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Manardariel · 01-17-2003, 12:24 PM

Can I join?

It was the elves, I think.

Beren87 · 01-17-2003, 02:50 PM

Hmm, no it wasn't. At least, not that I know of. I am looking for a certain people and who they were led by.

Iarwain · 01-17-2003, 06:49 PM

The remaining Noldor, led by Celebrimbor

Beren87 · 01-17-2003, 07:04 PM

Correct!

7.Where was the dwelling of the King of the Eagles in the Third Age?

Pallando B.C-2
Thengise-2
Iarwain-1

Pallando B.C · 01-17-2003, 10:05 PM

If you were looking for a specific answer, I have not got one for you Beren. All I know is that Gwaihir dwelt upon the peaks of the Misty Mountains.

Enough?

[ January 17, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

Beren87 · 01-17-2003, 11:49 PM

There is a specific word for his "home".., if no one gets it in the next 2 guesses, I'll give it to Pallando.

the real findorfin · 01-18-2003, 02:39 AM

eyrie (sp), that is the name of an eagles home, but did you want a name (ie. Mine = Moria)

hobbitlass · 01-18-2003, 11:02 AM

In 'The Hobbit' the name Great Shelf was said. That's where the eagles took the dwarves, Bilbo and Gandalf to speak with the Lord of the eagles.

Beren87 · 01-18-2003, 12:01 PM

THAT was what I was looking for hobbitlass! correct!

8.What was the most renowned of the works of the Dwarves of the first Age?

Pallando B.C-2
Thengise-2
Iarwain-1
hobbitlass-1

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 01-18-2003, 12:26 PM

I'll take a stab at this, but I believe it was the Nauglamir. 'The necklace of the dwarves' I think.

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 01-20-2003, 05:22 PM

*bumps it to the top* Erm was that right? ^^

Beren87 · 01-20-2003, 09:42 PM

Oy, sorry Dennise, forgot about this thread.

Your correct!

9.Who fostered Elros and Elrond after the destruction of the Havens of Sirion?

Pallando B.C-2
Thengise-3
Iarwain-1
hobbitlass-1

And Thengise pulls ahead!

Morgoth Bauglir · 01-20-2003, 09:46 PM

oh noooooooo...

celegorm and curufin?

Beren87 · 01-20-2003, 09:52 PM

Nope. And please think about capitalization.

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 01-20-2003, 11:19 PM

Quite alright Matt! Umm...I believe the answer to your question is Maglor.

Beren87 · 01-20-2003, 11:24 PM

Woops, didn't even notice that I used your name. Thengise and Dennise do rhyme after all. Anyway, your correct. (Which already means you won, but I get to ask 10 questions here)

10.By what two other names does the "Secret Fire" go by? (losely perhaps, but they are considered synonyms.)

Pallando B.C-2
Thengise-4
Iarwain-1
hobbitlass-1

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 01-20-2003, 11:30 PM

I don't mind Beren, but let me correct the spelling of my name: Denisse. Sorry, I just had to put it right.

Oh and I believe that the two names are 'the flame of Anor' and perhaps 'the Flame Imperishable'(could be wrong...)

Beren87 · 01-20-2003, 11:35 PM

Ah, not only did I accidently call you it, I couldn't even spell it right. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

And, you may also be right! So...as I look at the scores I see, with a total of 5 that the winner is....

THENGISE!

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 01-20-2003, 11:52 PM

YAY!!! *Jumps around the thread*

Oh but I must say that if you think Thengise and Denisse rhyme, then you're not pronouncing Thengise right.

Thengise(then-gi-se) [gi is pronounced like the 'gi' in give and se is pronounced like the 'se' in sent]

I know, I know confusing. I guess I'd have to put one of those sound bites, so you can click on my name and hear me say it. LoL! So the truth is: not only did you say my name and not spell it right, but you also weren't pronouncing Thengise right. Hey but it's all good. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Anywayz...

1. What did the hobbits call themselves during the war of the ring?

zacattack · 01-21-2003, 02:53 AM

Could they have called themselves Halflings.

Pallando B.C · 01-21-2003, 04:26 AM

Shirefolk.

the real findorfin · 01-21-2003, 09:48 AM

Hobbits!?!?

Sindae · 01-21-2003, 11:53 AM

Periain? at least in Gondor they were called like this.

Beren87 · 01-21-2003, 02:10 PM

Little Folk? Little People?

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 01-21-2003, 05:41 PM

Wow, I've never been good with questions, but I must say that you are all wrong.

Here's a very small hint: the word means 'hole-dwellers or in other words hobbits' Not much of a clue, but I don't want to give it away...not yet at least.

Beren87 · 01-21-2003, 05:49 PM

holbytla? kuduk?

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 01-21-2003, 05:58 PM

Yay!! Beren87 is correct. They called themselves Kuduk.

2. Khazad-Dum was delved under what three mountains?

Beren87-1

zacattack · 01-21-2003, 06:41 PM

Caradhras,Redhorn and Silvertine

alaklondewen · 01-21-2003, 08:25 PM

Caradhras is Redhorn.

They are Caradhras, Celebdil, and Fanuidhol.

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 01-21-2003, 10:22 PM

That's right alaklondewen!

3. Who led the Nandor, leaving the Great Journey and moving south?

Beren87-1
alaklondewen-1

Pallando B.C · 01-21-2003, 10:26 PM

Denethor, son of Lenwë.

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 01-21-2003, 10:28 PM

No, not Denethor...

Pallando B.C · 01-21-2003, 10:30 PM

Opps sorry, It was Lenwë

Ultimatejoe · 01-22-2003, 06:21 AM

Umm, the Flame Imperishable and the Flame of Anor are not the same. The "Flame Imperishable" is the spirit of creation of Illuvatar. The Flame of Anor is the ring that Gandalf wields.

Beren87 · 01-22-2003, 06:31 PM

No, Ujoe, the Flame of Arnor is Gandalf's power. He is a servant of the secret fire, and a weilder of the Flame of Arnor. He both serves and weilds the power. The ring of Gandalf was Narya, which was not his true power as a miar. It is speculated the Flame of Arnor is an allusion to the white light of the sun as a symbol of the secret fire. While it is no means certain, they are generally used as the same thing.

Ultimatejoe · 01-22-2003, 11:08 PM

Quote:

10.By what two other names does the "Secret Fire" go by? (losely perhaps, but they are considered synonyms.)

You're still referring to two distinct things then. I've never heard of "The Flame of Arnor" as being an allusion to the sun; but even if that were true then you're drawing a false connection.

A=Flame of Arnor
B=The Sun
C=Flame Imperishable

If A is an allusion to B, and B is a symbol for C, then A is NOT a name for C.

Beren87 · 01-22-2003, 11:20 PM

The Flame Imperishable is the creating energy. The 'divine' energy of ME. Think of it as the force, and Gandalf simply tapping into it, that is how he weilded the Flame of Arnor, i.e. the Flame Imperishable. Flame Imperishable is what is used to create ME and everything in it.

[ January 23, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

Ultimatejoe · 01-22-2003, 11:42 PM

I know what the Flame Imperishable is... I just think calling the "Flame of Arnor" a synonym for said force is dead wrong. See my previous post.

Beren87 · 01-23-2003, 05:44 AM

Oh, I can see your point, as it is really a matter of opinion. Tolkien never explained what exactly it was, so its just how you interpret it. I was going more by Robert Foster's interpretation than anything else.

alaklondewen · 01-25-2003, 09:08 PM

We are still waiting for a confirmation on question 3.

01-17-2003, 12:24 PM	#161
Manardariel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Rivendell Posts: 817	Can I join? It was the elves, I think. __________________ Love is a perky elf dancing a merry little jig and then suddenly he turns on you with a miniature machine gun. Blog :-)\|FanFic Dream City

01-17-2003, 06:49 PM	#163
Iarwain Pugnaciously Primordial Paradox Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Birnham Wood Posts: 808	The remaining Noldor, led by Celebrimbor __________________ "And what are oaths but words we say to God?"

01-17-2003, 10:05 PM	#165
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 525	If you were looking for a specific answer, I have not got one for you Beren. All I know is that Gwaihir dwelt upon the peaks of the Misty Mountains. Enough? [ January 17, 2003: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ] __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

01-18-2003, 02:39 AM	#167
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	eyrie (sp), that is the name of an eagles home, but did you want a name (ie. Mine = Moria) __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

01-18-2003, 11:02 AM	#168
hobbitlass Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: next to the fire keeping warm Posts: 471	In 'The Hobbit' the name Great Shelf was said. That's where the eagles took the dwarves, Bilbo and Gandalf to speak with the Lord of the eagles. __________________ Just because a person has the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.

01-17-2003, 02:50 PM	#162
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,266	Hmm, no it wasn't. At least, not that I know of. I am looking for a certain people and who they were led by.

01-17-2003, 07:04 PM	#164
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,266	Correct! 7.Where was the dwelling of the King of the Eagles in the Third Age? Pallando B.C-2 Thengise-2 Iarwain-1

01-17-2003, 11:49 PM	#166
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,266	There is a specific word for his "home".., if no one gets it in the next 2 guesses, I'll give it to Pallando.

01-18-2003, 12:01 PM	#169
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,266	THAT was what I was looking for hobbitlass! correct! 8.What was the most renowned of the works of the Dwarves of the first Age? Pallando B.C-2 Thengise-2 Iarwain-1 hobbitlass-1

01-18-2003, 12:26 PM	#170
Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mirkwood, my kingdom Posts: 404	I'll take a stab at this, but I believe it was the Nauglamir. 'The necklace of the dwarves' I think. __________________ Thengise Greenleaf daughter of Legolas Greenleaf. My heart and soul belong to Judge Simon.

01-20-2003, 05:22 PM	#171
Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mirkwood, my kingdom Posts: 404	bumps it to the top Erm was that right? ^^ __________________ Thengise Greenleaf daughter of Legolas Greenleaf. My heart and soul belong to Judge Simon.

01-20-2003, 09:42 PM	#172
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,266	Oy, sorry Dennise, forgot about this thread. Your correct! 9.Who fostered Elros and Elrond after the destruction of the Havens of Sirion? Pallando B.C-2 Thengise-3 Iarwain-1 hobbitlass-1 And Thengise pulls ahead!

01-20-2003, 09:46 PM	#173
Morgoth Bauglir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 252	oh noooooooo... celegorm and curufin?

01-20-2003, 09:52 PM	#174
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,266	Nope. And please think about capitalization.

01-20-2003, 11:19 PM	#175
Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mirkwood, my kingdom Posts: 404	Quite alright Matt! Umm...I believe the answer to your question is Maglor. __________________ Thengise Greenleaf daughter of Legolas Greenleaf. My heart and soul belong to Judge Simon.

01-20-2003, 11:24 PM	#176
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,266	Woops, didn't even notice that I used your name. Thengise and Dennise do rhyme after all. Anyway, your correct. (Which already means you won, but I get to ask 10 questions here) 10.By what two other names does the "Secret Fire" go by? (losely perhaps, but they are considered synonyms.) Pallando B.C-2 Thengise-4 Iarwain-1 hobbitlass-1

01-20-2003, 11:30 PM	#177
Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mirkwood, my kingdom Posts: 404	I don't mind Beren, but let me correct the spelling of my name: Denisse. Sorry, I just had to put it right. Oh and I believe that the two names are 'the flame of Anor' and perhaps 'the Flame Imperishable'(could be wrong...) __________________ Thengise Greenleaf daughter of Legolas Greenleaf. My heart and soul belong to Judge Simon.

01-20-2003, 11:35 PM	#178
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,266	Ah, not only did I accidently call you it, I couldn't even spell it right. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] And, you may also be right! So...as I look at the scores I see, with a total of 5 that the winner is.... THENGISE!

01-20-2003, 11:52 PM	#179
Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mirkwood, my kingdom Posts: 404	YAY!!! Jumps around the thread Oh but I must say that if you think Thengise and Denisse rhyme, then you're not pronouncing Thengise right. Thengise(then-gi-se) [gi is pronounced like the 'gi' in give and se is pronounced like the 'se' in sent] I know, I know confusing. I guess I'd have to put one of those sound bites, so you can click on my name and hear me say it. LoL! So the truth is: not only did you say my name and not spell it right, but you also weren't pronouncing Thengise right. Hey but it's all good. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Anywayz... 1. What did the hobbits call themselves during the war of the ring? __________________ Thengise Greenleaf daughter of Legolas Greenleaf. My heart and soul belong to Judge Simon.

01-21-2003, 02:53 AM	#180
zacattack Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Angband Posts: 70	Could they have called themselves Halflings. __________________ "The dwarf breathes so loud we could have shot him in the dark "What an excellent spot I choose"-Gimli "Would you like me to describe it to you or just fetch for a box"-Legolas

01-21-2003, 04:26 AM	#181
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 525	Shirefolk. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

01-21-2003, 09:48 AM	#182
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Hobbits!?!? __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

01-21-2003, 11:53 AM	#183
Sindae Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: a messy room in the world's best city Posts: 95	Periain? at least in Gondor they were called like this. __________________ My page about Iceland

01-21-2003, 02:10 PM	#184
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,266	Little Folk? Little People?

01-21-2003, 05:41 PM	#185
Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mirkwood, my kingdom Posts: 404	Wow, I've never been good with questions, but I must say that you are all wrong. Here's a very small hint: the word means 'hole-dwellers or in other words hobbits' Not much of a clue, but I don't want to give it away...not yet at least. __________________ Thengise Greenleaf daughter of Legolas Greenleaf. My heart and soul belong to Judge Simon.

01-21-2003, 05:49 PM	#186
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,266	holbytla? kuduk?

01-21-2003, 05:58 PM	#187
Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mirkwood, my kingdom Posts: 404	Yay!! Beren87 is correct. They called themselves Kuduk. 2. Khazad-Dum was delved under what three mountains? Beren87-1 __________________ Thengise Greenleaf daughter of Legolas Greenleaf. My heart and soul belong to Judge Simon.

01-21-2003, 06:41 PM	#188
zacattack Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Angband Posts: 70	Caradhras,Redhorn and Silvertine __________________ "The dwarf breathes so loud we could have shot him in the dark "What an excellent spot I choose"-Gimli "Would you like me to describe it to you or just fetch for a box"-Legolas

01-21-2003, 08:25 PM	#189
alaklondewen Song of Seregon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Following the road less traveled Posts: 1,201	Caradhras is Redhorn. They are Caradhras, Celebdil, and Fanuidhol. __________________ At last I understand why we have waited! This is the ending. Now not day only shall be beloved, but night too shall be beautiful and blessed and all its fear pass away!

01-21-2003, 10:22 PM	#190
Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mirkwood, my kingdom Posts: 404	That's right alaklondewen! 3. Who led the Nandor, leaving the Great Journey and moving south? Beren87-1 alaklondewen-1 __________________ Thengise Greenleaf daughter of Legolas Greenleaf. My heart and soul belong to Judge Simon.

01-21-2003, 10:26 PM	#191
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 525	Denethor, son of Lenwë. __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

01-21-2003, 10:28 PM	#192
Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mirkwood, my kingdom Posts: 404	No, not Denethor... __________________ Thengise Greenleaf daughter of Legolas Greenleaf. My heart and soul belong to Judge Simon.

01-21-2003, 10:30 PM	#193
Pallando B.C Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhûn, Tasmania Posts: 525	Opps sorry, It was Lenwë __________________ {JHart} Support The Aussies!

01-22-2003, 06:21 AM	#194
Ultimatejoe Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trent University, Peterborough, Ontario Posts: 125	Umm, the Flame Imperishable and the Flame of Anor are not the same. The "Flame Imperishable" is the spirit of creation of Illuvatar. The Flame of Anor is the ring that Gandalf wields. __________________ Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory. -Leonardo Da Vinci

01-22-2003, 06:31 PM	#195
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,266	No, Ujoe, the Flame of Arnor is Gandalf's power. He is a servant of the secret fire, and a weilder of the Flame of Arnor. He both serves and weilds the power. The ring of Gandalf was Narya, which was not his true power as a miar. It is speculated the Flame of Arnor is an allusion to the white light of the sun as a symbol of the secret fire. While it is no means certain, they are generally used as the same thing.