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04-09-2007, 11:21 AM
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No, no, the killing part was also true, but it referred to something else. The Rohirric-family part is the most difficult about it, obviously, but this is ultimately what lead me to forming the question.
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05-04-2007, 03:01 PM
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Maybe that their sons killed Orc chieftains whose heads were separated from their bodies
I believe Golfmbul's head fell down a rabbit hole, while Azog's and Ugluk's were set on stakes.
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05-04-2007, 04:17 PM
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Seems you heeded my advice
Good, good. The killing of Orc leaders was sufficient. Now it's your turn, so I hope you'll present something interesting and brain-racking, so that I have things to do for late nights!
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05-05-2007, 04:34 AM
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Now this one is really an interesting one:
What do Faramir, Sam and Frodo have in common? 
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05-05-2007, 05:45 AM
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I don't know, being in Henneth Annun? I suppose it's something that really no one else has, right?
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05-05-2007, 08:43 AM
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No...btw, the correct list is
Faramir, Frodo, Sam and men of the White Mountains
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05-05-2007, 08:58 AM
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And Beregond not? (just checking one thing that popped up in my mind)
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05-05-2007, 09:14 AM
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no
But please mention that thing; it might be it is what I had in mind, but that I overlooked Beregon (though I doubt it). That way we could avoid making this a very long thread.
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05-05-2007, 09:35 AM
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I thought that it might have had something to do with being given mercy, or a certain privilege, by the King, and hereditable, at best. But I guess that's off track...
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05-05-2007, 10:24 AM
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No, since others such as Hama had suffered the same fate
This thing is, as far as we know, only reserved to them.
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05-05-2007, 10:28 AM
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I suppose you mean Faramir as the brother of Boromir and son of Denethor, that one Frodo&Sam met in Henneth Annun, right? Just for confirmation.
EDIT: And, to not make the thread too long - by the "Men of the White Mountains", you mean all Men of the White Mountains, or just the Dead of Dunharrow? (and/or their ascendants?)
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05-06-2007, 08:05 AM
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Their mothers are dead.
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05-07-2007, 10:25 AM
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No, since there are many more whose mothers are dead
As I said, this is only restricted to them as far as I know.
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05-08-2007, 11:36 AM
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They weren't at The Black Gates.
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05-08-2007, 11:38 AM
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Just like Thranduil, Celeborn, Ghan-buri-ghan and many others.
As I said, this thing is, as far as I know, ONLY restricted to them.
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05-09-2007, 07:26 AM
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The Staves made of Lebethron.
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05-09-2007, 07:52 AM
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Quote:
 I thought about several things, had the Men of the White Mountains not been there... Could it be that they understood Aragorn was King before he was officially made the King? I think not, but I really can't make anything better 
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05-09-2007, 08:01 AM
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'I have no fitting gifts to give you at our parting,' said Faramir; but take these staves. They may be of service to those who walk or climb in the wild. The men of the White Mountains use them...........
I don't know if anyone else uses them but it is a link.
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05-09-2007, 09:27 AM
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narfforc is correct
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05-19-2007, 09:58 AM
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Okay, ten days are gone...
So does anyone else have a good one?...I don't
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05-28-2007, 07:16 AM
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What do Fram and Thingol have in common?
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05-28-2007, 11:03 AM
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Being killed by Dwarves because of some issue with a necklace?
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05-29-2007, 05:02 AM
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yes
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05-29-2007, 02:30 PM
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What do the Gondorian stewards of Isengard and Galadriel have in common?
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05-29-2007, 03:05 PM
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Maybe that they ruled over people of a different folk then their own.
Galadriel was one of the Noldor, ruling over Silvan Elves. The chieftains of Isengard were Gondorians ruling over people with mixed blood, partly Dunlending.
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05-29-2007, 03:07 PM
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Hmm, hmm, sure, but for example Thranduil also did that... try to focus another direction.
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07-25-2007, 12:50 PM
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Well the chieftains were left in charge after the lords of Gondor left that area, just as Galadriel came to Lothlorien after Amroth disappeared.
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07-25-2007, 01:54 PM
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That's not much good answer. The Stewards were appointed by Gondor, and were still the same folk. No, no, I had something different in mind.
Try to think about Rohirrim (in both cases).
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07-25-2007, 01:56 PM
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Ah...maybe that the Rohirrim lived close to Lorien in earlier times, and later close to the chieftains of Isengard?
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07-26-2007, 09:22 AM
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Quote:
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07-30-2007, 06:04 AM
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Maybe that they helped the Rohirrim.
The chieftains by keeping watch over the northwest of Rohan and by keeping any evil Dunlanders out (at least for a while) and Galadriel by providing Eorl and his host with a protective cloud of mist so they could pass unseen near Dol Guldur.
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07-30-2007, 01:51 PM
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Well, that was quite short-term. And the protection was not much... both Lórien and Isengard cared mainly for themselves. Try to look from another point of view...
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09-03-2007, 03:30 PM
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Well, I won't give up..yet
I suppose they both had for a certain period the Dunlanders as neighbours...
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09-04-2007, 06:24 AM
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No, no....
Okay, let's repeat it... Isengarders and Galadriel (personally)... what do they have in common... and think from the point of view of the Rohirrim. Now THAT was the biggest hint I could ever give...
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09-27-2007, 10:36 AM
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omg, I can't believe it's been almost 4 months since you first asked this...lol
Anyway...new idea...they suspected them of witchcraft and dark magic I only now had the idea the answer might not be in LotR, but UT and so it was...I guess.
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09-27-2007, 10:44 AM
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Yup, that's it, being accused of witchcraft. Take over, please.
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09-29-2007, 07:07 AM
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What do Treebeard and the Witch-king have in common?
(could well be they have more then just this, but what I'm looking for is quite obscure) Oh, and a good hint: the answer is to be fund in Tolkien's works
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09-29-2007, 10:57 AM
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What about that they spoke with Saruman?
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Well, you're almost there.
I was hoping it would take you longer. 
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09-29-2007, 11:53 AM
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Then that they were both charmed by his voice to leave Saruman alone for the moment.
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