who can name...... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mornie Alantie · 06-17-2002, 07:51 AM

Here's a quiz to see if you've got to much time to do Tolkien stuff. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

1. Who were the first four leaders of the Elves?

2. Who refused to give Feanor a lock of her hair?

3. Who swore to never marry?

4. Who was the bearer of Narya, Vilya, and Nenya?(during the war of the Ring)

5. If Tolkien hinted anything(which he did) where were the entwifes?

6. Who threw an apple at Bill Ferney and who kicked him?

7. Who commanded the Barrow wights?

8. Who created the Dwarves?

9. Which mortal bore the Silmaril right before Dior did?

10. Name three of the Istari's names in Valinor.

I'll come back a little later with the answers [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Melephelwen · 06-17-2002, 08:03 AM

Hurry up! Hurry up! I'm curious! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Amberle · 06-17-2002, 08:14 AM

I think the answer to four is: Gandalf(Narya), Galadriel(Nenya), and Elrond(Vilya)

And I tthink the answer for six is: Sam through the apple, and Bill the Pony kicked Bill Ferny.

Amberle · 06-17-2002, 08:15 AM

I think the answer to four is: Gandalf(Narya), Galadriel(Nenya), and Elrond(Vilya)

And I think the answer for six is: Sam through the apple, and Bill the Pony kicked Bill Ferny.

Fingolfin of the Noldor · 06-17-2002, 08:33 AM

1. I think I know the answer you want but I don't know if it is the correct answer. Shouldn't the 3 "elf-fathers" mentioned in the awakening myth at the end of the War of the Jewels be given precedence? Their names are Enel, Imin and Tata

2. Galadriel

3. off-hand I don't recall (i'll have to back to ya)

4. Gandalf., Galadriel Elrond

5. for the most part dead though he leaves open the possibility some of them may ahve survived by fleeing to the east or as slaves [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

6. I don't recall off-hand [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img] I haven't read lotr in a while

7. I believe according to text in unfinished tales the Barrow-wights were roused during WR and in the beginning sent by the WK

8. Aule, but Eru gave them fear(souls)

9. Luthien (she alone of the eldalie was mortal the peredhil not being counted as Quendi)

10. Olorin, Curumo, Alatar, Aiwendi, Palando

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Melephelwen · 06-17-2002, 08:42 AM

1. I think Finwë, Ingwë, Olwë and Elwë???

2. Galadriel sounds right Fingolfin of the Noldor(?)

3. Did somebody do??

4. Narya - Gandalf, Vilya - Elrond, Nenya - Galadriel

5. At some point they were at The Brown Lands east of Anduin. They left it later, no body knows where.

6. Sam threw the apple, Bill the pony kicked him. (Not Sam, the other)

7. Tom Bombadil

8. Er... some Vala

9. Beren

10. Olórin, er... some more

Lol! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

The Silver-shod Muse · 06-17-2002, 08:44 AM

1. ?
2. Galadriel
3. ?, lots of people, I'm sure
4. Cirdan, Gandalf and Galadriel
5. In the Shire/the Old Forest
6. Sam threw the apple and Bill kicked him
7. Angmar?
8. Aule
9. Beren
10. ?

I'm sorry to say that I didn't do so well on this one. Good test, Mornie.

[ June 17, 2002: Message edited by: The Silver-shod Muse ]

Mornie Alantie · 06-17-2002, 09:11 AM

Ill give the answers after 10 or 15 replies

Now Ill give the entwife one though since nobody is really close, and the entwives didn't turn evil in the old forest.

in the Shadow of the Past Sam is somewhat arguing with Ted Sandyman about dragons and such and here is a qoute from Sam,

'But what about these Tree-men,these giants as you might call them? They do say that one bigger than a tree was seen up away beyond the North Moors not long back'

Sandyman says,
'who's they?'

and Sam says,
'my cousin Hal for one. He works for Mr. Boffin at Overhill and goes up to the Northfarthing for the hunting. He saw one.'

and Ted says,
'says he did, pehaps. Your Hal's always saying he's seen things; and maybe he sees things that ain't there.'

Sam Says,
'But this one was as big as an elm tree, and walking - walking seven yards to a stride, if it was an inch.'

Now doesn't that sound like an Ent?

Lindolirian · 06-17-2002, 12:29 PM

1. Finwe, Ingwe, Olwe, Elwe
2.Galadriel
3. Tar Ancalime
4. Narya-Gandalf, Vilya-Elrond, Nenya-Galadriel
5.They disappeared North of the Shire. (Sam's convo w/ Sandyman)
6. Samwise threw the apple and his pony Bill kicked Bill Ferny.
7. The Witch King of Angmar aka Lord of the Nazgul.
8. Aule
9. Beren
10. Curinir, Olorin, Aiwendel.

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Luthien_ Tinuviel · 06-17-2002, 03:27 PM

Does ANYBODY know the answer to #3?

Lothiriel Silmarien · 06-17-2002, 04:15 PM

1. Who were the first four leaders of the Elves?
Olwe, Elwe, Finwe, Fingwe
2. Who refused to give Feanor a lock of her hair?
Galadriel

3. Who swore to never marry?
Tar Ancalime

4. Who was the bearer of Narya, Vilya, and Nenya?(during the war of the Ring)
Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel

5. If Tolkien hinted anything(which he did) where were the entwifes?
The Shire

6. Who threw an apple at Bill Ferney and who kicked him?
Sam threw the apple and Bill kicked him..?

7. Who commanded the Barrow wights?
The Witch King...?

8. Who created the Dwarves?
Aule

9. Which mortal bore the Silmaril right before Dior did?
Luthien, she became mortal

10. Name three of the Istari's names in Valinor
Curunir (Saruman) Alatar (Radagast) Olorin (Gandalf)

Legolas · 06-17-2002, 11:40 PM

Lothiriel Silmarien
Alatar and Radagast are two different wizards.
Radagast's name in Valinor was Aiwendil.

No one has gotten #1 right so far (that I've seen).

Lenwë (Nandor), Finwë (Noldor), Ingwë (Vanyar), and Elwë (Sindar).

Olwë, which many of you answered, was not a leader until his brother, Elwë, died.

Lothiriel Silmarien · 06-18-2002, 11:19 AM

Oops, sorry. I was on the right track though. Alatar is one Istari. I just checked the answers for #1, and got all the names, but whn I scrolled down to hit reply, I saw that you had put the answer to #1! Oh well. Does anybody know if I got the rest right? Maybe I can pass with a 90%!

Lothiriel Silmarien · 06-18-2002, 11:21 AM

I wanna know about #7 though, I was actually gonna put Tom Bombadil. He got the Barrow-wights to leave Frodo and the rest, but I am confused altogether about the Barrow-wights, so oh well for me!

Lómelindi · 06-18-2002, 04:59 PM

Tom Bombadil had the power to overcome them, but he certainly didn't set the Barrow-wights after Frodo and the Hobbits; that fact makes Bombadil not their commander.

The Witch-king of Angmar probably commanded the Barrow-wights, since he was the one who sent them to the Barrow-downs in the first place, during the wars with Arnor.

Of course, it could also be possible that the Barrow-wights commanded themselves. Angmar did vanish from the world, and they were evil spirits, and by definition, evil usually involves doing harm and creating chaos. But I think that theory is delving too deep and getting too far-fetched.

There's just my logical, deductive two-cents on the matter. (Sorry, once I get thinking, I grab the topic and run.)

06-18-2002, 08:23 PM

The leaders were Finwe (noldor) Ingwe(Vanyar) Olwe and Elwe (Teleri)

Galadriel

I think it was nimrodel

Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel

I think somewhere close to the shire on the account of samwise's cousin's description

Sam threw the apple and bill the pony kicked him

The Witch King?

Aule

Thingol was last i think but he was immortal, so beren then

Curumo, olorin, pallando

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 06-19-2002, 06:13 PM

I wonder who commands our BW? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Mornie Alantie · 06-19-2002, 07:29 PM

these are the answers to the Quiz.


1.) Ingwe ruled the Vanyar. Finwe ruled the Noldor. Elwe and Olwe ruled the Teleri cause they were too numerous for one to rule and elwe never died until, well, he was Thingol. Haven't you ever heard the name/title king Elwe Thingol?


2.) Galadriel Refused to give Feanor a lock of her hair cause she basically disliked him from the beginning.


3.) I didn't know Ancalime swore never to marry but she DID marry. Finrod Fealegund swore never to marry and NEVER did marry. This is found in the Silmarilion at the very end of the chapter, Of the Noldor in Beleriand.


4.) Gandalf bore Narya, Elrond bore Vilya, and Galadriel bore Nenya.

Five was already answered.


6.) Sam hit Ferney in the face and Bill the Poney got revenge in the end of ROTK by kicking him.


7.) The Lord of the Nazgul Commanded the Barrow wight to Haunght the Barrows so their commander was The Lord of the Nazgul.


8.)Aule created them, Illuvitar found out, but since they were not like puppets subject to Aule Illuvitar let them live. Thanks to him we have Gimli Son of Gloin on the BARROWDOWNS. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]


9.) Luthian did. It says that the silmarl was brought to Dior from Luthian (after she died) who bore it and the sons of Feanor refused to take it from such a "heavenly" being.


10) Gandalf was Olorin, Saruman was Curumo, Radagast was Aiwendil, and the others were Palando and Alatar.

that was a mouthful.

06-17-2002, 08:03 AM	#2
Melephelwen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: the Middle of Nowhere Posts: 295	Hurry up! Hurry up! I'm curious! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ We're all following a strange melody We're all summoned by a tune We're following the piper And we dance beneath the moon

06-17-2002, 08:15 AM	#4
Amberle Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: I'll tell you as soon as I know Posts: 13	I think the answer to four is: Gandalf(Narya), Galadriel(Nenya), and Elrond(Vilya) And I think the answer for six is: Sam through the apple, and Bill the Pony kicked Bill Ferny. __________________ * Amberle * Yas incaslan al Nel na cremin ta yas minlalan al clae... " Friendship is unnessicary, like philosohpy, like art... it has no survival value, rather it is something that gives value to survival.

06-17-2002, 08:33 AM	#5
Fingolfin of the Noldor Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NH Posts: 63	1. I think I know the answer you want but I don't know if it is the correct answer. Shouldn't the 3 "elf-fathers" mentioned in the awakening myth at the end of the War of the Jewels be given precedence? Their names are Enel, Imin and Tata 2. Galadriel 3. off-hand I don't recall (i'll have to back to ya) 4. Gandalf., Galadriel Elrond 5. for the most part dead though he leaves open the possibility some of them may ahve survived by fleeing to the east or as slaves [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] 6. I don't recall off-hand [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img] I haven't read lotr in a while 7. I believe according to text in unfinished tales the Barrow-wights were roused during WR and in the beginning sent by the WK 8. Aule, but Eru gave them fear(souls) 9. Luthien (she alone of the eldalie was mortal the peredhil not being counted as Quendi) 10. Olorin, Curumo, Alatar, Aiwendi, Palando [ June 17, 2002: Message edited by: Fingolfin of the Noldor ] [ June 17, 2002: Message edited by: Fingolfin of the Noldor ] __________________ Sailhand of the Mariners' Guild

06-17-2002, 08:42 AM	#6
Melephelwen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: the Middle of Nowhere Posts: 295	1. I think Finwë, Ingwë, Olwë and Elwë??? 2. Galadriel sounds right Fingolfin of the Noldor(?) 3. Did somebody do?? 4. Narya - Gandalf, Vilya - Elrond, Nenya - Galadriel 5. At some point they were at The Brown Lands east of Anduin. They left it later, no body knows where. 6. Sam threw the apple, Bill the pony kicked him. (Not Sam, the other) 7. Tom Bombadil 8. Er... some Vala 9. Beren 10. Olórin, er... some more Lol! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ We're all following a strange melody We're all summoned by a tune We're following the piper And we dance beneath the moon

06-17-2002, 09:11 AM	#8
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	Ill give the answers after 10 or 15 replies Now Ill give the entwife one though since nobody is really close, and the entwives didn't turn evil in the old forest. in the Shadow of the Past Sam is somewhat arguing with Ted Sandyman about dragons and such and here is a qoute from Sam, 'But what about these Tree-men,these giants as you might call them? They do say that one bigger than a tree was seen up away beyond the North Moors not long back' Sandyman says, 'who's they?' and Sam says, 'my cousin Hal for one. He works for Mr. Boffin at Overhill and goes up to the Northfarthing for the hunting. He saw one.' and Ted says, 'says he did, pehaps. Your Hal's always saying he's seen things; and maybe he sees things that ain't there.' Sam Says, 'But this one was as big as an elm tree, and walking - walking seven yards to a stride, if it was an inch.' Now doesn't that sound like an Ent? __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

06-17-2002, 07:51 AM	#1
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	who can name...... Here's a quiz to see if you've got to much time to do Tolkien stuff. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] 1. Who were the first four leaders of the Elves? 2. Who refused to give Feanor a lock of her hair? 3. Who swore to never marry? 4. Who was the bearer of Narya, Vilya, and Nenya?(during the war of the Ring) 5. If Tolkien hinted anything(which he did) where were the entwifes? 6. Who threw an apple at Bill Ferney and who kicked him? 7. Who commanded the Barrow wights? 8. Who created the Dwarves? 9. Which mortal bore the Silmaril right before Dior did? 10. Name three of the Istari's names in Valinor. I'll come back a little later with the answers [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

06-17-2002, 08:14 AM	#3
Amberle Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: I'll tell you as soon as I know Posts: 13	I think the answer to four is: Gandalf(Narya), Galadriel(Nenya), and Elrond(Vilya) And I tthink the answer for six is: Sam through the apple, and Bill the Pony kicked Bill Ferny. __________________ * Amberle * Yas incaslan al Nel na cremin ta yas minlalan al clae... " Friendship is unnessicary, like philosohpy, like art... it has no survival value, rather it is something that gives value to survival.

06-17-2002, 08:44 AM	#7
The Silver-shod Muse Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The shoulder of a poet, TX Posts: 388	1. ? 2. Galadriel 3. ?, lots of people, I'm sure 4. Cirdan, Gandalf and Galadriel 5. In the Shire/the Old Forest 6. Sam threw the apple and Bill kicked him 7. Angmar? 8. Aule 9. Beren 10. ? I'm sorry to say that I didn't do so well on this one. Good test, Mornie. [ June 17, 2002: Message edited by: The Silver-shod Muse ] __________________ "'You," he said, "tell her all. What good came to you? Do you rejoice that Maleldil became a man? Tell her of your joys, and of what profit you had when you made Maleldil and death acquainted.'" -Perelandra, by C.S. Lewis

06-17-2002, 12:29 PM	#9
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	1. Finwe, Ingwe, Olwe, Elwe 2.Galadriel 3. Tar Ancalime 4. Narya-Gandalf, Vilya-Elrond, Nenya-Galadriel 5.They disappeared North of the Shire. (Sam's convo w/ Sandyman) 6. Samwise threw the apple and his pony Bill kicked Bill Ferny. 7. The Witch King of Angmar aka Lord of the Nazgul. 8. Aule 9. Beren 10. Curinir, Olorin, Aiwendel. [ June 17, 2002: Message edited by: Lindolirian ] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

06-17-2002, 03:27 PM	#10
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	Does ANYBODY know the answer to #3? __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

06-17-2002, 04:15 PM	#11
Lothiriel Silmarien Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 829	1. Who were the first four leaders of the Elves? Olwe, Elwe, Finwe, Fingwe 2. Who refused to give Feanor a lock of her hair? Galadriel 3. Who swore to never marry? Tar Ancalime 4. Who was the bearer of Narya, Vilya, and Nenya?(during the war of the Ring) Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel 5. If Tolkien hinted anything(which he did) where were the entwifes? The Shire 6. Who threw an apple at Bill Ferney and who kicked him? Sam threw the apple and Bill kicked him..? 7. Who commanded the Barrow wights? The Witch King...? 8. Who created the Dwarves? Aule 9. Which mortal bore the Silmaril right before Dior did? Luthien, she became mortal 10. Name three of the Istari's names in Valinor Curunir (Saruman) Alatar (Radagast) Olorin (Gandalf) __________________ Si vanwa na Romello vanwa Valimar!~~ ~~Now lost, lost to those from the East is Valimar! My LotR page

06-17-2002, 11:40 PM	#12
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,850	Lothiriel Silmarien Alatar and Radagast are two different wizards. Radagast's name in Valinor was Aiwendil. No one has gotten #1 right so far (that I've seen). Lenwë (Nandor), Finwë (Noldor), Ingwë (Vanyar), and Elwë (Sindar). Olwë, which many of you answered, was not a leader until his brother, Elwë, died. __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

06-18-2002, 11:19 AM	#13
Lothiriel Silmarien Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 829	Oops, sorry. I was on the right track though. Alatar is one Istari. I just checked the answers for #1, and got all the names, but whn I scrolled down to hit reply, I saw that you had put the answer to #1! Oh well. Does anybody know if I got the rest right? Maybe I can pass with a 90%! __________________ Si vanwa na Romello vanwa Valimar!~~ ~~Now lost, lost to those from the East is Valimar! My LotR page

06-18-2002, 11:21 AM	#14
Lothiriel Silmarien Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 829	I wanna know about #7 though, I was actually gonna put Tom Bombadil. He got the Barrow-wights to leave Frodo and the rest, but I am confused altogether about the Barrow-wights, so oh well for me! __________________ Si vanwa na Romello vanwa Valimar!~~ ~~Now lost, lost to those from the East is Valimar! My LotR page

06-18-2002, 04:59 PM	#15
Lómelindi Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: a swirling miasma of scintillating thoughts and turgid ideas Posts: 155	Tom Bombadil had the power to overcome them, but he certainly didn't set the Barrow-wights after Frodo and the Hobbits; that fact makes Bombadil not their commander. The Witch-king of Angmar probably commanded the Barrow-wights, since he was the one who sent them to the Barrow-downs in the first place, during the wars with Arnor. Of course, it could also be possible that the Barrow-wights commanded themselves. Angmar did vanish from the world, and they were evil spirits, and by definition, evil usually involves doing harm and creating chaos. But I think that theory is delving too deep and getting too far-fetched. There's just my logical, deductive two-cents on the matter. (Sorry, once I get thinking, I grab the topic and run.) __________________ "The fires of Isengard will spread, and the woods of Tookborough and Buckland will burn, and...and all that was once green and good in this world will be gone! There won't be a Shire, Pippin." ~ Merry, TTT

06-18-2002, 08:23 PM	#16
Mitch Cawley Guest Posts: n/a	The leaders were Finwe (noldor) Ingwe(Vanyar) Olwe and Elwe (Teleri) Galadriel I think it was nimrodel Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel I think somewhere close to the shire on the account of samwise's cousin's description Sam threw the apple and bill the pony kicked him The Witch King? Aule Thingol was last i think but he was immortal, so beren then Curumo, olorin, pallando

06-19-2002, 06:13 PM	#17
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	I wonder who commands our BW? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

06-19-2002, 07:29 PM	#18
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	these are the answers to the Quiz. <font color="green"> 1.) Ingwe ruled the Vanyar. Finwe ruled the Noldor. Elwe and Olwe ruled the Teleri cause they were too numerous for one to rule and elwe never died until, well, he was Thingol. Haven't you ever heard the name/title king Elwe Thingol? <font color="gold"> 2.) Galadriel Refused to give Feanor a lock of her hair cause she basically disliked him from the beginning. <font color="blue"> 3.) I didn't know Ancalime swore never to marry but she DID marry. Finrod Fealegund swore never to marry and NEVER did marry. This is found in the Silmarilion at the very end of the chapter, Of the Noldor in Beleriand. <font color="purple"> 4.) Gandalf bore Narya, Elrond bore Vilya, and Galadriel bore Nenya. Five was already answered. <font color="red"> 6.) Sam hit Ferney in the face and Bill the Poney got revenge in the end of ROTK by kicking him. <font color="Silver"> 7.) The Lord of the Nazgul Commanded the Barrow wight to Haunght the Barrows so their commander was The Lord of the Nazgul. <font color="orange"> 8.)Aule created them, Illuvitar found out, but since they were not like puppets subject to Aule Illuvitar let them live. Thanks to him we have Gimli Son of Gloin on the BARROWDOWNS. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] <font color="light blue"> 9.) Luthian did. It says that the silmarl was brought to Dior from Luthian (after she died) who bore it and the sons of Feanor refused to take it from such a "heavenly" being. <font color="light green"> 10) Gandalf was Olorin, Saruman was Curumo, Radagast was Aiwendil, and the others were Palando and Alatar. that was a mouthful. __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.