A few Questions about Silmarillion.... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Manelwen · 04-23-2002, 02:57 PM

Okay, I am reading Silmarillion at this current moment in time and I am a wee bit confused about a few things and I have a few questions, like:

-What happened to Turin to make him so wild in the first place? After he killed Saeros.

-Is Beleg Strongbow a Sindar? Or Silvan?

-Is the metal, Galvorn, used again after Maeglin is killed?

I know I will have more later...but that's it pretty much.

-Manelwen

[ April 23, 2002: Message edited by: Manelwen ]

burrahobbit · 04-23-2002, 06:47 PM

Hi Manelwen!

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What happened to Turin to make him so wild in the first place? After he killed Saeros.

1: He just killed someone and thinks that he is an outlaw.

2: He lives in the wild more than he is wild. What I mean is that he stays away from civilization for a while.

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Is Beleg Strongbow a Sindar? Or Silvan?

Sindar.

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Is the metal, Galvorn, used again after Maeglin is killed?

Er, ah, um, I like monkeys.

04-29-2002, 08:04 AM

you like monkeys? have you tried getting therapy?

Starbreeze · 04-29-2002, 08:22 AM

Blue pixie! Welcome - do I know you from somewhere? Could it be the fact that you are sitting right next to me that makes you so familiar? Anyway, whoever you are, welcome, and please be sensible! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Kuruharan · 04-29-2002, 05:28 PM

I don't believe that galvorn is ever mentioned again.
I always had the idea that galvorn was off of an asteroid. I don't think that there is any text about that, but it does fit. Strange metal, never used again, it could be.

By the way, Manelwen, that's a really pretty blue circle thingy.
[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

(What is it? I can't decide if it's a butterfly or a pair of swans or something totally different.)

Manelwen · 04-29-2002, 06:51 PM

Swans. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I sorta needed to know about the Galvorn thing because I was making a story where the warrior was decked out in it...Thanks.

-Manelwen

Oh that's creepy...the artilery is practicing a few miles away, and the pictures are shaking on the wall...

[ April 29, 2002: Message edited by: Manelwen ]

Kuruharan · 04-30-2002, 07:09 AM

They have artillery in Alqualondë?

Thalionyulma · 04-30-2002, 07:50 AM

Kuruharan, I thought galvorn was from a meteorite? - I got to look it up...

burrahobbit, monkeys? - hahahaha, good one! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Kuruharan · 04-30-2002, 05:43 PM

Meteorite, asteriod...whatever. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Big hunka metal rock thingy that fell out of the sky. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Manelwen · 04-30-2002, 09:15 PM

Er...yes...in this Alqualonde, they do...It is er...CFB Alqualonde...

I thought that Galvorn was a mineral that Maeglin found and wrought into armor. He supposedly found it while visiting dwarves and they said it was useless and was ugly. Maeglin saw something else in it and brought it with him back to his home and created armor from it.

-Manelwen

Lothiriel Silmarien · 05-02-2002, 03:06 PM

That's what I think Galvorn is too. No wait! It isn't. It's not from an asteroid, but when Maeglin went to Gondolin, he would usually mine and stuff and in the caves in Gondolin, he found that metal.Or was that something else......I don't know but I think that's it. NO wait! It is the metal from the asteroid. It's the black metal used by Eol, Maeglin's father, and Turin's sword, given to him by Beleg. And I quote...
"'Iron of Death', the name given by Túrin Turambar to Beleg's black sword Anglachel after its reforging in Nargothrond.
The mate of Anguirel"
End quote. I love saying that.

Manelwen · 05-02-2002, 09:07 PM

I thought that Anglachel was charred when Turin killed Beleg with the blade. Then, the smiths repaired it but it was never returned to its complete state (I think it got zapped by lightening or something...I dunno and I can't find my Silmarillion book anywhere...). Hm...I'll have to look that up because its bothering me...
-Manelwen

Manelwen · 05-02-2002, 09:14 PM

I just figured out why Anglachel turned black...because it was a unique sword and mourned for Beleg. It turned black and went blunt, like Beleg's blood had scorched it. The sword was sharpened by never was fully restored, it was still black.
-Manelwen

Kuruharan · 05-02-2002, 09:33 PM

Maybe that is where I got the idea about the asteriod, I thought I'd seen it somewhere. Alas, I can't look it up. I'm in the middle of a move and my books are all packed up. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

(Pssst, Manelwen!! A wolf ate your swans!! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] )

04-23-2002, 02:57 PM	#1
Manelwen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Alqualondë Posts: 78	A few Questions about Silmarillion.... Okay, I am reading Silmarillion at this current moment in time and I am a wee bit confused about a few things and I have a few questions, like: -What happened to Turin to make him so wild in the first place? After he killed Saeros. -Is Beleg Strongbow a Sindar? Or Silvan? -Is the metal, Galvorn, used again after Maeglin is killed? I know I will have more later...but that's it pretty much. -Manelwen [ April 23, 2002: Message edited by: Manelwen ] __________________ Victory favors neither the righteous nor the wicked. It favors the prepared.

04-29-2002, 08:22 AM	#4
Starbreeze Ghost of a Smile Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mirkwood - Middle Earth Posts: 389	Blue pixie! Welcome - do I know you from somewhere? Could it be the fact that you are sitting right next to me that makes you so familiar? Anyway, whoever you are, welcome, and please be sensible! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Do not tamper with the affairs of wizards, they are not all that subtle - Terry Pratchett To write is to make dreams, to make dreams is to awaken the fantasy of the mind, to awaken the mind is to be a master.

04-29-2002, 05:28 PM	#5
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,685	I don't believe that galvorn is ever mentioned again. I always had the idea that galvorn was off of an asteroid. I don't think that there is any text about that, but it does fit. Strange metal, never used again, it could be. By the way, Manelwen, that's a really pretty blue circle thingy. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] (What is it? I can't decide if it's a butterfly or a pair of swans or something totally different.) __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

04-29-2002, 06:51 PM	#6
Manelwen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Alqualondë Posts: 78	Swans. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I sorta needed to know about the Galvorn thing because I was making a story where the warrior was decked out in it...Thanks. -Manelwen Oh that's creepy...the artilery is practicing a few miles away, and the pictures are shaking on the wall... [ April 29, 2002: Message edited by: Manelwen ] __________________ Victory favors neither the righteous nor the wicked. It favors the prepared.

04-30-2002, 07:09 AM	#7
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,685	They have artillery in Alqualondë? __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

04-29-2002, 08:04 AM	#3
Blue Pixie Guest Posts: n/a	you like monkeys? have you tried getting therapy?

04-30-2002, 07:50 AM	#8
Thalionyulma Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: across the sea Posts: 295	Kuruharan, I thought galvorn was from a meteorite? - I got to look it up... burrahobbit, monkeys? - hahahaha, good one! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

04-30-2002, 05:43 PM	#9
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,685	Meteorite, asteriod...whatever. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Big hunka metal rock thingy that fell out of the sky. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

04-30-2002, 09:15 PM	#10
Manelwen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Alqualondë Posts: 78	Er...yes...in this Alqualonde, they do...It is er...CFB Alqualonde... I thought that Galvorn was a mineral that Maeglin found and wrought into armor. He supposedly found it while visiting dwarves and they said it was useless and was ugly. Maeglin saw something else in it and brought it with him back to his home and created armor from it. -Manelwen __________________ Victory favors neither the righteous nor the wicked. It favors the prepared.

05-02-2002, 03:06 PM	#11
Lothiriel Silmarien Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 829	That's what I think Galvorn is too. No wait! It isn't. It's not from an asteroid, but when Maeglin went to Gondolin, he would usually mine and stuff and in the caves in Gondolin, he found that metal.Or was that something else......I don't know but I think that's it. NO wait! It is the metal from the asteroid. It's the black metal used by Eol, Maeglin's father, and Turin's sword, given to him by Beleg. And I quote... "'Iron of Death', the name given by Túrin Turambar to Beleg's black sword Anglachel after its reforging in Nargothrond. The mate of Anguirel" End quote. I love saying that. __________________ Si vanwa na Romello vanwa Valimar!~~ ~~Now lost, lost to those from the East is Valimar! My LotR page

05-02-2002, 09:07 PM	#12
Manelwen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Alqualondë Posts: 78	I thought that Anglachel was charred when Turin killed Beleg with the blade. Then, the smiths repaired it but it was never returned to its complete state (I think it got zapped by lightening or something...I dunno and I can't find my Silmarillion book anywhere...). Hm...I'll have to look that up because its bothering me... -Manelwen __________________ Victory favors neither the righteous nor the wicked. It favors the prepared.

05-02-2002, 09:14 PM	#13
Manelwen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Alqualondë Posts: 78	I just figured out why Anglachel turned black...because it was a unique sword and mourned for Beleg. It turned black and went blunt, like Beleg's blood had scorched it. The sword was sharpened by never was fully restored, it was still black. -Manelwen __________________ Victory favors neither the righteous nor the wicked. It favors the prepared.

05-02-2002, 09:33 PM	#14
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,685	Maybe that is where I got the idea about the asteriod, I thought I'd seen it somewhere. Alas, I can't look it up. I'm in the middle of a move and my books are all packed up. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] (Pssst, Manelwen!! A wolf ate your swans!! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] ) __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...