PHANTASY FOOTBALL: Arda Cup 2012

[the phantom]

Selecting Your Team

Select your team members from the rosters available (the rosters are one post down). You will be awarded points according to how your players fare in their tournament games.

You must have one GK (goal keeper) and then you can use one of the following formations found below. (Formations listed as DF-MF-FW)

• 5-4-1
• 4-5-1
• 3-6-1
• 4-4-2
• 4-3-3

(In other words, if you choose 4-4-2, then you want to place 4 defenders, 4 midfielders, and 2 fowards on your team along with the goalie of your choice.)

You may not choose more than 3 players from one single team.

Place a bolded "C" after one of your players-> C. This player will be your captain and will earn (or lose) you double points.

Some players have stars (*) next to them. You are allowed a total of FOUR stars on your roster. This number will increase as the tournament advances.

Players with a star are considered to be solid players with a higher likelihood of scoring than other players at that position. Players with 2 stars are the cream of the crop, and are the most likely to gain points at the position. The team an individual plays on, that team's philosophy, the player's name recognition, and past performance can all contribute somewhat to star status. There is no guarantee that star players will score more- it's just more likely.

If MFs or DFs are listed lower down the roster (towards the FWs), then they are more likely to find themselves involved in the scoring than those MFs or DFs listed higher up towards the GK. Of course, there is no guarantee MFs & DFs listed closer to FWs will score more, but their chances are generally better.

Note on trades- After the first two rounds of group play, you can draft a completely new team. Unlimited trades. After the third and final round of group play, you are allowed SEVEN trades. After the first playoff round, you are allowed only THREE trades. After the quarterfinals and semifinals you are allowed only TWO trades. Do not under any circumstances edit your old teams once play has started. If you want to trade a player, make a new post stating the trade and list your new team. (If any of that is unclear, watch the way other players do it and you'll get the idea very quickly.)

Scoring Points In Games

Rules for gaining points are as follows.

• Goal by FW- 4 pts
• Goal by MF- 5 pts
• Goal by DF- 6 pts
• Assist- 3 pts
• Shutout, GK- 4 pts
• Shutout, DF- 4 pts
• Shutout, MF- 1 pt
• Allows 1 goal, GK- 2 pts
• Allows 1 goal, DF- 2 pts
• 3 GK saves- 2 pts
• Yellow Card- -1 pts
• Red Card- -3 pts

Scoring Points With Predictions

Take a blind shot in the dark at these questions, or read the various columns offered by our writers to help you decide how to answer. Either way, luck is involved. But don't skip this- if you happen to have a lucky day, these are worth a ton of points all together.

5 POINT QUESTIONS

Who will score the most goals in the tournament?

Who will have the most assists in the tournament?

Which team will win the tournament?

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?

GROUP PREDICTIONS

Predict the winner and runner up from each of the eight groups (the groups are listed in the next post down). Predicting the winner is worth 3 points. The runner up is worth 1. If you select the correct two teams but have their positions reversed, you will be awarded 2 points.

BUY A TEAM

You can have a total salary of 100 million. The rosters with salaries listed is here. Put together the highest scoring team you possibly can for 100 million or less. This team will not change throughout the tournament- it's just a one-time deal. At the finish of the tournament we'll see which person's 100-mill squad scored the most, and that person will gain 10 bonus points. (Formations allowed are all those listed above, plus 3-4-3.)
edit: Please use no more than TWO players from one team.

[the phantom]

Groupings

GROUP A at Michel Delving
Angband
Shire-Bree United
The Downer
Tol-In-Gaurhoth

GROUP B at Weathertop
Arnor
Inter Beleriand
Eriador
Gondolin

GROUP C at Moria
Anduin
Dwarves United
Erebor
Wilderland

GROUP D at Armenelos
Armenelos
Tirion
FC Valinor
Real Valinor

GROUP E at Grey Havens
Hithlum
The Havens
The Sea
Valimar

GROUP F at Isengard
Imladris
Isengard
Misty Mts
Rohan

GROUP G at Nargothrond
Angfauglith
AC Beleriand
Doriath
Nargothrond

GROUP H at Minas Morgul
Barad-Dur
Gondor
Minas Tirith
Mordor

The Team Rosters

Anduin
GK Amroth
DF Frumgar
DF Borondir
DF Celeborn
DF *Fram
MF Amdir
MF Lenwe
MF Leod
MF Haldir
MF *Boromir II
FW Grimbeorn

Angband
GK Carcharoth
DF Ulwarth
DF Uldor
DF Balrog #1
DF *Morgoth
MF Lorgan
MF Ulfast
MF Gelmir
MF Ulfang
FW Telvildo
FW *Ancalagon

Angfauglith
GK *Ungoliant
DF Borlach
DF Balrog #2
DF *Balrog #3
DF *Balrog #4
MF Gorgol
MF Haldir
MF Rian
MF Galdor
MF Gundor
FW Thuringwethil

Armenelos
GK *Tar Atanamir
DF Ar Zimrathan
DF Tar Palantir
DF *Tar Telperien
MF Ar Gimilzor
MF Tar Telemmaite
MF Tar Calmacil
MF Tar Ancalimon
MF Tar Miriel
FW Ar Adunakhor
FW *Ar Pharazon

Arnor
GK Arvedui
DF Earendur
DF Araval
DF Valandur
DF *Elendil
MF Elendur
MF Malvegil
MF Argeleb
MF Arantar
FW Araphor
FW *Isildur

Barad-Dur
GK Mumakil
DF Fellbeast #2
DF Fuinur
DF Gothmog II
DF *Mouth
MF Sangahyando
MF Herumor
MF Angamaite
MF Beruthiel
FW Castamir
FW *Sauron

AC Beleriand
GK Marach
DF Imlach
DF Rochallor
DF Ecthelion
DF *Fingolfin
MF Denethor
MF Ulrad
MF Bregolas
MF *Beren
FW Eol
FW **Feanor

Inter Beleriand
GK Turgon
DF Haldad
DF Brandir
DF Gorlim
DF Balrog #5
MF Forweg
MF Hunthor
MF Baragund
MF Haleth
FW Fingon
FW *Maedhros

Doriath
GK Dior
DF Galathil
DF Nimloth
DF Saeros
DF *Melian
MF Galadhon
MF Nellas
MF Daeron
MF Luthien
MF *Beleg
FW Mablung

Dwarves United
GK Bombur
DF Azaghal
DF Durin
DF Aule
DF *Celebrimbor
MF Thror
MF Thorin
MF Gamil Zirak
MF Gimli
MF Telchar
FW *Legolas

Erebor
GK *Beorn
DF Meneldor
DF Landroval
DF Girion
DF Gwaihir
MF Dain
MF Bolg
MF Bard
FW Nazgul #7
FW Thranduil
FW *Smaug

Eriador
GK *Elrond
DF Asfaloth
DF Araphant
DF Malbeth
DF *Gil-galad
MF Valandil
MF Arahael
MF Arassuil
MF Arveleg
FW *Glorfindel
FW Witch King

Gondolin
GK Rog
DF Pengolodh
DF Aranwe
DF Galdor
DF Egalmoth
MF Salgant
MF Meleth
MF Elemmakil
MF Duilin
FW *Gothmog
FW *Maeglin

Gondor
GK Hyarmendacil
DF Imrahil
DF Earnil I
DF Eldarion
MF Calimehtar
MF Ciryandil
MF Turambar
MF Falastur
MF Romendacil
MF *Anarion
FW Eldacar

Hithlum
GK Aradan
DF Grithnir
DF Arroch
DF Gethron
MF Androg
MF Sador
MF Morwen
MF Nienor
FW *Hurin
FW Hador
FW **Turin

Imladris
GK *Elros
DF Aranarth
DF Galdor
DF Erestor
DF *Varda
MF Gilraen
MF Figwit
MF Lindir
MF *Arwen
FW Elladan
FW Elrohir

Isengard
GK Ugluk
DF Caradhras
DF Mauhur
DF Treebeard
MF Lurtz
MF Freca
MF Lugdush
MF Wulf
MF Wormtongue
FW *Saruman
FW Quickbeam

Minas Tirith
GK Denethor II
DF Telumehtar
DF Ostoher
DF Ecthelion II
DF *Cirion
MF Earnil II
MF Tarandor
MF Earnur
MF Mardil
MF *Faramir
FW Boromir I

Misty Mts
GK Great Goblin
DF Watcher
DF Chief Wolf
DF Bert
DF Tom
MF William
MF Orophin
MF Rumil
MF Narvi
MF Azog
FW *Durin’s Bane

Mordor
GK Silent Watcher
DF Fellbeast #1
DF Nazgul #1
DF Grishnakh
DF *Nazgul #2
MF Gorbag
MF Nazgul #3
MF Shagrat
MF Nazgul #4
MF *Nazgul #5
FW Shelob

Nargothrond
GK Beor
DF Mim
DF Guillen
DF Arminas
DF Baran
MF Orodreth
MF Barahir
MF Finduilas
FW Gwindor
FW *Finrod
FW *Glaurung

Rohan
GK Theoden
DF Snowmane
DF Shadowfax
DF Radagast
DF *Felarof
MF Aldor
MF King Dead
MF Eomer
MF *Gandalf
FW Eorl
FW Helm

Shire-Bree United
GK Halbarad
DF Butterbur
DF Golfimbul
DF Nazgul #6
DF Gildor
MF Ferny
MF Bandobras
MF Barrow-Wight
MF *Khamul
FW *Bombadil
FW Strider

The Havens
GK Cirdan
DF Annael
DF Lindo
DF Elwing
DF Olwe
MF Earwen
MF Andreth
MF Angrod
MF Aegnor
FW *Earendil
FW Tuor

The Sea
GK *Voronwe
DF Osse
DF Salmar
DF Uinen
DF *Ulmo
MF Tar Cirytan
MF Eriol
MF Tar Meneldur
MF Veantur
MF Tar Aldarion
FW Tar Minastir

Tirion
GK Finarfin
DF Irime
DF Elenwe
DF Thorondor
MF Anaire
MF Findis
MF Mahtan
MF Ingwe
FW Aredhel
FW *Finwe
FW *Eonwe

Valimar
GK *Manwe
DF Amrod
DF Vana
DF Amras
DF *Namo
MF Este
MF Celebrian
MF Vaire
MF Alatar
MF Pallando
FW Ilmare

FC Valinor
GK *Huan
DF Penlod
DF Nahar
DF Indis
DF *Maglor
MF Irmo
MF Idril
MF Argon
MF Yavanna
FW Celegorm
FW *Curufin

Real Valinor
GK Tulkas
DF Rumil
DF Nienna
DF Caranthir
DF *Tilion
MF Elemmire
MF Enerdhil
MF Nessa
FW Nerdanel
FW *Miriel
FW *Arien

Wilderland
GK Great Warg
DF Finglas
DF Skinbark
DF Oropher
DF Beechbone
MF Galion
MF Fimbrethil
MF Elwe
MF *Galadriel
FW Orome
FW *Scatha

The Downer
GK Bubble Buddha
DF Morsul
DF Evil Mayo
DF Burnt Bert
DF *BWHimself
MF Peter Hampton
MF John Fillis
MF Lalwende MP
MF Hookbill
FW *Saucepan Man
FW Alien

Tol In Gaurhoth
GK *ShastaWolf
DF GaladriWight
DF GwathWight
DF BoroWight
DF *NilpWolf
MF LegateWight
MF AganWight
MF SallyWight
MF *PhantomWolf
FW NerWight
FW *NogWolf

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Ne, phantom-kun, how many players per team are allowed on the 100-million dollar squad? Still three?

[the phantom]

Ah, good spot, Nilp. I think we'll encourage diversity on the permanent salary squad- two players from one team.

I will edit the rules.

[Inziladun]

GK- *Elros (Imladris)
DF- *Morgoth (Angband)
DF-Thorondor (Tirion)
DF- Osse (The Sea)
DF- Durin (Dwarves United)
MF- Ingwe (Tirion)
MF- *Galadriel (Wilderland) (C)
MF- Hunthor (Inter Beleriand)
FW- *Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW- Fingon (Inter Beleriand)
FW- Thuringwethil (Angfauglith)

Most Goals In Tournament: Turin (Hithlum)
Most Assists In Tournament: Beren (AC Beleriand)
Team To Win Tournament: Real Valinor
Goalkeeper With Most Phantasy Points: Manwe (Valimar)
Defender With Most Phantasy Points: Morgoth (Angband)
Midfielder With Most Phantasy Points: Hurin (Hithlum)
Forward With Most Phantasy Points: Earendil (The Havens)

Stand by for other predictions and the Million Dollar team.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

No first round schedule yet, so I won't post a squad for now.

For 10:

Team Atashi no Negai
GK Carcaroth (Angband) - 12
DF Rúmil (Real Valinor) - 3
DF Asfaloth (Eriador) - 3
DF Imlach (AC Beleriand) - 3
DF Uldor (Angband) - 5
MF Argon (FC Valinor) - 6
MF *Beren (AC Beleriand) - 12
MF *Galadriel (Wilderland) - 15
FW *Glorfindel (Eriador) - 13
FW *Arien (Real Valinor) - 14
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor) - 14

Total - 100 (I think. )

For 5:

Goals: Fëanor (AC Beleriand)
Assists: Míriel (Real Valinor)
Winner: FC Valinor

Phantasy
GK: Carcaroth (Angband)
DF: Morgoth (Angband)
MF: Beren (AC Beleriand)
FW: Curufin (FC Valinor)

For 3+1:

(group: winner, runner-up)

A: Angband, Tol-in-Gaurhoth
B: Eriador, Gondolin
C: Wilderland, Erebor
D: FC Valinor, Real Valinor
E: The Sea, Hithlum
F: Rohan, Imladris
G: AC Beleriand, Nargothrond
H: Barad-dûr, Gondor
__________________

I might change my phantasy GK (I'm flip-flopping between Beorn and Carcaroth) but the others are all but locked.

EDIT: Changed Beorn to Carcaroth, Ulwarth to Imlach in my 100-million squad. Also, changed Beorn to Carcaroth as my phantasy GK.

[the phantom]

The first round of group play games...

Group A at Michel Delving
Angband vs The Downer
Shire-Bree United vs Tol In Gaurhoth

Group B at Weathertop
Inter Beleriand vs Gondolin
Arnor vs Eriador

Group C at Moria
Anduin vs Wilderland
Dwarves United vs Erebor

Group D at Armenelos
FC Valinor vs Real Valinor
Armenelos vs Tirion

Group E at Grey Havens
Hithlum vs The Sea
The Havens vs Valimar

Group F at Isengard
Imladris vs Rohan
Isengard vs Misty Mts

Group G at Nargothrond
AC Beleriand vs Doriath
Angfauglith vs Nargothrond

Group H at Minas Morgul
Barad-Dur vs Minas Tirith
Gondor vs Mordor

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Atashi no Negai
GK *Beorn (Erebor)
DF Malbeth (Eriador)
DF Uldor (Angband)
DF Gwaihir (Erebor)
DF Balrog #1 (Angband)
MF Tar-Ancalimon (Armenelos)
MF Tar-Míriel (Armenelos)
MF *PhantomWolf (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
FW *Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW *Ancalagon (Angband) (C)
FW Tar-Minastir (The Sea)

Still unsure about my back four and goalie, though.

[mormegil]

The Wrath of Monkey Stink

GK--Tulkas (The Real Valinor)
DF--Grishnakh (Mordor)
DF--Baran (Nargothrond)
DF--Galdor (Imladris)
DF--Gethron (Hithlum)
MF--Elemmakil (Gondolin)
MF--Wulf (Isengard)
MF *Anarion (Gondor)
MF--Pallando (Valimar)
FW--*Miriel (Real Valinor)
FW--**Turin (Hithlum) (C)

Predictions upcoming...

[mormegil]

Who will score the most goals in the tournament? Turin
Who will have the most assists in the tournament? Anarion
Which team will win the tournament? Hithlum
Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Elros
Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Maglor
Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Phantomwolf
Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Turin

[Galadriel55]

Idle Leaves

GK *Ungoliant (Anfauglith)
DF Ecthelion (AC Beleriand)
DF *Cirion (Minas Tirith)
DF Caradhras (Isengard)
DF Celeborn (Anduin)
MF Gilraen (Imladris)
MF Barrow Wight (SBU)
MF Nienor (Hithlum)
FW Gwindor (Nargothrond)
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor)
FW *Finwe (Tirion) (C)


Oooof! I almost forgot what a tiresome business making a team can be! Predictions to come later.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hello people! Without further ado, here I am, joining this cozy little group (blame Mr. Noggins).

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Oooof! I almost forgot what a tiresome business making a team can be! Predictions to come later.

I had no idea what a difficult business it is, and indeed I must concur. This took a while. But the basic team I have, yes, precious. All the rest coming in due time. For now... I present you...

Handy Hippies

GK Uglúk (Isengard)
DF Frumgar (Anduin)
DF Mauhúr (Isengard)
DF Watcher in da Water (Misty Mts)
DF Radagast (Rohan)
MF Tar-Míriel (Armenelos)
MF Estë (Valimar)
MF Gorbag (Mordor)
MF *Galadriel (Wilderland)
MF *Khamul (Shire-Bree United)
FW *Saruman (Isengard) -> C

I think this should work according to the rules... but since this is the first time I'm doing this, in case I did something illegal somewhere, feel free to correct me... but I think not.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Legate-san! Welcome to this product of phantom's imagination/simulation!!!

Since you're the first new player to sign, you (or rather LegateWight will be TiG's last midfielder, I think.

Btw, your squad is legal, but you have one extra star you can use. (You're not required to use it though, but stars are shiny.)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Thank'ee, Nilp-san! I know I'd have one more star, but with my choices, I was going by simply picking people I like (or I found interesting to add), and I might alter stuff in the future, depending on their performance. I will save making a "strong" team for the 100million-team, this one I will probably mostly follow just out of curiosity to see how those particular people (or "people") do

Btw, random question: when you are changing your team in the future, can you also change the captain? (And if so, does it count into the maximum number of choices etc.?)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Yes, you can change your captain any number of times and, no, it doesn't count towards your transfer limit.

[Galadriel55]

Who will score the most goals in the tournament?
Turin

Who will have the most assists in the tournament?
Miriel

Which team will win the tournament?
FC Valinor

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
Elrond

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
Namo

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
Beleg

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
Finwe

Group predictions (winner/runner up)

A: Angband/TIG
B: Gondolin/Eriador
C: Wilderland/Anduin
D: Real Valinor/Tirion
E: Hithlum/Valimar
F: Isengard/Misty Mts
G: AC Beleriand/Anfauglith
H: Minas Tirith/Mordor

[Galadriel55]

10 points

GK: ShastaWolf - TIG (10)
DF: Rochallor - AC Beleriand (2)
DF: Asfaloth - Eriador (3)
DF: Caradhras - Isengard (10)
DF: Namo - Valimar (14)
MF: Ulrad - AC Beleriand (4)
MF: Nienor - Hithlum (6)
MF: Galadriel - Wilderland (15)
FW: Mablung - Doriath (12)
FW: Finwe - Tirion (10)
FW: Arien - Real Valinor (14)

I think that makes 100...

[mormegil]

Monkey's Dream Team


GK Elros (15)
DF Asfaloth (3)
DF Beechbone (3)
DF Ulwarth (5)
MF Thorin (5)
MF Tar Aldarion (8)
MF Figwit (4)
MF PhantomWolf (10)
FW Miriel (14)
FW Turin (24)
FW Shelob (9)

[mormegil]

Group A--Tol-in-Gaurhoth/Angband
Group B--Eriador/Gondolin
Group C--Wilderland/Dwarves United
Group D--Real Valinor/Armenelos
Group E--Hithlum/Valimar
Group F --Imladris/Rohan
Group G--Doriath/AC Beleriand
Group H--Mordor/ Barad-Dur

[Inziladun]

GK- Carcaroth (Angband) 12
DF- Tar Palantir (Armenelos) 7
DF- Durin (Dwarves United) 8
DF- Caradhras (Isengard) 10
DF- Elwing (The Havens) 6
MF- Galadriel (Wilderland) 15
MF- Narvi (Misty Mtns) 6
MF- Idril (FC Valinor) 10
FW- Tar Minastir (The Sea) 15
FW- Saucepan Man (The Downer) 6
FW- NerWight (TIG) 5

Total: 100

[Inziladun]

Group A: Angband / TIG
Group B: Inter Beleriand / Gondolin
Group C: Wilderland / Dwarves United
Group D: Real Valinor / Tirion
Group E: The Sea / Valimar
Group F: Isengard / Misty Mtns
Group G: AC Beleriand / Angfauglith
Group H: Barad-Dur / Minas Tirith

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

GK Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos) 13
DF Tar-Palantír (Armenelos) 7
DF Brandir (Inter Beleriand) 1
DF Fellbeast #1 (Mordor) 1
MF Rían (Anfauglith) 2
MF Khamul (Shire-Bree) 11
MF Estë (Valimar) 10
MF Galadriel (Wilderland) 15
FW NerWight (TiG) 5
FW Saruman (Isengard) 15
FW Gothmog (Gondolin) 20

I am pretty bad at maths, but I think the result should be 100.

Just out of curiosity, how do you (whichever of you is tasked with doing it) decide who is defender, who is forward etc.? Is it the same every year?

(I am saying that because - as I have noticed already when picking the "normal" team - if I could, I would make my team completely out of midfielders, since basically the best characters and the ones I'd like to have in my team are all there. Not that I like the others less, but when making this one, I have more than once encountered the situation where I would've put an absolutely perfect character into my team, who would perfectly fit point-wise, only had he/she been a defender instead of midfielder.)

GROUP PREDICTIONS

Group A: Shire-Bree/TiG
Group B: Eriador/Gondolin
Group C: Erebor/Wilderland
Group D: Armenelos/Real Valinor
Group E: Valimar/The Sea
Group F: Imladris/Rohan
Group G: Anfauglith/Doriath
Group H: Minas Tirith/Gondor

The questions I am leaving for the latest, because I know nothing whatsoever about the people, so I will mostly make a random shot anyway, but I will look at them first again too...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Just out of curiosity, how do you (whichever of you is tasked with doing it) decide who is defender, who is forward etc.? Is it the same every year?

The phantom is. And it is not the same every year, even if there are some "constants" - like Fëanor, Túrin, Ar Pharazôn and Miriel I think have all been forwards every year and Elrond and Huan have been goalkeepers - and probably many others have a consistent place in the formations. But some kind of sail around trying different posts, like Elros who was scoring & feeding Ar Pharazôn last year but has now come back to his original post as a goalie, or Melian who has both tended the goal and led the defences (surprise), Or Curufin and Celegorm who tended to play defence but then required a post in the attack and proved so good last year that they continue as forwards this year; Galadriel I think has been a goalie, a defender and a midfielder, but probably not a forward...

Some of the reasons for their places in the formation are pretty obvious (Fëanor attacks, Melian defends), some I think are "historical" - as to how they fare in one year or kind of "storywise" (depending on what kind of "fellowships" are formed) etc. If you have any specific questions, ask tp.

[McCaber]

Alright, I want in.

GK: *Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
DF: Balrog #1 (Angband)
DF: Ecthelion (AC Beleriand)
DF: Nienna (Real Valinor)
DF: Gwaihir (Erebor)
MF: Elwe (Wilderland)
MF: Beruthiel (Barad-dur)
MF: *Phantomwolf (TIG)
FW: *Hurin (Hithlum)
FW: *Maedhros (Inter Beleriand)
FW: Witch King (Eriador)

Hoo boy, if I wasn't such a Maedhros fanboy I'd really be doubting his ability to pull through here. And Armenelos has a major struggle with the group they've been saddled with, but I think they've got the mojo to make it.

Picks:
Group A: Angband/TIG
Group B: Eriador/Inter Beleriand
Group C: Wilderland/Erebor
Group D: FC Valinor/Armenelos
Group E: Hithlum/The Sea
Group F: Rohan/Imladris
Group G: AC Beleriand/Nargothrond
Group H: Barad-dur/Gondor

Most goals: Turin. The man's got a foot.
Most assists: Beren
Winner: AC Beleriand
Best GK: Carcaroth
Best MF: Beren
Best FW: Turin.

[Eönwë]

Just wanted to make it clear that yes, I'm up for this! I don't know when the deadline is, but I don't have much time now, so I'll get my team up when I can.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

The phantom is. And it is not the same every year, even if there are some "constants" - like Fëanor, Túrin, Ar Pharazôn and Miriel I think have all been forwards every year and Elrond and Huan have been goalkeepers - and probably many others have a consistent place in the formations. But some kind of sail around trying different posts, like Elros who was scoring & feeding Ar Pharazôn last year but has now come back to his original post as a goalie, or Melian who has both tended the goal and led the defences (surprise), Or Curufin and Celegorm who tended to play defence but then required a post in the attack and proved so good last year that they continue as forwards this year; Galadriel I think has been a goalie, a defender and a midfielder, but probably not a forward...

Some of the reasons for their places in the formation are pretty obvious (Fëanor attacks, Melian defends), some I think are "historical" - as to how they fare in one year or kind of "storywise" (depending on what kind of "fellowships" are formed) etc. If you have any specific questions, ask tp.

All right, I see. Fine, I think that's all I wanted to know (or even more, but great ).

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Just wanted to make it clear that yes, I'm up for this! I don't know when the deadline is, but I don't have much time now, so I'll get my team up when I can.

Yay! Great to have you here (and McCaber too) So I'm not alone having been talked to this

[Boromir88]

Let me make sure I have this straight. We have our normal phantasy team which we can make trades and changes to, as we have in past phantasy cups?

But also "buy a team" with a max-100 million salary, that doesn't change at all.

[the phantom]

Bingo, Boro.

And excellent to see McCaber and Eönwë back!

And Legate of course. We've been waiting years for you to join this thing.

[McCaber]

$100 Million Special
GK: Carcaroth (Angband) - 12
DF: Guilen (Nargothrond) - 6
DF: Tar Palantir (Armenelos) - 7
DF: Oropher (Wilderland) - 5
MF: Beren (AC Beleriand) - 10
MF: Nienor (Hithlum) - 7
MF: Felarof (Rohan) - 5
MF: Haleth (Inter Beleriand) - 7
FW: Curufin (FC Valinor) - 14
FW: Miriel (Real Valinor) - 14
FW: Witch King (Eriador) - 13

Total: 100

[Boromir88]

The North Remembers
GK- *Elrond (Eriador) - C
DF- Gwaihir (Erebor)
DF- Radagast (Rohan)
DF- Balrog #1 (Angband)
DF- Ecthelion (AC Beleriand)
MF- Tar Aldarion (The Sea)
MF- Duiln (Gondolin)
MF- *Phantomwolf (TIG)
FW- Telvildo (Angband)
FW- *Ar Pharazon (Armenolos)
FW- *Sauron (Barad Dur)

PREDICTIONS:

Most goals: Curufin
Most assists: Beren
Winner: Eriador
Best GK: Elrond
Best DF: Ulmo
Best MF: Gandalf
Best FW: Feanor

GROUPS: (Winner/Runner up)

A: Tol In Gaurhoth/Angband
B: Eriador/Gondolin
C: Erebor/Anduin
D: Real Valinor/FC Valinor
E: The Sea/Hithlum
F: Rohan/Isengard
G: AC Beleriand/Nargothrond
H: Gondor/Barad Dur

Edit: changed Group H winner from Minas Tirith to Gondor.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

GROUP A at Michel Delving
1. Tol-In-Gaurhoth
2. Angband

GROUP B at Weathertop
1. Eriador
2. Gondolin

GROUP C at Moria
1. Erebor
2. Wilderland

GROUP D at Armenelos
1. FC Valinor
2. Armenelos

GROUP E at Grey Havens
1. Valimar
2. Hithlum

GROUP F at Isengard
1. Imladris
2. Rohan

GROUP G at Nargothrond
1. Angfauglith
2. AC Beleriand

GROUP H at Minas Morgul
1. Barad-Dur
2. Mordor

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Who will score the most goals in the tournament? Feanor (AC Beleriand)

Who will have the most assists in the tournament? Beren (AC Beleriand)

Which team will win the tournament? AC Beleriand

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Ungoliant (Angfauglith)

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Balrog #3 (Angfauglith)

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Beren (AC Beleriand)

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Feanor (AC Beleriand)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Who will score the most goals in the tournament? Smaug

Who will have the most assists in the tournament? Eol

Which team will win the tournament? Armenelos

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Ungoliant

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Ulmo

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Galadriel

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Ancalagon

Originally Posted by the phantom

And Legate of course. We've been waiting years for you to join this thing.

You're welcome. So I am here. (Or, in other words... *points at the post title* )

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

GK- *Ungoliant (Angfauglith)

DF- Balrog#2 (Angfauglith)
DF- Gothmog#2 (Barad-Dur)
DF- Gwaihir (Erebor)
DF- Grishnakh (Mordor)

MF- *Beren (AC Beleriand)
MF- Nienor (Hithlum)
MF- Este (Valimar)

FW- **Feanor (AC Beleriand) (C)
FW- Celegorm (FC Valinor)
FW- Shelob (Mordor)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Yeah, so before some of you have even a chance to post a roster, I've already edited mine. (Also, I've edited some of my predictions and my dream team.)

Atashi no Negai
GK Carcaroth (Angband)
DF Malbeth (Eriador)
DF Gwaihir (Erebor)
DF Girion (Erebor)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
MF Tar-Ancalimon (Armenelos)
MF Tar-Míriel (Armenelos)
MF *PhantomWolf (Tol-in-Gaurhoth) (C)
FW *Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW *Ancalagon (Angband)
FW Tar-Minastir (The Sea)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Hrm, I'll re-jig Kamikaze Warg-Storm Frostdemon Apocalypse into a lesser form in order to meet the criteria. Let's see:

GK- Aradan (Hithlum) 5

DF- Snowmane (Rohan) 3
DF- Gothmog#2 (Barad-Dur) 6
DF- Gwaihir (Erebor) 10
DF- Grishnakh (Mordor) 5

MF- *Beren (AC Beleriand) 12
MF- Nienor (Hithlum) 6
MF- Celebrian (Valimar) 8

FW- **Feanor (AC Beleriand) (C) 22
FW- Celegorm (FC Valinor) 13
FW- Shelob (Mordor) 9



So there we have it! Let's see if I can win this year, at the fourth (or fifth?) time of asking.

[Kuruharan]

I am displeased that because of the no more than two players from one team rule destroys my plan of having a team composed solely of dwarves.

In lieu of this I’m going to be as unbalanced as I possibly can in favor of offense…hopefully to the point of being absolutely, jibberingly unhinged. After…almost no thought whatsoever, I have decided to make my initial team for Phantasy my bought team as well. I record it here twice for Official Purposes (and hopefully succeed in putting a new spin on the old phrase of “I have some swamp land to sell you”).

Kuruharan’s Offensive Fever Swamp
GK Mumakil
DF Frumgar
DF Borondir
DF Haldad
DF Gorlim
MF Luthien
MF Yavanna
MF Aegnor
FW Finrod*
FW Turin** C
FW Sauron*

Kuruharan’s Bought and Paid for Offensive Fever Swamp
GK Mumakil (1)
DF Frumgar (2)
DF Borondir (2)
DF Haldad (1)
DF Gorlim (1)
MF Luthien (14)
MF Yavanna (10)
MF Aegnor (10)
FW Finrod* (14)
FW Turin** (24) C
FW Sauron* (21)

And for those who will point out that there are some obviously loony choices that would have made it “better”, please remember that I am throttled by the star system and the salary cap. Hopefully I will have the ability to get crazier with my Phantasy team as things progress. Believe me I would happily field a team composed completely of forwards and spend a billion dollars…or pounds…or euros…or yuan or whatever currency it is we are using with a combined ego the size of the galaxy.

I will post my answers to the questions later tonight when I have more time.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Phantom, my man, I'm nipping over to your side of the pond tomorrow; so if I've messed something up then I'm afraid I'll just have to suffer for a while!

Eomer? In... America?

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Phantom, my man, I'm nipping over to your side of the pond tomorrow; so if I've messed something up then I'm afraid I'll just have to suffer for a while!

Eomer? In... America?

Is it possibly Eomer...in Boston? Because there currently is a Boro...in Boston who would be ecstatic to meet an Eomer.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Right. phantom, do we have star limits on our 100-million squad? I have five in mine, so if there is, and it's four, I'll just drop Galadriel for her grandfather-in-law. But I laboured under the delusion that the only limit for that XI is the formation, the number of players from a certain team, and, of course, the salary.

In other news, possible Warg sighting in the New World!!! (Absolutely bovvered to be on the wrong side of the puddle.)