazgul as one person?
Now that would be easy, wouldn't it? Try to pick one of them - and not 'Whichever of the Nine was in Bree at the time'. I want a name.
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:46 PM   #1448
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Barliman Butterbur->Bill Fenry->Witch King->Glorfindel
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:10 PM   #1449
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Almost what I thought of (indeed one degree shorter than mine). I'll accept it as correct (and bonus points for elegance) if you can give me a quote that proves Bill Ferny met the Witch King himself in person. Otherwise you need one more person to link them (not necessarily one whose name we know, but someone who can be identified by, let's say, three words).
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I am guessing this other person is Squint-eyed Southerner. I cannot provide you with a quote that says Bill met the Witch King in person.
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:46 PM   #1451
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Yes, it's the Squint-eyed Southerner. For bonus again (and since you said you were guessing) - as the Witch King himself apparently (from Gandalf's report at the Council of Elrond) wasn't involved in the attack at the Prancing Pony, where are we told that he and the SqS had met before?
Anyway, correct answer is Barliman - Bill Ferny - Squint-eyed Southerner - Witch King - Glorfindel, so take the thread!
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:34 PM   #1452
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I thought of one.

Ungoliant->Elrond
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Ungoliant- Melkor - Lthien - Erwen - Galadriel - Elrond

(the only one I'm not sure of is the Lthien-Erwen connection. They were cousins, but I can't recall an actual passage in which they met. It wouldn't surprise me if I were missing some simpler solution to this puzzle)
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Old 08-18-2009, 05:01 AM   #1454
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How about Ungoliant - Morgoth - Maedros - Elrond?
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Skip, the thread is yours. That one works and it is I think the shortest one possible.
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:24 PM   #1456
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Alrighty.

How about Ulmo -> Erendis ?
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Ulmo > Oss > Crdan > [Gil-Galad] > Tar-Aldarion > Erendis

I am not entirely sure, but I suspect that it may be possible to remove Gil-Galad and still make the connection.
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I am not entirely sure, but I suspect that it may be possible to remove Gil-Galad and still make the connection.
Can't you go straight from Ulmo to Cirdan? Anyway, I believe you have it so I'm not going to try another version.
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Can't you go straight from Ulmo to Cirdan?
I believe you're right, Enwe. Anyway, the thread is yours Saucepan Man. Give us a challenge!
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Quite possibly, but I wasn't certain, so took the surer route.

OK, so let's try this one:

Carcharoth > The Watcher in the Water
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Are we barred from using certain characters (like Sauron) in this one?
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Old 10-10-2009, 04:56 AM   #1463
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Are we barred from using certain characters (like Sauron) in this one?
I tend to hold with the original poster's suggestion:

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And I guess that applies to Eru too ...

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Carcaroth - Beren - Melian - Galadriel - Frodo - The Watcher
Spot on skip. That's what I have, although I was wondering whether Beren and Melian might simply be replaced with Luthien.

Anyway, the thread is yours.
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Yeah I suppose Luthien knew Galadriel well but since no meeting is mentioned I took the certain path.

Let's see then... How about

Mardil the Faithful -> Thranduil
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Mardil > Ernur > Witch King > any of the hobbits in The Fellowship > Legolas > Thranduil
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Not the connection I had but that works just fine too. For bonus points, find an even shorter path!

It's quite hard coming up with a difficult one I think, as everyone knowns just about anyone with a 6 degree separation. Maybe it would be more challenging if we only allow a three character connection, like A -> 1 - 2 - 3 -> B?

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Not the connection I had but that works just fine too. For bonus points, find an even shorter path!

It's quite hard coming up with a difficult one I think, as everyone knowns just about anyone with a 6 degree separation. Maybe it would be more challenging if we only allow a three character connection, like A -> 1 - 2 - 3 -> B?

Take it, Andsigil!
I'll hold off pending a shorter route by another player. If nobody finds it, I'll put up something tomorrow. I'm interested to see what it would be, after having given it some thought, myself, and come up short.

I like your idea of shorter separation degrees. Maybe we can specify how many moves each time we pose a puzzle?
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I like your idea of shorter separation degrees. Maybe we can specify how many moves each time we pose a puzzle?
Exactly. I think that's what people have been doing for some time already. Sometimes you are fine with 6, but very often people said "try to make it in..."
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Yeah, that's a good idea. A clue to mine, there is one character that can replace both the Witch-King and the Hobbit
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Would the missing link be Glorfindel?
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Yep, that's what I had in mind!
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How about if I take a slightly different route in this game while keeping faithful to its origins....

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Bravo!

I was going to go the route of J.R.R. Tolkien -> Christopher Lee -> (myraid of actors), but yours works just fine.

I'm so glad somebody solved that one. Your turn.
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Sorry every one that I thought of is easy...
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Radagast--eagles--battle of on the fields of Kormallen(near Morannon)--mouth of Sauron
or Radagast--eagles--Bilbo--mithril chainmail--M. of S.
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Morsul hasn't been around for a while, but the third one obviously works, and must be the shortest way possible, so you'd better go anyway, Galadriel55.

(Note for the future: as far as I know, all links have to be people, so you can't have anything like "chainmail" or "a battlefield".)
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Maedhros --> Elrond --> Thorin --> Dain Ironfoot/Nain (either) --> Dain I --> Thror

As for the earlier rules clarifications, I believe also that we were supposed to avoid using Gandalf and Sauron.

I can't remember if Elrond applies, too. If he does, then my answer is invalid (assuming I otherwise had the right answer) and the puzzle can remain open.
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