Request of Permission - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rosa Underhill · 05-03-2002, 01:57 PM

Okay, I finally went through the whole "Effects of Fantasy" thread (great answers and, for a while, an interesting debate, until it got mean). I've found tons of useful quotes that I'd like to put in my paper but I don't want to use them without the author's permission, so, may I get permission from you guys to use the following quotes?

Quote:

Child of the 7th Age: fantasy literature helped her get through the heartache of losing a daughter
“It's not the be-all or end-all of my existence, but it is one part of who I am.”
“In your own post, you say fantasy is "pure escapism and back to reality again". I believe this is true, but with one important difference. When you return, you are changed just a bit from having read and participated in that subcreation. It may be just a fantasy world with Elves and Hobbits and Ents, but this subcreation carries messages about who we are, our values, and how we should respond when challenges abound.”

Tigerlily Gamgee: “It helped to find somewhere else to go when peers and school became cruel and hard to handle.”
“I think that fantasy is one of the last places on earth that you can find nobility in humans.”

MyyyPreciousSS: “I don't even want to know what I would be like if I hadn't discovered fantasy....”

Aosama, the Wandering Star: “Fantasy always made me believe in something better.”
“Books, especially fantasy and adventure, allow me to go places and do things I could never do in real life. It's kind of liberating, actually.”

Araen: “If it wasn't for Fantasy books I would not be tyoing this right now. In the last couple of years I was so buillied, so teased that I became very depressed and I wanted to kill myself. The only way I managed to cheer myself up was to read or to slip into Pern or Middle Earth. I would pop in for tea at Bilbo's or stand on the sands at Fort Weyr.”

Amarinth: “i remember when i was in college a long time ago, a student leader was assassinated in our campus. in his grave are written the epithet, immortal words of frodo at the grey havens: "for it is so...some will lose it...so that others may keep it."”

dragongirlG: “Reading fantasy gave me a shelter that I had not discovered, especially Harry Potter because the characters were going through the same teenage things that I was.”
“Fantasy has helped me grow emotionally, made me more mature, and discover my passion: writing.”

Thinhyandoiel: “But I find my current use for fantasy is not only escape, but for learning and discovery.”
“Shortly after the fight began, I found that I was suddenly in the basement, where I am right now, with The Two Towers in my hand….But for that space of 45 minutes the shouts and swearing, the banging and slamming of doors was gone.”

NyteSky: “Most importantly it stretches one's imagination, more than any other genre seems to. It shows me things I never would have thought of, lets me see things from the other guy's point of view, takes me places long forgotten. I owe a great debt to fantasy and its writers. The world would be a barren desert without it, devoid of beauty and imagination and hope.”

Jessica Jade: “Words are definitely very powerful tools....the biggest lie i have ever heard is that old sing-song rhyme:"Sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me." Blah! Can any statement be more blatantly false? Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can tear my soul to pieces.”

Manelwen:“I am constantly reading stale textbooks, utterly depressing newspapers and grim biographies; once in a blue moon, a nice thick and juicy fantasy novel makes me feel better again.”

Thalionyulma: “What was the effect of fantasy on me? A lot. It has given me dreams.”

I may not be able to use all of these in the paper but most of them would be a great help. Thanks for your time guys! Oh, and as soon as I get the paper done (which should be soon since it's due on Monday) I'll find some place on the 'net to post if for anyone who wants to read. Of course, I could always try submitting it to the fan fiction area, but I don't think it counts since it's an essay and not completely Tolkien or Middle-Earth related... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

***Mithadan*** · 05-03-2002, 02:41 PM

Considering that these posts were made on a website to which the public has access, as I understand it, their content is in the public domain. Very polite to ask permission though.

Child of the 7th Age · 05-03-2002, 06:26 PM

I'll be glad to give permission. Have fun writing the paper. Let us know how it goes! sharon, the 7th age hobbit

Araen · 05-03-2002, 06:36 PM

Fine with me. I hope you get a good grade on your paper.

Belin · 05-04-2002, 09:20 PM

Not that it's really any of my business, none of the words being mine, but just out of curiousity... how are you planning to cite them? I don't believe MLA makes any allowance for such things as of yet, and they pose interesting citation problems, although I do think Internet words are indeed valid.

--Belin Ibaimendi

Rosa Underhill · 05-04-2002, 09:42 PM

There actually is a way to cite these quotes in MLA format. For the main citation (on the "Works Cited" page) you put down the name and address of the message board. When you do an in-text citation, you put down something like "...(Barrow Downs, post 7)" I think. And, to clarify the speaker of the quote, you'd just put his/her name in the sentence in which you quote them somewhere.

And thanks guys for your extra permission. I just wanted to be really sure it was okay for me to quote you. I will tell you all about the paper when I find out how it went (I've got to do a presentation on it Wednsday).

Thinhyandoiel · 05-04-2002, 09:48 PM

Sweet, I helped. ^.^ Yep! You have my permission! Good luck on the paper!

Jessica Jade · 05-04-2002, 10:43 PM

you have my permission, Rosa [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Good luck with the paper!

Starbreeze · 05-05-2002, 10:14 AM

Yey! Good luck Rosa!

Tigerlily Gamgee · 05-05-2002, 12:13 PM

Sure, you can use my quotes!
I am interested to read your paper when you are done! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

NyteSky · 05-05-2002, 09:08 PM

Hmm. Considering you said it's due Monday this probably won't matter. At least I hope you're not feverishly working on it now. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] (if it was me, I would be) But thanks, glad you found something you might be able to use in what I said. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Goodluck, and I'd love to read it.

Aosama, the Wandering Star · 05-05-2002, 09:14 PM

Wow! I've been quoted! I feel so honoured!
I know this is late, but use any words of mine. Words are just toys that I play with, and I will share them with anyone who wants to play with me. Excuse the corny analogy, but its all I can come up with [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
And I'd love to read it too!

[ May 05, 2002: Message edited by: Aosama, the Wandering Star ]

Thalionyulma · 05-06-2002, 03:16 AM

glad to have helped, even in such a small way. Good luck!

05-03-2002, 02:41 PM	#2
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,312	Considering that these posts were made on a website to which the public has access, as I understand it, their content is in the public domain. Very polite to ask permission though. __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.

05-03-2002, 06:26 PM	#3
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,135	I'll be glad to give permission. Have fun writing the paper. Let us know how it goes! sharon, the 7th age hobbit __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

05-03-2002, 06:36 PM	#4
Araen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 70	Fine with me. I hope you get a good grade on your paper. __________________ "Where is the horse and the rider, where is the horn that was blowing, they have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow, the days are damned in the west? behind the hills? there are shadows... "

05-04-2002, 09:20 PM	#5
Belin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: all the wide unfriendly pathways of the world Posts: 330	Not that it's really any of my business, none of the words being mine, but just out of curiousity... how are you planning to cite them? I don't believe MLA makes any allowance for such things as of yet, and they pose interesting citation problems, although I do think Internet words are indeed valid. --Belin Ibaimendi __________________ "I hate dignity," cried Scraps, kicking a pebble high in the air and then trying to catch it as it fell. "Half the fools and all the wise folks are dignified, and I'm neither the one nor the other." --L. Frank Baum

05-04-2002, 09:42 PM	#6
Rosa Underhill Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waymeet, the Shire Posts: 297	There actually is a way to cite these quotes in MLA format. For the main citation (on the "Works Cited" page) you put down the name and address of the message board. When you do an in-text citation, you put down something like "...(Barrow Downs, post 7)" I think. And, to clarify the speaker of the quote, you'd just put his/her name in the sentence in which you quote them somewhere. And thanks guys for your extra permission. I just wanted to be really sure it was okay for me to quote you. I will tell you all about the paper when I find out how it went (I've got to do a presentation on it Wednsday). __________________ WWAHD? (What would a Hobbit do?)

05-04-2002, 09:48 PM	#7
Thinhyandoiel Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 187	Sweet, I helped. ^.^ Yep! You have my permission! Good luck on the paper! __________________ In gwidh ristennen, i fae narchannen I lach Anor ed ardhon gwannen Caled veleg, ethuiannen

05-04-2002, 10:43 PM	#8
Jessica Jade Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tirion upon Túna, Atlanta Posts: 154	you have my permission, Rosa [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Good luck with the paper! __________________ http://www.cadential64.com The musicians had indeed laid bare the youngest, most innocent of our ideas of life, the indestructible yearning for the way things aren't and can never be. ~ Philip Roth, The Human Stain

05-05-2002, 10:14 AM	#9
Starbreeze Ghost of a Smile Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mirkwood - Middle Earth Posts: 389	Yey! Good luck Rosa! __________________ Do not tamper with the affairs of wizards, they are not all that subtle - Terry Pratchett To write is to make dreams, to make dreams is to awaken the fantasy of the mind, to awaken the mind is to be a master.

05-05-2002, 12:13 PM	#10
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,056	Sure, you can use my quotes! I am interested to read your paper when you are done! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

05-05-2002, 09:08 PM	#11
NyteSky Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tower of Sorcery and Lore Posts: 76	Hmm. Considering you said it's due Monday this probably won't matter. At least I hope you're not feverishly working on it now. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] (if it was me, I would be) But thanks, glad you found something you might be able to use in what I said. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Goodluck, and I'd love to read it. __________________ The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. AIM: NightSky717 Email/msn IM: davidone_2000@msn.com

05-05-2002, 09:14 PM	#12
Aosama, the Wandering Star Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle-Earth Posts: 210	Wow! I've been quoted! I feel so honoured! I know this is late, but use any words of mine. Words are just toys that I play with, and I will share them with anyone who wants to play with me. Excuse the corny analogy, but its all I can come up with [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] And I'd love to read it too! [ May 05, 2002: Message edited by: Aosama, the Wandering Star ]

05-06-2002, 03:16 AM	#13
Thalionyulma Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: across the sea Posts: 295	glad to have helped, even in such a small way. Good luck!