Who Am I?

[Lyta_Underhill]

Is is Hurin?

I travelled long, and never far
From reminders of my great despair.

He was allowed to go free and wander Beleriand at will, but all shunned him because of his manner of leaving from Thangorodrim and the thoughts that he had succumbed to Morgoth, thus he despaired.

I could not leave them

(he returned to find Turgon in Gondolin)

deeply scarred

(in despair after his long captivity)

Works I devised, and left them there.

(He raised a gravestone for Morwen his wife outside Gondolin and left for Nargothrond to confront Mim the Petty Dwarf.)

Cheers,
Lyta

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

That is the right way to think. However, no, Hurin isn't what I am looking for (pretty good answer though).

Some advice: for the 'never far from reminders of my great despair one, try to think of someone who wondered accross scenes that all contained one common thing (these are the 'reminders')

I travelled long, and never far
From reminders of my great despair.
I could not leave them, deeply scarred
Works I devised, and left them there.


[ August 01, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

[Osse]

I am asuming that because Hurin was incorrect, Turin is too? The same justification goes behind it being him as for his father (Hurin).
The only line that does not fit is;
"From reminders of my great despair"
I can't think of anything that reminded him of his great despair, i might find something but i'd have to re-read the entire chapter; "Of Turin Turambur"

It isn't a good guess, but it fits roughly and i just wanted to make sure it wasn't him so i can cross another candidate of my list. (which is still too long!)

Osse

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Your assumption is correct.

If you've got a list, by the way, you may as well just say all the names on it as soon as you can so we can get moving on...

[Turambar]

Daeron?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

No, but that's perhaps the closest yet in terms of a certain similarity. (Remember that you have to explain your answers....)

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Hmmm... I'm going to have to stop doing this [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. Someone answer this and I'll promise the next one will be easy.

For the (hopefully) final clue, X-Man is a Noldo.

I travelled long, and never far
From reminders of my great despair.
I could not leave them, deeply scarred
Works I devised, and left them there.

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

I think it's Maglor.

I travelled long, and never far
From reminders of my great despair.-reminders of the silmarils and the Oath of Feanor that he took.
I could not leave them, deeply scarred
Works I devised, and left them there.-He was deeply scarred, literally and figuratively, because he almost repented the Oath but didn't in the end, and when he recovered the Silmarils with Maedhros, they burned his hands. Not sure about the works, except that he had to leave his lands during the Dagor Bragollach, so that's something he left.

As for the similarities to Daeron, Maglor was also a musician and a wanderer.

[ August 13, 2003: Message edited by: Luthien_ Tinuviel ]

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

*exasperated laugh*.... you got it, but it wasn't a very good job was it? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Nothing more than a guess... Well, it was Maglor, but I'd better explain the riddle a little better.

I travelled long, and never far
From reminders of my great despair.-- The Sea, into which he had cast his Silmaril. He wandered along the coast for many years in lament for the loss of the Silmaril into it.
I could not leave them, deeply scarred
Works I devised, and left them there. -- The 'works' were the songs that he sang in lament for the Silmaril, and since no-one heard them but the sea and the wind they were 'left there' and were not known by anyone else. Deeply scarred, of course, because of the Oath; bound to the Sea because of his misery about the Silmaril affair.

So, that's it. Had to explain just about the whole riddle for that guess, but I'm glad it's finally over. Your turn, Luthien.

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

Brave heart he said,
And none more than his own,
Who was rewarded in his crime,
And having risked all was given a new home.

It took me a while to come up with a good one. I don't know how hard that's going to be. And I know the meter's not perfect- I'm not that good at rhyming, but I think it's okay. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[Turambar]

Beregond called Faramir "brave heart", and himself showed great bravery in leaving his post and defending his captain against Denethor's servants, though this was technically a "crime". I believe he ws later rewarded by Aragorn by being sent to Ithilien.

[ August 15, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

Well that was quick... Yes, indeed it is Beregond. You may continue with a question of your own to stump and confuse us. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[Turambar]

The last of the first (three),
I became the first of the last.

[ August 27, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Gil-Galad]

Gandalf? he recevied the elven ring last, then he was the first one to know where the one ring was

[Turambar]

No.

One word in the clue is an Elvish pun (i.e. an English translation of an Elvish word that will help you).

[Cathelm]

Could it be Elwe/Thingol?

He was the leader of the first three companies of Quendi that followed the Valar into the west, and then became the first of the last Eldar in Middle Earth.

[Turambar]

Elwë is correct -- last (named) of the elvish ambassadors, but "first" of the Teleri (elvish for last).

Your turn.

[Cathelm]

Thanks, Turambar! Hope this next one isn't all too difficult.

My new love lay on the grave of my old love
I cried out her name, not knowing what it was
A swinging pendulum could do no worse to my life.

Have at it!

[Arestevana]

Is it Turin Turambar?

[Cathelm]

Turin Turambar it is!

[Arestevana]

Sorry for the delay, I hope this isn't too easy or too terrible. Here you are:

Find me at the start
In excess of questioned time.
Or in the initial note
Of a current rhyme.

Many were the tears
Of grief that filled my eyes
Reminded by my aching heart
When love ended in lies
Everlasting as the rain that falls
Now from the clouded skies.

In the shadow of my loss
The echo of my cry
My shattered heart would stop.
Who am I?

[Evisse the Blue]

Miriel?

[Arestevana]

Nope. Good guess though.

[Arestevana]

No more takers?

A hint:
The first paragraph: Two lines form a cryptic clue toward the person's name, and two give instructions on solving the second paragraph.
Second Paragraph: A clue toward the person's name, revealed by directions in the first paragraph.
Third Paragraph: Clue toward the person themself. This paragraph should be taken quite literally.

[ September 11, 2003: Message edited by: Arestevana ]

[Evisse the Blue]

Aredhel?
I can't shake the conviction that it must be a woman.

[Cathelm]

I've got the same feeling as Evisse.
Best I can think of is Niniel, the Tear-Maiden

[Arestevana]

No and No.
The best hint I can give is what I said before: The person's name is actually in the question. And yes, it is a woman.

[Airerûthiel]

I would say Aragorn but as it's not a major character...I'm stumped.

I'll take a wild guess at Beren (although I have no idea where that came from).

[Evisse the Blue]

My last guess on this would be Arwen. (heart - when).

[The Saucepan Man]

It's staring you in the face, folks. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Great clue, by the way, Arestevana. You should join us more often in the Cryptic Clue thread. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[Arestevana]

Airerûthiel: I think you're reading the first page. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]
No, it is not Arwen.
Saucepan: Congratulations, would you like to go now? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
Somehow I think all the other cryptic people are already on Cryptic Clues, seeing as how no one's getting this one and I can never figure one out over there. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[Evisse the Blue]

I'm officially the stupidest person on these boards because I still don't get it!
[img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] Is it Nienna?
Mr Saucepan, sir, please don't leave us humble ones in the dark and tell us who the person is!

[Arestevana]

*sighs* Not Nienna.
Okay: The person's name is actually spelt out in the second paragraph. The last two lines of the first paragraph will show you where.

[ September 14, 2003: Message edited by: Arestevana ]

[Cathelm]

I see it! I see it! Cheese, you weren't lying when you said it was staring us in the face...
It's Morwen, folks!!!

[Evisse the Blue]

Ai! ::hits head on keyboard:: ::and again:: ::and again::
"in excess of questioned time" - more; + when
-->Morwen of course! - "absurdly simple like most riddles when you see the answer". [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
Who am I kidding, I never would have got it; congratulations, Catehelm!

[Cathelm]

Actually, I got it by looking at the first letters in the second paragraph thing. I wouldn't have been able to get it your way, Evisse, so good for you! I don't have anything ready, so I'll just think on it until Arestevana confirms my answer.

[Arestevana]

And confirm it I will. Please continue, Cathelm!

[Cathelm]

Thankee much, Arestevana! This is probably waaaay too easy for you folks, but we shall see.

A namesake of precious metals,
He lived in the city, among the petals.
But before long peace met its horror,
They packed their bags and went to war.
But victory they could not defend,
He met the stunted father's end.
A reincarnation of himself,
I ask of you: Who is this elf?

[Evisse the Blue]

Is it Glorfindel?

[Cathelm]

*sigh* I knew it was easy... I will think of a better one next time. Your turn Evisse.