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Old 01-07-2009, 02:10 PM   #241
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Night 2

Remaining
Sally, soprano
Lariren , soprano, Ithilien
Feanor of the Peredhil, Belfalas (mezzo-)soprano
Ilya, mezzo-soprano, vales of Anduin.
Brinniel, mezzo-soprano, Harad
Kath contralto
Aganzir, Minas Tirith contralto
Gwathagor (Gwathagorio), lyric tenor/spinto Sindar of Eriador
Shastanis Althreduin (tenor leggierio / lyric tenor)
The Phantom (typically versatile and with great range)
Strongbow, Bowissimo of Lossarnach
Macalaure (Barney Broadbottle), a Bree-lander from Staddle, Baritone
Gollum the Great - bass-baritone
TGWBS - bass, woodwose,
Boromir 88 basso profundo, Rohan
Cailineomer, trouser role, Forodwaith

You're not singing anymore:


Meneltarmacil - baritone err Nazgul from Minal Morgul ORDO
Nogrod - lyric tenor in the end, Old Forest ORDO

Critics will now receive Walter's intelligence and can start plotting.

Soulmates stop talking.

Singer-seer, Critics and Plinge picks ASAP - I would like to get this back on track if poss for a 6pm start tomorrow.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:18 PM   #242
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Music of the Night (reprise).

After the solemn departure of Menel and Nogrod the other singers retired to their dressing rooms, most to sleep -(one perchance to dream!), one went aspying and three went a plotting. The cloaked and masked Critics at last decided who their victim should be this night and went to their victim's dressing room.

It's occupant was not sleeping but sang a plangent and appropriate aria:

Pastorello d'un povero armento,
pur dorme contento,
sotto l'ombra d'un faggio o d'alloro.
Io, d'un teatro monarca fastoso,
non trovo riposo,
sotto l'ombra di porpora e d'oro
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The beauty of his voice did not stop the critics from making their barbed attacks but to their suprise their jibes did not have the desired effect. The door opened to reveal the Phantom.

"Fools, do you think you can hurt me? Do you think you can make me leave here?"

"What do you mean" demanded the Critics as they pursued him down the stairs and passages of the opera house while making futile and snide comments about his tessitura. He did not respond until he reached the banks of the underground river - a grotto really created by the sea in a chasm of the rock on which Dol Amroth was built. He stepped in to a small boat and cast off.

"Do you mean you are the divo?" , cried the critics.

"You need to ask? You knew I was the Phantom of the Opera! Yes I was a divo but I am not THE Divo. I am the Opera Ghost ."

"Err what does that mean exactly" asked one of the confused critics.

"It means you can't get rid of me, only disenfranchise me" he replied " I won't be able to vote but I am not going anywhere".
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:21 PM   #243
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Awwww.... did someone want to get rid of me?

Heh heh heh.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:22 PM   #244
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Day two begins.

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Lariren , soprano, Ithilien
Feanor of the Peredhil, Belfalas (mezzo-)soprano
Ilya, mezzo-soprano, vales of Anduin.
Brinniel, mezzo-soprano, Harad
Kath contralto
Aganzir, Minas Tirith contralto
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Shastanis Althreduin (tenor leggierio / lyric tenor)
Strongbow, Bowissimo of Lossarnach
Macalaure (Barney Broadbottle), a Bree-lander from Staddle, Baritone
Gollum the Great - bass-baritone
TGWBS - bass, woodwose,
Boromir 88 basso profundo, Rohan
Cailineomer, trouser role, Forodwaith

You're not singing anymore:


Meneltarmacil - baritone err Nazgul from Minal Morgul ORDO
Nogrod - lyric tenor in the end, Old Forest ORDO

You're not voting anymore.

The Phantom (Opera Ghost) Err that was the suprise I mentioned. Oh come on you knew I wouldn't want to be parted...

Soulmates may now PM
Critics stop talking.


Deadline ....well I am late again so I will give you till 6.15 by Downs time tomorrow.

Note Phantom may not vote and does not count in the ordo v critic tally. We just have the pleasure of his company.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:23 PM   #245
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That's got to be the best thing I've seen happen ever haha
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That's got to be the best thing I've seen happen ever haha
Expect the best when Mith is the Queen.
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Ho-Ho-Ho! Wild Man have Deep Laugh!

Although one less innocent, still we can hear theory from phantom! This good, for phantom wise. Like have extra diva/o, singer for all to rally around!

This good new make up for last night double-lynch, think Wild Man.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:29 PM   #248
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Does that usually happen? Not that I'm complaining because the phantom is fun to play with(so I've heard and enjoyed for one day) but has this happened before? Its awesome though. Extra help and such.
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So is the phantom now permanently alive?

Oh, I had another question...

Bah, I have to go to class. And I'm teaching it, so I legit have to go.

I'll be back ish5.
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Brilliant.

And it only works because it's true.
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To think just how quickly we would have lost your voice, I would suspect the Queen would have been quite cross - may have even mod fired the critic who sent in the choice.

Who would want to kill the phantom? I suspect this list will be quite long, but it will give us a good place to start.

Edit: Crossed with bunches

Nope Lariren, this is a twist we haven't seen before.
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Now many question to ponder. Look at vote record. Look at why vote Nogrod. Look at why critic want kill phantom.

Before Wild Man ponder these question, Wild Man have some other.

Fea/Phantom. Please explain post 152 and onward discussion, now Noggie, alas, dead.

Shasta - Wild Man expect explanation for why vote him!
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Permanently alive? I wouldn't phrase it like that.

I am permanently not a part of the singing competition. You have all intruded upon my world of music.

But that does not mean I cannot single out individuals and help them, or thwart them, depending on how honorable I feel their intentions are.
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No he is the Opera Ghost.... see the note to the day start. He can talk and amuse himself but that is all. Really to amuse the moddess. And it is unorthodox but hey ....

I did say there would be a suprise and it has come early. He may effect the dynamics of the game but it won't effect the mechanics. In the head count the ordos are one down.
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At his time, I wish to back the voices of TGWBS, Lari, Gollum, and Gwath. Do not eliminate them today.

The first has performed better than any thus far. The second is new to this world, and her interest should not be discouraged. The third voice is new to me, and I wish for time to evaluate it. The fourth is on a whim.
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May I ask miss moddess, I remember a long long time ago, in one of Kuru's thread mentioning a "ghost" in WW. Please tell me that's where you got your inspiration?
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Oh and Lariren, as far as my strange reference yesterday, it's a book/made into a movie thing. I think Fea caught it, but I'm not sure, the offer is still up for anyone. I would be really impressed if someone knew the book a/o movie.
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Fea/Phantom. Please explain post 152 and onward discussion, now Noggie, alas, dead.
Yes sir.

I believe Fea was asking if I had noticed that Nog had called himself a Divo. I did, and I tried to encourage the idea later ("He'll show you lot how to sing").

The rest of it, though Fea will have to confirm this, involved comments I made hinting I was one of the lovers. Or at least that is what I guessed.

And indeed, I was attempting to hint that I was a Lover. That was my primary attempt to aid you against the Critics- get them to flush a kill on me and spare the Seer and the true Lovers.
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Caileom: Nog
Mac: Menel
Nog: sally
Gwath: Nog (Nog-2, Menel 1, sally 1)
Shasta: tgwbs
tgwbs: Fea
Lari: Ilya
Menel: Mac
Fea: Menel (Nog-2, Menel-2, sally-1, tgwbs-1, Fea-1, Ilya-1, Mac-1)
Brinn: Nog (Nog-3, Menel-2, sally-1, tgwbs-1, Fea-1, Ilya-1, Mac-1)
Kath: Ilya (Nog-3, Menel-2, sally-1, tgwbs-1, Fea-1, Ilya-2, Mac-1)
Sally: Nog (Nog-4, Menel-2, sally-1, tgwbs-1, Fea-1, Ilya-2, Mac-1)
Ilya: Strongbow (Nog-4, Menel-2, sally-1, tgwbs-1, Fea-1, Ilya-2, Mac-1 Strongbow 1)
Phantom: Menel (Nog-4, Menel-3, sally-1, tgwbs-1, Fea-1, Ilya-2, Mac-1, Strongbow 1)
Boro: -Mac, +Menel (Nog-4, Menel-4, sally-1, tgwbs-1, Fea-1, Ilya-2, Strongbow 1)
Aganzir: Nog (Nog-5, Menel-4, sally-1, tgwbs-1, Fea-1, Ilya-2, Strongbow 1)
TGWBS: -Fea, +Menel (Nog-5, Menel-5, sally-1, tgwbs-1, Ilya-2, Strongbow 1)

Not count
[Sally: -Nog, + Menel]

No vote
Strongbow, Gollum

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It's been a while since of I've done one of these so, here goes.

Record Labeled
Menel - Mac
Nog - Sally
Opera Ghost - Menel

The Public Radio
Sally - First Nog, then Menel
Wild Man - First Fea, then Nog
Boro - First Mac, then Menel
Agan - Nog
Lariren - Ilya
Fea - Menel
Ilya - Bowie
Shasta - Wild Man
Brinn - Nog
Calieomer - Nog
Mac - Menel
Gwath - Nog
Kath - Ilya

Free On Itunes
Bowie (did not vote)
Gollum (did not vote)

EDIT: Aw, tgwbs beat me to it. And he has more numbers. Ah well.
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Ha ha ha! Oh golly, that is too funny. The Phantom of the Opera - now I see why you were in character all day yesterDay, tp.
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Random thought, I'm curious about the case against Nogrod, seemed to form out of mid-air, after questions were raised about sally. I don't know if this was an early attempt to save critic-sally, but there were lots of unjustified attached "suspicions" that grew around Nogrod.
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I'm wondering how many caught Nog's Divo comment. And then his joking confirmation to Agan.

You'd think Ordos would be very concerned about gunning for him after that.

The people who would see it and gun for him anyway- the Critics, Walter, and the true Divo.
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Oh, I forgot to ask.

TGWBS- when you cast your vote at the end, am I correct in thinking that you did not see Agan's vote until after you posted?
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Yeah, Boro, I was confused about that as well.

When I was going back through the thread, the first one I noticed to mention Nog as guilty was Agan, who said:
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I don't know - there's just something I don't like. His question/accusation against Gwath was rather bad. Besides I think it was phrased rather like an accusation, and later he accused Gwath of taking it too seriously. Also I don't like his 'double lynch on day 1 would be riskier for the critics than innocents' logic.
Then Lariren picked it up and said,
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That's actually a very good point. It would be like the guilty party to want to try to kill more than one innocent on the first day. Now I shall have to rethink my voting(though I haven't actually voted yet).
I'm gonna keep running through the thread but this is what I got so far.
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Phantom - cunning ploy! Well done.

Boro/Phantom - Wild Man agree. Must analyse Nogrod-vote. It suspicious to me. Wild Man perhaps will do after Wild Dinner.

Wild Man presume Nogrod jest when Nogrod say he divo. Presume other do also. However, Wild Man feel case against Nogrod was poor.

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May I ask tp, if I have your plan right. I thought when you questioned about the "decision" on the Divo that you were up to something. At that time, I didn't know, and then your actions at the end and when you specifically asked me about my thoughts about Nogrod, and said you wanted to give Nog a chance of explaining, it became a little clearer. Long story short, did you know that if you were killed we'd lose you in the count, and thus you wanted to get targeted early, since earlier would be better than later in the show?

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Quotes are serviceable substitute for wit.

Post 143 - Opera Ghost (I smile every time I type that):
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Fea, Nogrod, Mac, and Boro are all up to something. Of course that doesn't mean we should lynch them. They might even be Ordos purposefully looking like they're up to something in order to draw a Night-kill. But then again, perhaps one of them is the deadly Cobbler. And one is a Critic.
Post 144 - Shasta:
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*still reading, but thinking of voting for Nogrod based on what he's read so far*
Post 148 - Gwath:
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Currently suspicious of:
Nogrod, for his really contrived case against me. I'm not going to vote him just yet because of what happened last time we tangled.
Post 152 - Fea:
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Try not to take this the wrong way, village. I want to test a theory.

Hey phantom, did you spot that thing in that post of Nog's that I spotted?
Post 155 - Fea:
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About the obscure question- the phantom said something (not actually about Nogrod), and I'm curious to see if I was catching something or if I was making it all up.
I assume the Fea/Opera Ghost exchange was about TP's Lovers ploy?

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Old 01-08-2009, 01:14 PM   #269
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TGWBS- when you cast your vote at the end, am I correct in thinking that you did not see Agan's vote until after you posted?
Indeed. Wild Man think only Menel die.

However, Wild Man incline think this good overall. Not hurt village too much in early stage. Much more helpful when examine vote record. Also, face it, people find reason lynch Nogrod eventually whatever happen.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:16 PM   #270
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Overall, I wanted to be a target. Early or late. But I figured to ensure that I was made a target, I ought to try to be one right out of the gate. Since the whole point of being the Opera Ghost is to die and return, I thought it would be robbing Mith of her fun and me of my purpose if I played anything other than recklessly.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:22 PM   #271
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Oh, and the Lover ploy- I had no choice but to be slightly less bold than I wished. After I set out my bait (I said something like "Is anyone here named Christine?" or something like that), Sally was the one who bit on it, and thus became my pretend Lover.

But naturally I was aware that it was possible that Sally was a Critic. And so if I had treated her as if she was for certain my Lover, it would be obvious to the Critics that I was bluffing (if Sally was one of them, that is). So to take care of that possibility, I hinted to Fea that what she had spotted was at least half right. In other words, I was certainly a Lover, but Sally may not actually be my partner.

That way if Sally turned out to be a Critic, I would still possibly look like a Lover.

I did the same to Mac after he showed he had reason to trust me. I assumed he had spotted the Lover thing, but warned him that, though he was right about me, he may have something slightly wrong.
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Of these I'd probably vote Nog. I don't have that many options anyway, I've been too lazy/tired to do anything productive today.
Post 177 - Menel:
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So just what is this thing with Nogrod, anyhow? I don't think everyone but Fea and the phantom should be kept out of the loop on this.
Post 180 - Lariren:
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Though from the looks of it I should be considering Nog.
Post 190 - Brinn:
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I don't feel like spreading out the votes anymore...among those already on the tally, I'd consider Nog, Sally, or Mac.
Post 192 - Sally:
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Hmmmm....Nog seems to be a bit off to me. But I've never been terribly good at reading the fellow, and I'm afraid that if I voted him it would be just because he voted for me. At the same time, he was rubbing me as a bit off before he voted me, so I may fall either way.
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So of all his 'suspects' (or lack thereof), he votes Mac because Mac suspects him? I lied. Menel does look a bit fishy now. I mean, I may not be happy that people suspect me, but them suspecting me doesn't necessarily make them guilty. Seems much more like a self-preservation tactic than anything else.

I suppose my first three choices are Menel, Nog, and Mac, semi in that order.
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And...I don't get where the Nogrod thing came up because I haven't had time to read page 4. So, I'm gonna try and do that.
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I think Nog needs to be given the chance to help us. He will read carefully and analyze and accuse and by the time Day 3 comes I imagine he'll have a good idea about what's going on. Don't kill him.
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Nog - not sure if he was actually suspicious of Gwath when he mentioned him but whatever the case it came across as quite pointed. Alright I do understand why he gets annoyed with people who aren't around much during the Day and I am a terrible offender for that, so for a Day 1 lynch vote I understand where he's coming from. However, given that Mith is our mod I don't believe she'd make a non-participant a wolf. Then mentions that even those with high post counts can actually be saying nothing. Thinks Bowie quite suspicious for the Cobbler remark. Votes sally - so switched quite dramatically from his original 'will vote for a quiet person' idea. Not keen on the inconsistency but he did produce good reasoning for his suspicions.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:32 PM   #273
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I'm wondering how many caught Nog's Divo comment.
I noticed it, but I really didn't give it a second thought. I assumed he was joking.
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Overall, I wanted to be a target.~tp
Really? I would never have guessed.

I think that would fit the MO of critics who are familiar with the traps. I attempted to help you become one in that way, talking about "raining down greek fire" and tempting the critics by my wanting to see if they had the nerve to do what they couldn't last time, and that is get rid of you early. Are the critics than ones who are familiar with the ploys and this time did "pull the trigger" early so to say?

Because I'm trying to think of who would want to get rid of you this early - I mean you probably don't need me to tell you this - as much as we all complain of your annoyance and arrogance, we secretly love it.
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Man, this stuff is making my eyes hurt. Begin Page 6.

Post 201 - Brinn:
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Noggie gives more substance, but I find of what he does say, I tend to disagree with more. Of all the candidates so far, he's the one who gives me the biggest wolfish vibe. A feeling is not much, but it's all I can really offer. I don't have time to give it more thought, and I wouldn't mind at all seeing him lynched.

++Nogrod
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I do not intend to post only once a day this game. I mentioned in the admin thread that my first day or two would be full, and werewolf (as much as I would like it to be so) is not at the top of my priority list. My thought on Strongbow is nothing more than a nebulous idea. (I still haven't read the whole game)
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And I'm still waiting to hear what you found regarding Nogrod, Fea, as are all of us. If you found something suspicious, I think everyone deserves to hear it.
Post 206 - Boro:
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Who said what was surmised about Nogrod, between them, was something suspicious?
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Boro- what do you think about all these Nog votes? I'm extremely surprised.

Do you think that tomorrow we should probably vote for someone who voted for him? Especially if he ends up lynched?
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I do hate a double lynch. Lesser (or greater, in this case, I hope) of two evils must prevail, because if we're wrong about one person we can handle that but if we're wrong about two people that could be....erm, well, bad, obviously.

Thus....

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Wild Man not like Noggie-votes. Nogrod always like this, no? As Nogrod useful, Wild Man exhort you: vote Fea-Menel-Mac.
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Depends upon if this turns out how I think it will, I will say I don't want Nog lynched today. Don't forget about retractables.
Post 221 - Agan:
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On the one hand I wouldn't want to vote Mac because it's so long since he last played, but on the other hand he's a bit more suspicious than Nog... Garr I can't decide. I don't want to vote either of them.
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I can't shake the feeling, though, and it's not fair to Gollum, who did post more than once a day, or Nog or Menel who're on my radar because other people put them there.
Post 225 - Sally:
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Forgot to say that Menel's last post makes me feel a tad better about him, which is why I tipped the scale toward Noggie. Besides, I'd like to see more from Menel before I/we kill him.
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Heck

++Nog
Post 232 - Opera Ghost:
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Okay, yes, Nog might be the Cobbler. But so might I. And on Day 1? Lynch? What a risk.
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I'm fine with either one, frankly, and there's no way I want a double.

Ack! Rush!

--Noggie

++Menel
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:46 PM   #276
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Goin' back to Page 3.

Post 94 - Mac:
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Nogrod - feels innocent, which is alarming.
Post 107 - Brinn:
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Nogrod : Already starting to go at it with Gwath. Typical. About the whole double lynch thing...I think at this point it's more likely we would end up lynching two innocents than any critics.
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It is also clear that I shall win this competition. Great range is all well and good, but being two-gendered is well… operatic! Still, best eliminate:

++NOGROD

Because the extent of his indecisiveness could lead to problems later on.
Post 113 - Wild Man:
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Nogrod - Accuse Gwath on poor grounds. But Wild Man feel this just to make discussion. Wild Man inclide to think Nogrod innocent.
Post 116 - Fea:
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Nogrod - Whether evil or not, he tends to provide a voice of reason (except when he's a desperate wolf and his voice of reason starts to seriously lack any semblance of said reason).
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So it seems that Boro and tp are at it again. Or at least they're giving out the impression they are at it again. Jolly good. I'd leave them to try and survive a few Nights first eg. I'm not willing to lynch either of them at least without some very serious arguments.

As well I'd be keen to see all those returning to the game for some time in at least a few Days with the same reservations: a believable case makes me chnge my mind.

Blah, I need to vote in about an hour so I'll jump back and see if there's anything that could help.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:56 PM   #277
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Yeesh... once I have to vote early and believe that you auditioners are smart enough to not do something terribly foolish, and then that.

*shakes head*

The phantom is immortal now and we have to end...*ahem* be enriched by him til the end? Oh... joy...


I have to apologise to Menel. Had I had more time and would have read your later responses to my vote, I would have retracted. You sounded very innocent there. Sorry.


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I don't like his vote for Menel. Looks like an easy way out to slide by the day.
Could you explain what you mean by "easy way out"?


Yesterday's voting:

Cailineomer's vote for Nogrod, while somewhat suspicious taken by itself, is probably not a critical one. Why would a critic want to get into trouble with one of the more persuading singers when there was not even an indication then that said singer will be eliminated? It would have been a move that could easily have backfired.
Gwath's vote for Nogrod and Fea's vote for Menel don't smell nice. Both are pushing a bandwaggon.
Brinniel's vote for Nogrod I don't like either. She pushes the bandwaggon with very little reason. Then again, a critic would have known that a Day1-lynching of Nogrod would have attracted interest, so would a critic not rather not have positioned herself in such a spot in a bandwaggon? Hmm..
What to do with Sally's vote? Of course every critic would love to see Nogrod lynched so early, but so much that they would risk their own neck for it by putting a vote in such a prominent space? Hardly. Her retraction looks innocent.
Boro's retraction for Menel is to save Nogrod, of course, but considering that he voted me before mostly because I voted Menel, it's a bit eyebrow-raising. Since obviously he was not happy about either choice, why didn't he at least try to bring up a third option?
Aganzir's vote for Nogrod is consequent - she suspected him for a long time. Not suspicious, unless her suspicions before were fabricated.
Wild man's vote for Menel is not suspicious either. He stated he liked to save Nogrod before.
I'll have a look at the other votes later if I think it might enlighten something.

An analysis of the attempted killing of the phantom would be interesting, but I'm sure tp can do that better than I. I'll leave that burden to him.

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This good new make up for last night double-lynch, think Wild Man.
Is it? While we still have tp's input, we are still down one in numbers and innocent votes. Painting situation better than situation is be suspicious behaviour, wild man.

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I did the same to Mac after he showed he had reason to trust me. I assumed he had spotted the Lover thing, but warned him that, though he was right about me, he may have something slightly wrong.
It was something completely different. Some of your points on the roles seemed so off to me that I thought you were an innocent trying to confuse the critics.
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I, ah, might skip entirely recapping Page 1, at least for now. Data < Lunch. Begin Page 2.

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Says who? I mean the "actually playing" part... Are we now a bit too eager to show up our qualities as a decent player who has as his goal the elimination of the critics so that everyone could sing as bad as they wished? Have you Gwath started actually playing and what is your game?

Nice manouvres Fea! I did enjoy them. But then again that's the very same with everyone and everytime. The trick is to know when it's option b) rather than option a). And yes, one can get mad trying to come to a fair consideration about these...
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"Says who?"
Why, Napoleon, of course, in his Art of Werewolf (Maxim 13, if you're curious).

I said it. If the purpose of a particular post is to perplex upon inspection, I don't see the point in trying to analyze it. Why give the poster that satisfaction? This is my opinion.

"Are we now a bit too eager to show up our qualities as a decent player who has as his goal the elimination of the critics so that everyone could sing as bad as they wished?"
An ironic question, and one which does not follow very closely from the post in view. Nogrod attempts to make himself look good by accusing me of trying to make myself look good. Nice try.

"Have you Gwath started actually playing and what is your game?"
If I had a "game" (I suppose you mean "strategy"), I certainly wouldn't tell you about it.
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"Talk of triple-lynching can be risky, even as a joke. Thankfully, we wraiths lack a sense of humor."
Making the point that a triple lynch (anyway we only can make a double-lynch) might be risky... hmmm... to whom at this point? For the critics themselves I think... one lynch and we probably end up with a fine and innocent singer toDay; a double lynch... the odds to bring down a critic get better... or at least the critics should have more to fear at this early hour if that option is open.

Anyway: confessedly lacking a sense of humour? A well known trait of music-critics over the whole wide world. Artists have fun, critics are grumpy, everyone knows that.

"An ironic question, and one which does not follow very closely from the post in view. Nogrod attempts to make himself look good by accusing me of trying to make myself look good. Nice try."
Accusing? Aren't we a wee bit touchy now?
*not an accusation, a question...*
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The two are by no means mutually exclusive. A question can be used to state one's opinion quite as easily as any other form of sentence, and your question had distinct accusatory overtones. Whether or not I was being touchy is a matter of perspective, however, and you can't please everyone.
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You have totally misunderstood that ruling dear contralto. It is of course that we divo's need to protect our voice a half an hour before going to bed and so she has made that ruling to protect my voice but at the same time letting me off the hook from indecent questionnaires as to why I'm voting that early throughout the game...
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Nog is apparently the divo.
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Nice list Aganzir. I agree with it at this moment 100%.
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"Nog is apparently the divo."
Yes, I was going to accuse him of much the same.
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Nogrod- He will help me catch the Critics.
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Sorry guys. I thought I was helping to prevent a double lynch. However I'm not entirely displeased with what has happened thus far (at least the phantom thing was rather funny), besides I would probably have continued to suspect Nog today anyway. However I have a harder time trying to see why Menel was killed. Apparently to save Nog from the gallows yes, but why was he so suspicious in the first place?

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I don't know if this was an early attempt to save critic-sally, but there were lots of unjustified attached "suspicions" that grew around Nogrod.
Don't know about that. I think his points against sally were not good. What's the sense in accusing someone of something they always do, at least this early?

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I'm wondering how many caught Nog's Divo comment. And then his joking confirmation to Agan.
I did but it was a thing I didn't take very seriously. Divo-Nog could say it, innocent Nog could say it, critic-Nog could say it.

I've noticed Lari's eagerness to agree on suspicions but I wouldn't lynch her because of it (at least yet) because she's new.

I'm getting more scared of Mac every time he posts. There's something that reminds me awfully much of the Mac-wolf I've seen.
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Yeesh... once I have to vote early and believe that you auditioners are smart enough to not do something terribly foolish, and then that.

*shakes head*
The above comment reminds me of his I-told-you attitude (as in Other Minds and Hands, erm, almost two years ago when Boro I think almost got lynched all of a sudden - I don't remember the details; or in Scouring of the Shire vol.2 when people lynched an innocent probably Menel or Might). I don't know if he's always like that and I've just usually ignored it but those are the things I immediately connected his comment to.

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