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Gwaihir the Windlord · 06-17-2003, 06:50 PM

Hmm, so I take it Avathar isn't the answer? This is a fairly tough one to crack....

Mordor was never evacuated or deserted like the others were, but then Avathar was never exactly populated in the first place.

Was it that Mordor was not on the water? Unless you count Nurnen of course, but that wasn't a landlocked lake and slightly different.

[ June 17, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

Gil-Galad · 06-18-2003, 03:47 PM

i thought this wasn't really hard, if you reread the Silmarillion about how Feanor was still in the Undying Lands, then you will know the anwser (now that i have expalined it)

Gwaihir the Windlord · 06-19-2003, 02:09 AM

Lol, it is in fact quite a hard one you've given us.

Mordor, Avathar, Sirion, Lorien... could it perhaps be that no relative of Feanor ever went to Avathar, if that's the kind of thing you're getting at (no time to fetch the Sil right now I'm afraid =])?

Gil-Galad · 06-19-2003, 11:19 AM

tahts not right anwser but should i just give the anwser and any one can go?

Gil-Galad · 06-21-2003, 01:06 PM

well? shall i just reveal the anwser or will you keep guessing? i've almost ran out of clues

Gwaihir the Windlord · 06-22-2003, 12:44 AM

Errr well I was going to say something about shadows but I don't think that's on the right track either... perhaps Lorien (in Valinor) was the only place that an Elf died naturally in (Miriel)? Seems like a long shot... Well go on then, give us the answer. I don't think we're getting anyway with this bilogue of ours.

Gil-Galad · 06-22-2003, 11:07 AM

FINALLY GWAIHIR!!!!!!!! THAT WAS THE ANWSER!!!!!!!! IN LORIEN (WHICH MEANS DREAM) WAS THE ONLY PLACE AN ELF DIED NATURALLY!!!!!!!GOOD WORK AND ABOUT TIME!!!!!!!

Gwaihir the Windlord · 06-23-2003, 02:40 AM

Really? But surely no Elf died, naturally or otherwise, at all in Avathar. Rather an ill-fitting question wasn't it? =\

Well ok, I'll give the next one anyway (which by the way should be terribly easy):
- Fangorn
- Edoras
- Erebor
- Bag-End

Gil-Galad · 06-23-2003, 11:35 AM

fanghorn was the only one not to be reconguered
(Edoras- Dundenlings)
(Erebor- Smaug)
(BAg-End- Saruman)

Lindolirian · 06-23-2003, 09:12 PM

Terribly easy you say? Then I shall give a terribly obvious answer. Bag-End is the only one situated on the Eastern side of the Hithaeglir. It also is the only one that does not have a River Running through it.

EDIT: To avoid onfusion, I just wanted to clarify that the capitalization was toemphasize on my pun of "river running through" and "the River Running".

[ June 23, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

Gwaihir the Windlord · 06-24-2003, 02:29 AM

Hmmm, well perhaps not THAT easy I suppose =]... both decent answers, but neither the one I was looking for. Three or four more and I might give you a Clue.

That was a pathetic pun by the way.

Lindolirian · 06-24-2003, 09:10 AM

Quote:

That was a pathetic pun by the way.

Thank you, I need the encouragement. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-24-2003, 11:07 AM

I will say Erebor, on the basis that Meriadoc Brandybuck visited them all except Erebor.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 06-25-2003, 01:48 AM

Close, Saucepan, but not quite.

Actually this probably isn't going to be easy at all. In fact it may be quite hard. Sorry if I have deluded any of you with falsehoods of easiness... anyway there's a clue at least, that it's to do with Hobbits.

[ June 25, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

Gwaihir the Windlord · 06-30-2003, 02:00 AM

No-one else want to try?

Saucepan was on the right track.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-02-2003, 12:54 AM

(Sigh) If no one wants to have a guess, then I'll be obliged to tell the answer to keep the thread going. No takers?

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-03-2003, 12:53 AM

Hmm when you make four posts in a row something's wrong... the answer was Fangorn, because a Ringbearer never slept there. Slightly obscure perhaps... anyway, anyone who wants to take the next question can go ahead. Maybe I'll have another try at answering that.

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-03-2003, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Slightly obscure perhaps ...

Slight understatement perhaps ... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Gwaihir, don't assume from the fact that there have been no posts that people are not puzzling over your question. It is quite right that people should avoid posting idle speculation or comments on Quiz threads and that they should post only when they think that they might have an answer. In any event, I for one had been racking my brains trying to think of who went to each location and who didn't. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

And (within reason) there is no requirement that you close off the question while your last post goes unanswered.

But anyway, good question. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] And, since my answer was "on the right track", I will take the liberty of posting the next (which I suspect will be somewhat easier):

Barad-Dur
Cirith Ungol
Minas Morgul
Orthanc

Gil-Galad · 07-03-2003, 08:07 AM

Cirith Ungo lwas teh smallest establishment or Barad-dur wasn't/was really important that much to the WOTR
(Orthanc- atatcked Rohan)
(Minas Morgul- attacked Gondor)
(Cirith Ungol- posioned Frodo)

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-03-2003, 06:15 PM

Nope. Neither of those is the answer that I am looking for.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-04-2003, 12:52 AM

Could either be Barad-dur, because it was the only tower not built by the Numenoreans, or perhaps Orthanc as it was never directly controlled by Sauron.

**The Saucepan Man** · 07-04-2003, 06:14 PM

Your first answer is the correct one, Gwaihir. The Towers at Cirith Ungol, Minas Morgul and Orthanc were all built by Numenorians, whereas Barad-Dur was of course raised by Sauron.

Please continue. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-05-2003, 02:36 AM

Thanks. Perhaps this one will be more popular, although I'm afraid hard questions are a bit of a bad habit of mine. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Faramir
Arvedui
Boromir
Aragorn

Please though, don't keep me in the dark about it this time.

alquadae · 07-05-2003, 06:21 AM

Arvedui is fron the "Northen line"

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-05-2003, 08:41 AM

Ah, sorry, this is odd place out isn't it... I'm getting terribly absent minded these days. Anyway, forget about that please *ahem* here's the true list.

Amon Anwar
Taniquetil
Meneltarma
Amon Dîn

alquadae · 07-05-2003, 11:10 AM

Taniquetil is the only "watchtower" not used by mortals.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-06-2003, 03:08 AM

You got it in one, alquadae *dead chuffed* [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. You may proceed.

(By the way, your answer to my first bungled question about rulers was incorrect... Aragorn was Northern too)

alquadae · 07-06-2003, 01:37 PM

formen
kemen
hyarmen
romen
numen

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-07-2003, 02:59 AM

Clever question... Kemen. It is the only one not found in the place-names of Numenor.

alquadae · 07-07-2003, 03:35 AM

If you please,M'lord,a little more.Your on the right path.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-08-2003, 03:02 AM

More? Hmm I'm not sure how to go about continuing on this track. Could I have a hint please? To be really useful, you might tell me whether you're talking about Numenor or not. =/

Lindolirian · 07-08-2003, 02:48 PM

Formen is North
Hyarmen is South
Romen is East
Numen is West

Kemen is not a direction.

alquadae · 07-08-2003, 03:06 PM

You have my compass
Please carry on

Lindolirian · 07-24-2003, 03:37 PM

Combe
Staddle
Archet

Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-29-2003, 03:00 AM

Staddle was the only one inhabited by Hobbits, as well as Men.

Lindolirian · 07-30-2003, 09:05 PM

It's more of a geographic difference than a demographic.

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 07-31-2003, 04:20 PM

Combe was the only one of the three that was in a valley?

Lindolirian · 07-31-2003, 08:51 PM

Not quite.

Gwaihir the Windlord · 08-01-2003, 01:07 AM

Staddle the only one on a hill?

Meneltarmacil · 08-02-2003, 01:13 AM

Archet the only place in a forest or not on Bree-hill?

06-18-2003, 03:47 PM	#2
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,733	i thought this wasn't really hard, if you reread the Silmarillion about how Feanor was still in the Undying Lands, then you will know the anwser (now that i have expalined it) __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

06-19-2003, 11:19 AM	#4
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,733	tahts not right anwser but should i just give the anwser and any one can go? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

06-21-2003, 01:06 PM	#5
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,733	well? shall i just reveal the anwser or will you keep guessing? i've almost ran out of clues __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

06-22-2003, 11:07 AM	#7
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,733	FINALLY GWAIHIR!!!!!!!! THAT WAS THE ANWSER!!!!!!!! IN LORIEN (WHICH MEANS DREAM) WAS THE ONLY PLACE AN ELF DIED NATURALLY!!!!!!!GOOD WORK AND ABOUT TIME!!!!!!! __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

06-23-2003, 11:35 AM	#9
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,733	fanghorn was the only one not to be reconguered (Edoras- Dundenlings) (Erebor- Smaug) (BAg-End- Saruman) __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

06-17-2003, 06:50 PM	#1
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Hmm, so I take it Avathar isn't the answer? This is a fairly tough one to crack.... Mordor was never evacuated or deserted like the others were, but then Avathar was never exactly populated in the first place. Was it that Mordor was not on the water? Unless you count Nurnen of course, but that wasn't a landlocked lake and slightly different. [ June 17, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

06-19-2003, 02:09 AM	#3
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Lol, it is in fact quite a hard one you've given us. Mordor, Avathar, Sirion, Lorien... could it perhaps be that no relative of Feanor ever went to Avathar, if that's the kind of thing you're getting at (no time to fetch the Sil right now I'm afraid =])?

06-22-2003, 12:44 AM	#6
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Errr well I was going to say something about shadows but I don't think that's on the right track either... perhaps Lorien (in Valinor) was the only place that an Elf died naturally in (Miriel)? Seems like a long shot... Well go on then, give us the answer. I don't think we're getting anyway with this bilogue of ours.

06-23-2003, 02:40 AM	#8
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Really? But surely no Elf died, naturally or otherwise, at all in Avathar. Rather an ill-fitting question wasn't it? =\ Well ok, I'll give the next one anyway (which by the way should be terribly easy): - Fangorn - Edoras - Erebor - Bag-End

06-23-2003, 09:12 PM	#10
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Terribly easy you say? Then I shall give a terribly obvious answer. Bag-End is the only one situated on the Eastern side of the Hithaeglir. It also is the only one that does not have a River Running through it. EDIT: To avoid onfusion, I just wanted to clarify that the capitalization was toemphasize on my pun of "river running through" and "the River Running". [ June 23, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

06-24-2003, 02:29 AM	#11
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Hmmm, well perhaps not THAT easy I suppose =]... both decent answers, but neither the one I was looking for. Three or four more and I might give you a Clue. That was a pathetic pun by the way.

06-24-2003, 11:07 AM	#13
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I will say Erebor, on the basis that Meriadoc Brandybuck visited them all except Erebor. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

06-25-2003, 01:48 AM	#14
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Close, Saucepan, but not quite. Actually this probably isn't going to be easy at all. In fact it may be quite hard. Sorry if I have deluded any of you with falsehoods of easiness... anyway there's a clue at least, that it's to do with Hobbits. [ June 25, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

06-30-2003, 02:00 AM	#15
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	No-one else want to try? Saucepan was on the right track.

07-02-2003, 12:54 AM	#16
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	(Sigh) If no one wants to have a guess, then I'll be obliged to tell the answer to keep the thread going. No takers?

07-03-2003, 12:53 AM	#17
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Hmm when you make four posts in a row something's wrong... the answer was Fangorn, because a Ringbearer never slept there. Slightly obscure perhaps... anyway, anyone who wants to take the next question can go ahead. Maybe I'll have another try at answering that.

07-03-2003, 08:07 AM	#19
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,733	Cirith Ungo lwas teh smallest establishment or Barad-dur wasn't/was really important that much to the WOTR (Orthanc- atatcked Rohan) (Minas Morgul- attacked Gondor) (Cirith Ungol- posioned Frodo) __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

07-03-2003, 06:15 PM	#20
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nope. Neither of those is the answer that I am looking for. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

07-04-2003, 12:52 AM	#21
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Could either be Barad-dur, because it was the only tower not built by the Numenoreans, or perhaps Orthanc as it was never directly controlled by Sauron.

07-04-2003, 06:14 PM	#22
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Your first answer is the correct one, Gwaihir. The Towers at Cirith Ungol, Minas Morgul and Orthanc were all built by Numenorians, whereas Barad-Dur was of course raised by Sauron. Please continue. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

07-05-2003, 02:36 AM	#23
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Thanks. Perhaps this one will be more popular, although I'm afraid hard questions are a bit of a bad habit of mine. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Faramir Arvedui Boromir Aragorn Please though, don't keep me in the dark about it this time.

07-05-2003, 06:21 AM	#24
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	Arvedui is fron the "Northen line" __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

07-05-2003, 08:41 AM	#25
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Ah, sorry, this is odd place out isn't it... I'm getting terribly absent minded these days. Anyway, forget about that please ahem here's the true list. Amon Anwar Taniquetil Meneltarma Amon Dîn

07-05-2003, 11:10 AM	#26
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	Taniquetil is the only "watchtower" not used by mortals. __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

07-06-2003, 03:08 AM	#27
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	You got it in one, alquadae dead chuffed [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. You may proceed. (By the way, your answer to my first bungled question about rulers was incorrect... Aragorn was Northern too)

07-06-2003, 01:37 PM	#28
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	formen kemen hyarmen romen numen __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

07-07-2003, 02:59 AM	#29
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Clever question... Kemen. It is the only one not found in the place-names of Numenor.

07-07-2003, 03:35 AM	#30
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	If you please,M'lord,a little more.Your on the right path. __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

07-08-2003, 03:02 AM	#31
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	More? Hmm I'm not sure how to go about continuing on this track. Could I have a hint please? To be really useful, you might tell me whether you're talking about Numenor or not. =/

07-08-2003, 02:48 PM	#32
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Formen is North Hyarmen is South Romen is East Numen is West Kemen is not a direction. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

07-08-2003, 03:06 PM	#33
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	You have my compass Please carry on __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

07-24-2003, 03:37 PM	#34
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Combe Staddle Archet __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

07-29-2003, 03:00 AM	#35
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Staddle was the only one inhabited by Hobbits, as well as Men.

07-30-2003, 09:05 PM	#36
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	It's more of a geographic difference than a demographic. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

07-31-2003, 04:20 PM	#37
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	Combe was the only one of the three that was in a valley? __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.