6 Degrees of Separation - Page 31 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Firefoot · 07-08-2005, 10:13 AM

Labadal -> Túrin -> Thingol -> Galadriel -> Elrond -> Thorin Oakenshield

mormegil · 07-08-2005, 10:17 AM

That will work...I always like to share the route I had too

Labadal-->Hurin-->Turgon-->Galadriel-->Bilbo-->Thorin

Firefoot · 07-08-2005, 10:49 AM

Wulf -> Wolf (Farmer Maggot's dog)

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-13-2005, 03:11 PM

Wulf --> Frealaf --> Saruman --> Pippin/Merry --> Farmer Maggot --> Wolf

or are we not allowed to use the wizards?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 07-14-2005, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Extra Note: Try not to use Gandalf, Saurman,or Sauron if it can be helped. These people have a link to just about everybody. (Joy)

Does your solution require Saruman, Firefoot?

Firefoot · 07-14-2005, 06:28 AM

Yes, the solution does need Saruman to keep it within any reasonable length.

So over to you, Fordim! And welcome to the QR.

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-14-2005, 11:30 AM

Thank'ee for the welcome, Firefoot. And as it is now my "go":

Merry --> Malbeth the Seer

Nilpaurion Felagund · 07-14-2005, 07:11 PM

Merry -> Glorfindel -> (Eärnur ->) Cirdan -> Aranarth -> Arvedui -> Malbeth the Seer

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-14-2005, 09:42 PM

Herm...not an answer I had anticipated but it seems to work....

Actually, the solution I came up with has far fewer steps (only two people between Merry and Malbeth) so do we keep going or do I cede the floor?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 07-15-2005, 10:20 PM

That depends on you, I guess.

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-16-2005, 09:47 AM

All right, then I do not cede the floor yet!

At least, not for a few more days just to see if there's anyone who can come up with a more direct route...

Nilpaurion Felagund · 07-16-2005, 09:57 AM

Merry -> Cirdan -> Arvedui -> Malbeth the Seer?

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-16-2005, 03:24 PM

I don't know...did Cirdan and Arvedui ever have any direct contact with one another? Cirdan sent a ship to get Arvedui but he himself did not go...so we could put the captain he sent between Cirdan and Arvedui, but that's still longer than my solution...

I am either really good at this game or just awful....

Here's a hint: think Barrow Downs

Formendacil · 07-16-2005, 03:31 PM

Merry- Witchking - Arvedui

???

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-16-2005, 09:12 PM

Nope...because the Witch King of Angmar never confronted Arvedui directly (so far as I can tell). Angmar's army destroyed Arvedui's kingdom, but I don't think that counts......

Nilpaurion Felagund · 07-17-2005, 05:10 AM

Did you use items?

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-19-2005, 09:52 PM

Nope...

But seeing as I have held up this thread for long enough, and as I am increasingly convinced that I messed up the rules, and as Nilp's dogged persistance is impressive, I shall reveal my "solution"

Merry --> the fea of the slain warrior that 'possesed' him in the barrow --> Arvedui --> Malbeth the Seer

In the "Fog on the Barrow Downs" chapter, when Merry awakes from his possession he at first is confused as to his identity, crying out that he has been stabbed -- he is clearly reliving the final moments of the original denizen of the barrow. And as I find it hard to believe that a foot soldier would be given such an elaborate barrow, I figured that the unnamed warrior must have been a higher-up, and thus known to Arvedui....

So did I massively mess this up or what??

Nilpaurion Felagund · 07-19-2005, 10:22 PM

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So did I massively mess this up or what?? (Fordim)

I think you didn't.

Although the link between that warrior and Arvedui is tenuous. No wonder I had a tough time. When you mentioned Barrow-downs, I thought you meant the sword.

The things you come up with . . .

I know. And the link between the sword and Arvedui is more tenuous than that between the warrior and Arvedui.

Oh, well . . .

Sir Fordim, you make a nasty poser.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 07-28-2005, 08:30 PM

Carcaroth -> Khamul

Fordim Hedgethistle · 07-29-2005, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Carcaroth -> Khamul

Two solutions:

Carcaroth --> Morgoth --> Sauron --> Khamul (but this solution requires using relationships amonst maiar which, I believe, is frowned upon in this forum...)

or

Carcaroth --> Luthien --> Galadriel --> Sam --> Gaffer Gamgee --> Khamul

Nilpaurion Felagund · 07-29-2005, 10:37 PM

Back to you.

Fordim Hedgethistle · 08-02-2005, 10:29 AM

An easy one:

Gothmog --> the Master of Lake Town

Nilpaurion Felagund · 08-02-2005, 10:38 AM

Gothmog the winged one, or Gothmog the pink one?

Assuming the second . . .

Gothmog -> Witch-King -> Merry -> Bilbo -> Master of Lake Town?

Fordim Hedgethistle · 08-02-2005, 10:48 AM

Herm...should have been clearer...it's the winged Gothmog I'm thinking of (you know, lord of the Balrogs and all that)

But by the way, the Gothmog of LotR was a Nazgul!

Nilpaurion Felagund · 08-02-2005, 10:51 AM

I think he was a Man who rose through the ranks by being a suck-up to Sauron. Kinda like his Mouth.

The Books thread is that way.

Yeah, I know, Adam.

Gothmog -> Fëanor -> Galadriel -> Bilbo

Fordim Hedgethistle · 08-02-2005, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Gothmog -> Fëanor -> Galadriel -> Bilbo

Uhhhhh....you kinda missed the Master of Lake Town, but I think that's a gimme...

Like I said, an easy one (*Fordim puts on his thinking cap to come up with a real nasty poser for his next turn*) so it's over to you again, Nilp.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 08-02-2005, 10:58 PM

Right! I forgot the Master.

Thanks for overlooking that silly mistake, Sir Fordim.

Îbal -> Amarië

Telchar · 08-03-2005, 09:58 AM

Ibal - (Ulbar) - Aldarion - Gil-galad - Finrod - Amarië

Nilpaurion Felagund · 08-03-2005, 06:44 PM

Welcome back, Telchar!

Hmmm . . . looks good. Your turn.

Telchar · 08-04-2005, 12:27 AM

Nobs ---> Brandir

Nilpaurion Felagund · 08-04-2005, 01:24 AM

Nob -> Merry -> Galadriel -> Melian -> Túrin -> Brandir

Nilpaurion Felagund · 08-11-2005, 02:20 AM

Éorl -> Céorl (Mortals only)

Joy · 08-11-2005, 10:04 PM

I think this is virtually impossible. It was over 500 years between the founding of Rohan and the Battle of the Fords of Isen.

Éorl -> The Sons Of Eorl -> Theoden -> Céorl

Telchar · 08-12-2005, 01:03 AM

That one is easy ...

Eorl -> Ceorl

There is no seperation, as "Ceorl" is simply the name for a footsoldier. Those Eorl were in contact with plenty ;o)

Joy · 08-12-2005, 01:28 AM

You have a good point there Telchar.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 08-14-2005, 01:03 AM

But there is separation.

And I need specific names.

A hint, perhaps, would help: There was a chap once removed from Eorl that was preserved all those five hundred years.

Joy · 08-14-2005, 01:10 AM

Éorl -> Céorl (Mortals only)

By Mortals only, you are meaning no Elves too right? And if you mean Smeagol, I don't see where he ever met anyone of Rohan

Nilpaurion Felagund · 08-14-2005, 01:24 AM

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And if you mean Smeagol, I don't see where he ever met anyone of Rohan (Joy)

The chap I'm referring to was "preserved", but not necessarily alive, during those five centuries.

Joy · 08-14-2005, 01:33 AM

Okay, I get it now. I was wondering if you were going that route

Very good!!

Eorl -> Cirion -> Denethor -> Theoden -> Ceorl

Nilpaurion Felagund · 08-14-2005, 01:44 AM

Oh, right, that would work.

*sigh* I was hoping someone would pass it through Baldur, son of Brego. Oh, well.

Sorry for being subject to my nitpickiness.

Your turn.

07-08-2005, 10:17 AM	#1202
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,679	That will work...I always like to share the route I had too Labadal-->Hurin-->Turgon-->Galadriel-->Bilbo-->Thorin __________________ When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators. -- P. J. O'Rourke

07-13-2005, 03:11 PM	#1204
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,851	Wulf --> Frealaf --> Saruman --> Pippin/Merry --> Farmer Maggot --> Wolf or are we not allowed to use the wizards? __________________ Scribbling scrabbling.

07-14-2005, 11:30 AM	#1207
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,851	Thank'ee for the welcome, Firefoot. And as it is now my "go": Merry --> Malbeth the Seer __________________ Scribbling scrabbling.

07-14-2005, 07:11 PM	#1208
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Merry -> Glorfindel -> (Eärnur ->) Cirdan -> Aranarth -> Arvedui -> Malbeth the Seer __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

07-14-2005, 09:42 PM	#1209
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,851	Herm...not an answer I had anticipated but it seems to work.... Actually, the solution I came up with has far fewer steps (only two people between Merry and Malbeth) so do we keep going or do I cede the floor? __________________ Scribbling scrabbling.

07-08-2005, 10:13 AM	#1201
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,646	Labadal -> Túrin -> Thingol -> Galadriel -> Elrond -> Thorin Oakenshield

07-08-2005, 10:49 AM	#1203
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,646	Wulf -> Wolf (Farmer Maggot's dog)

07-14-2005, 06:28 AM	#1206
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,646	Yes, the solution does need Saruman to keep it within any reasonable length. So over to you, Fordim! And welcome to the QR.

07-15-2005, 10:20 PM	#1210
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Ummm . . . That depends on you, I guess. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

07-16-2005, 09:47 AM	#1211
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,851	All right, then I do not cede the floor yet! At least, not for a few more days just to see if there's anyone who can come up with a more direct route... __________________ Scribbling scrabbling.

07-16-2005, 09:57 AM	#1212
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Merry -> Cirdan -> Arvedui -> Malbeth the Seer? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

07-16-2005, 03:24 PM	#1213
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,851	I don't know...did Cirdan and Arvedui ever have any direct contact with one another? Cirdan sent a ship to get Arvedui but he himself did not go...so we could put the captain he sent between Cirdan and Arvedui, but that's still longer than my solution... I am either really good at this game or just awful.... Here's a hint: think Barrow Downs __________________ Scribbling scrabbling.

07-16-2005, 03:31 PM	#1214
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,347	Merry- Witchking - Arvedui ??? __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

07-16-2005, 09:12 PM	#1215
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,851	Nope...because the Witch King of Angmar never confronted Arvedui directly (so far as I can tell). Angmar's army destroyed Arvedui's kingdom, but I don't think that counts...... __________________ Scribbling scrabbling.

07-17-2005, 05:10 AM	#1216
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Ummm . . . Did you use items? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

07-19-2005, 09:52 PM	#1217
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,851	Nope... But seeing as I have held up this thread for long enough, and as I am increasingly convinced that I messed up the rules, and as Nilp's dogged persistance is impressive, I shall reveal my "solution" Merry --> the fea of the slain warrior that 'possesed' him in the barrow --> Arvedui --> Malbeth the Seer In the "Fog on the Barrow Downs" chapter, when Merry awakes from his possession he at first is confused as to his identity, crying out that he has been stabbed -- he is clearly reliving the final moments of the original denizen of the barrow. And as I find it hard to believe that a foot soldier would be given such an elaborate barrow, I figured that the unnamed warrior must have been a higher-up, and thus known to Arvedui.... So did I massively mess this up or what?? __________________ Scribbling scrabbling.

07-28-2005, 08:30 PM	#1219
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	I'll assume it's my turn. Carcaroth -> Khamul __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

07-29-2005, 10:37 PM	#1221
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	The second one is correct. Back to you. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

08-02-2005, 10:29 AM	#1222
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,851	An easy one: Gothmog --> the Master of Lake Town __________________ Scribbling scrabbling.

08-02-2005, 10:38 AM	#1223
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Which? Gothmog the winged one, or Gothmog the pink one? Assuming the second . . . Gothmog -> Witch-King -> Merry -> Bilbo -> Master of Lake Town? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

08-02-2005, 10:48 AM	#1224
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,851	Herm...should have been clearer...it's the winged Gothmog I'm thinking of (you know, lord of the Balrogs and all that) But by the way, the Gothmog of LotR was a Nazgul! __________________ Scribbling scrabbling.

08-02-2005, 10:51 AM	#1225
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Oh, yeah? Prove it! I think he was a Man who rose through the ranks by being a suck-up to Sauron. Kinda like his Mouth. The Books thread is that way. Yeah, I know, Adam. Gothmog -> Fëanor -> Galadriel -> Bilbo __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

08-02-2005, 10:58 PM	#1227
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	D'oh! Right! I forgot the Master. Thanks for overlooking that silly mistake, Sir Fordim. Îbal -> Amarië __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

08-03-2005, 09:58 AM	#1228
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Ibal - (Ulbar) - Aldarion - Gil-galad - Finrod - Amarië __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

08-03-2005, 06:44 PM	#1229
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Hey! Welcome back, Telchar! Hmmm . . . looks good. Your turn. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

08-04-2005, 12:27 AM	#1230
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Nobs ---> Brandir __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

08-04-2005, 01:24 AM	#1231
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	You mean Nob, don'tcha? Nob -> Merry -> Galadriel -> Melian -> Túrin -> Brandir __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

08-11-2005, 02:20 AM	#1232
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Taking over . . . Éorl -> Céorl (Mortals only) __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

08-11-2005, 10:04 PM	#1233
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,020	I think this is virtually impossible. It was over 500 years between the founding of Rohan and the Battle of the Fords of Isen. Éorl -> The Sons Of Eorl -> Theoden -> Céorl __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

08-12-2005, 01:03 AM	#1234
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	easy way out That one is easy ... Eorl -> Ceorl There is no seperation, as "Ceorl" is simply the name for a footsoldier. Those Eorl were in contact with plenty ;o) __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

08-12-2005, 01:28 AM	#1235
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,020	You have a good point there Telchar. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

08-14-2005, 01:03 AM	#1236
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Ah! But there is separation. And I need specific names. A hint, perhaps, would help: There was a chap once removed from Eorl that was preserved all those five hundred years. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

08-14-2005, 01:10 AM	#1237
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,020	Éorl -> Céorl (Mortals only) By Mortals only, you are meaning no Elves too right? And if you mean Smeagol, I don't see where he ever met anyone of Rohan __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

08-14-2005, 01:33 AM	#1239
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,020	Okay, I get it now. I was wondering if you were going that route Very good!! Eorl -> Cirion -> Denethor -> Theoden -> Ceorl __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

08-14-2005, 01:44 AM	#1240
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Uh . . . Oh, right, that would work. sigh I was hoping someone would pass it through Baldur, son of Brego. Oh, well. Sorry for being subject to my nitpickiness. Your turn. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...