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Old 12-01-2002, 08:19 PM   #1
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Ring basic details about evles

what are the basic differences btw elves and men? physical, psycological, etc. Things like pointy ears, love of nature....
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Old 12-01-2002, 08:44 PM   #2
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Elves are the first children of Iluvatar, men are the second. Elves generally live a whole lot longer than men. They have enouph similarities that they can "git hitched up". Elves have the option of leaving ME and going to Valinor, men, when they die "leave the circles of the earth". That is all I can think of for now.
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Old 12-02-2002, 02:38 PM   #3
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elves are graceful and prancy. men stomp about in their big stompy boots. elves pick flowers. men trample over them with their big stompy boots.

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Old 12-02-2002, 03:14 PM   #4
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Old 12-02-2002, 06:36 PM   #5
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Elves have an extremely strong attatchment to Nature and a passion for life itself. Men only destroy these things, taking more than they need to survive just because they desire power above all else (can you hear Galadriel in there too? [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ). In other words, elves are superior (not to mention they KNOW it. Big inferiority complex going on there) to man, for the sole reason they are more MATURE.
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Elves

Other Names: EldaliÎ, Eldar, The Elder Children of Il?vatar, The Firstborn, People of the Stars, Quendi

The first Elves awoke by CuiviÈnen, the Water of Awakening in the far east of Middle-earth, long Ages before the Rising of the Sun or Moon. Unlike Men, the Elves were not subject to illness or death, and at the time of the Lord of the Rings, there were still at least two Elves in Aman who had awoken by CuiviÈnen in the first days; IngwÎ, Lord of the Vanyar, and OlwÎ, brother of King Elu Thingol.

Origins and Early History

In the far eastern land of CuiviÈnen, on the shores of the Inland Sea of Helcar and beneath the mountains of the Orocarni, the Elves awoke under the starlight of the Years of the Trees. The Valar at first knew nothing of their coming, but they were soon discovered by the spies of Melkor, who sent his creatures to watch them and harass them.


How long they existed in this perilous and unprotected state is not known, but the legends of those times, of the Hunter and of a dark Rider, were preserved in Valinor by the Eldar that came there. It is known that many of the ancient Elves were captured by Melkor and imprisoned in Utumno - it is generally thought that these hapless beings were the origins of the race of Orcs.

The Valar discovered that the Elves had awoken when OromÎ, hunting in the lands of Middle-earth, heard their singing voices. He named them Eldar, the People of the Stars, but the Elves' own name for their kind was Quendi, those who speak with voices. Because of the horrors of Melkor, many of the Elves were at first suspicious of the Vala, but (after briefly returning to Valinor to tell the other Valar of his discovery) he remained with them and protected them for a time.

Concerned for the safety of the Elves in Middle-earth, which was at that time under the control of Melkor, the Valar left Valinor and made war against the Dark Lord: this was the Battle of the Powers, which saw Melkor taken as captive back to Valinor.

The Great Journey

After the defeat of Melkor, the Valar debated the fate of the Elves - whether they should be left to dwell in Middle-earth, or brought to Valinor to be kept under the direct protection of the Valar. It was decided to bring them to the land of the Valar, and OromÎ was sent back to CuiviÈnen to summon them.

When he returned, though, he found that the Elves feared the Valar, and were reluctant to make the journey. Three ambassadors were chosen, IngwÎ, FinwÎ and ElwÎ, to travel to Aman with OromÎ, and help the Elves decide on their course. These three were filled with awe by what they saw there, and by the light of the Two Trees, and counselled their people to follow the summons.

The followers of IngwÎ, and most of the peoples of FinwÎ and ElwÎ agreed, and set out on the Great Journey westwards across the wide lands of Middle-earth. These were the peoples later known as the Three Kindreds, the Vanyar, the Noldor and the Teleri. Not all the Elves obeyed the summons; those who refused are known as Avari, the Unwilling.

OromÎ led the peoples of the Three Kindreds out of the east of Middle-earth. The Vanyar were the least numerous, and the most eager to reach Aman, and they came first on the Journey, followed by the Noldor of FinwÎ.

The Teleri, led by ElwÎ and his brother OlwÎ, were the greatest host, and many were uncertain and doubtful. Not a few of these people left the Journey and remained in Middle-earth. The most notable of those who turned from the Journey were the Nandor, who were led away down the Vales of Anduin by LenwÎ.

At last, the Vanyar and the Noldor reached the shores of the Great Sea, in the regions between the Bay of Balar and the Firth of Drengist (regions later known, at least for the most part, as the Falas). Ulmo brought a great island to the shores, and on it transported the Elves to Aman.

The Teleri were the hindcomers, though, and arrived in Beleriand too late to embark on Ulmo's island. They dwelt for a while on the banks of the Gelion in eastern Beleriand, but later spread to the shores. In this time, two events of historical importance occurred - their lord ElwÎ was lost for a time in Nan Elmoth, and they encountered OssÎ, a Maia of the Sea.

Many of the Teleri wished to remain in Beleriand, some to seek for their lost lord, and others because of desires stirred in their hearts by OssÎ. When the time came for Ulmo to return to Beleriand to take the Teleri to Valinor, then, many of them remained behind. These people became known in after years as the Sindar, the Grey-elves, and those who dwelt by the shores under the lordship of CÌrdan became known as the Falathrim.

Melkor Chained: Three Ages of Bliss

Now came three ages of glory and bliss for the Elves, both east and west of the Great Sea. In Valinor, the Vanyar and the Noldor, and those of the Teleri who completed the Journey, dwelt with the Valar and learned from them. They dwelt in the jewelled city of Tirion in the Pass of Light, and at the Swanhaven of AlqualondÎ, and beneath the tower of AvallÛnÎ on the Lonely Isle of Tol EressÎa. While the Two Trees still gave light to the realm of the Valar, three ages passed, and the Elves of Valinor became the wisest and noblest of all the Children of Il?vatar.

Meanwhile, in Beleriand, the Sindar dwelt beneath starlight. While most of Middle-earth still slept, awaiting the coming of the Sun and Moon, Melian the Maia brought life to the forests and plains of Beleriand under Thingol's rule, and OromÎ would still ride at times across the darkling lands.

The Nature of the Elves

Both Elves and Men are the Children of Il?vatar, and so have much in common, but there are also great differences between the two peoples. Of these, the most significant is that Elves are 'immortal', at least while the World lasts; they do not suffer ageing or disease, and if they are slain or wither with grief, they are reincarnated in the Halls of Mandos in Valinor.

Although, unlike Men, the Elves must remain in the world until its ending, they are not bound to Middle-earth. They may if they wish take the straight road, and sail into the Uttermost West, a road that is barred to mortals.

Elves also have far clearer sight and perception than Men; they are naturally aware of many things that are hidden from the Younger Children, but these gifts are not without limit.

Religion

The Elves never had any distinct 'religion' in the sense that Men would understand the word; indeed, the High Elves had travelled to Valinor and lived with the Valar (or 'gods') themselves for many ages before Men came into the world.

Of all the Valar, they most revered Varda Elent·ri, the spouse of ManwÎ; and Lady of the Stars. In Middle-earth, they called her Elbereth, Star-Queen, and sang to her across the wide ocean Belegaer. Great respect was also given to Ulmo, especially during the First Age when he aided the Elves against Morgoth.

Some of the more important divisions of the Elves:


Eldar (Elves of the Great Journey)
Meaning: 'People of the Stars'
The name given to the Elves by the Vala OromÎ when he first found them wandering in the starlight of CuiviÈnen. At first, the name was applied to all Elves, but after the summons of the Valar, it came to be used only of the peoples who followed the summons and began the Great Journey.
The Three Kindreds of the Eldar were the Vanyar, the Noldor and the Teleri. All of the Vanyar and Noldor went to Aman (though many of the Noldor later returned to Middle-earth with FÎanor).
Many of the Teleri also journeyed to Valinor, but twice a host of this people turned away from the Journey in Middle-earth; these two kindreds are called ömanyar, the Eldar not of Aman. The first of these were the Nandor, who turned aside east of the Misty Mountains, and travelled down the River Anduin. The second, the Sindar, tarried in Beleriand seeking their lord, ElwÎ Singollo.

Avari (The Unwilling)
Pronunciation: a'varee
Meaning: Usually given as 'The Unwilling', but in fact 'Those who refused the summons' appears to be a more literal translation
'The Unwilling'; those of the Elves who refused the summons of the Valar to dwell in Valinor, and remained in the dark wilds of Middle-earth. Some of the Avari, it is said, were corrupted by Melkor in ancient days to become the progenitors of the race of Orcs.

Vanyar (Light Elves)
Meaning: 'The Fair (People)' (referring to the lightness of this people's hair)
Other Names: Fair Elves, Light Elves
The first of the Elves to make the great march westwards from CuiviÈnen to Valinor, and accounted the highest of the High Elves. Their leader, IngwÎ, bears the title High King of the Elves, and dwells on Taniquetil beneath the halls of ManwÎ.
All of the Vanyar journeyed to Valinor long before the beginning of the First Age, and remained there. For this reason, they are not mentioned often in the histories of Middle-earth.

Noldor (Deep-elves)
Meaning: 'Those with Knowledge'
Other Names: Golodhrim
The division of the Elves that followed FinwÎ as their lord. In the long march from CuiviÈnen to the western shores of Middle-earth, they were second great host. When they reached Valinor, they learned much from AulÎ the Smith, and were accounted the greatest of the Elves in matters of lore and craft.
They dwelt in Aman for many Ages, but after the Darkening of Valinor many of the Noldor forsook the Undying Lands and followed Melkor to Middle-earth. Melkor had slain FinwÎ and stolen the Silmarils, the work of FÎanor, the greatest craftsman of that people, and the Noldor returned to make war on him until he gave up the Great Jewels.

Teleri (The Third Clan)
Pronunciation: te'leree
Meaning: 'those who come last'
The third and greatest of the three Elf-kindreds of the Great Journey, from whom the Nandor and the Sindar were descended. The Teleri came last to Aman, and dwelt in AlqualondÎ on the western shores of the Great Sea.

Lindar (Teleri of Aman)
'The Singers'; the name by which the Teleri of Valinor called themselves.

Sindar (Grey-elves of Beleriand)
Pronunciation: see'ndarr
Meaning: 'Grey People' (from the name of their King, ElwÎ Singollo)
Other Names: Edhel, Elves of the Twilight
An Elvish people of Telerin origin. Coming to the western shores of Middle-earth with the others of their kin, they did not pass across the sea, but remained in Beleriand. Some had tarried there searching for their lord, ElwÎ, while others were persuaded to remain by OssÎ the Maia.
Before the return of the Noldor to Middle-earth, the Sindar were found in most parts of Beleriand; all claimed ElwÎ (known as Thingol in the Sindarin tongue) as their high king. There were two main countries of the Sindar, however; in Doriath under the rule of Thingol and Melian, and in the Falas, under the lordship of CÌrdan the Shipwright.
BEFORE THE RETURN OF THE NOLDOR
For two ages, the Sindar dwelt in peace and plenty; they roamed throughout Beleriand, from the shorelands of the Falas in the west to the Blue Mountains in the east, and all owned Thingol as their lord and king.
In the third age of the Captivity of Melkor (that is, the last age of the Years of the Trees), evil things that had dwelt east of the Blue Mountains began to trouble the Sindar. At this time, they first considered the need for weapons and armour, which they had not needed before. They traded with the Dwarves of Nogrod and Belegost, and learned smithcraft from them. Thus armed, they drove the invading wolves and Orcs and other foul things from their land and had peace again, for a time.

Nandor (Followers of LenwÎ)
Telerin Elves who turned aside from the Great Journey east of the Misty Mountains, and journeyed down the River Anduin. Some few later came into Beleriand and dwelt in Ossiriand, while those that remained founded realms of their own. The people of LÛrien were of this kind, as were the Wood-elves of Mirkwood.

Silvan Elves (Others who left the Great Journey)
Division: Mainly Teleri, but apparently also including a few Noldor
Meaning: 'Silvan' is English, denoting 'Woodland' Elves of mainly Telerin origin who dwelt in Middle-earth east of the Blue Mountains; their greatest realms in the northwest of Middle-earth were the Wood-elven kingdom in northern Mirkwood, and the land of LÛrien.

Laiquendi (Green-elves of Ossiriand)
The Green-elves of Ossiriand; those Elves of the Nandor who came at last over the Blue Mountains from the east and dwelt between them and the River Gelion.

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Old 12-11-2002, 08:07 PM   #9
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nobody mentioned that they don't actually sleep. they just sorta day-dream
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Old 12-15-2002, 12:04 AM   #10
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LePetitChoux, i didn't know you wrote encyclopedias! the short answer is:elves are better. most* men are stupid. *the exception would be early numenor and its descendants-note EXCEPTION, not the rule. it matters not, hobbits will rule ALL before the end!! muhahahahaha...

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Elves are basically better tempered then men, they aren't as violent as men! They're peace loving people who have great respect for the earth. They keep to themselves and try not to get mixed up in the problems of others, with the exception of the One Ring. On that note I think elves are a lot better then men, again with the exception of my Beloved Aragorn!! [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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