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Old 09-08-2015, 05:29 AM   #121
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After preforming the comparison between our Valaquenta-text and that of LQ1/2 and Sil77. I found out that Arvegil145 was reffering to a passages in what will become Of the Begining of Time, when he said that we have to change the 7 great once.

Well that makes think easier. I think at this point the narative we will simply delet the passages and I have incooperated that change into my draft.

About Of the coming of the Elves: well, as said before, making a draft is easy but does not prove that it will be found incooperatable by the group. I am not going to produce my draft here right now. This is clearly the wrong place and it is the wrong time as I am already spend to much time on the other activities here. The chapter is a wild mixture of text from very diffrent sources. I had to changes tens often in MT passages, but I was never forced to rewrite a sentence. But I did not use these passages as solid block.

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Old 09-10-2015, 09:50 AM   #122
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I am asking because I did not. I DID want to include it, and I thought it pitiable that it was excluded from my version - however, as much as I wanted, I could not find a way to incorporate it without resorting to a heavy rewording - basically, when I was finished revising it, I realized there were more words and sentences coming from me than from Tolkien - hence, I excluded it. I know this thread isn't exactly the best place to debate Of the Coming of the Elves but I am very curious about your version - maybe it could still be salvaged.
I agree with you, at last there must be very much rewording, so it's better not to include it.

As for the Aratar and Yavanna and Varda I had the "correct" status in my project (eight and not sisters), but we have to retake the chapters to make common texts, it's a very hard work.

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Old 09-10-2015, 01:55 PM   #123
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I agree with you, at last there must be very much rewording, so it's better not to include it.

As for the Aratar and Yavanna and Varda I had the "correct" status in my project (eight and not sisters), but we have to retake the chapters to make common texts, it's a very hard work.

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Greetings to you as well, gondowe!

I am of opinion that certain essays found in the Myths Transformed should be included in Volume III of TftE, but I will try again, nonetheless, to incorporate the alternative version of The War for the Sake of the Elves.

Also, I will post an outline for the second and third volume of TftE as soon as I am available.
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Old 09-10-2015, 02:13 PM   #124
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I could say that everything, every text, that, in my opinion could be used, was used by me. But inserted in the corpus of the First Age volume. Except that Of Aman ( that is time undefinible), I dont remember now any text usable in the third volume.

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Old 09-10-2015, 06:04 PM   #125
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I will try again, nonetheless, to incorporate the alternative version of The War for the Sake of the Elves.
Doing this would nearly forsure generate a lot of unneccessary work of comparision once we come to discuss that chapter. If you are really that much interrested in that particular chapter we can take it as the next item to work on and I can put forward my draft here as soon as I find some time (probabaly in the Long run of next week).

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Old 09-12-2015, 08:56 AM   #126
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Also, have you included Morw and Nurw in The Coming of the Elves?
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Yes, I included Morw and Nurw, so I think this will need discussuion once we reach that point.

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