Werewolf LXXII: Now There's the Truth of It! (Game Thread) - Page 13 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

alonariel · 02-09-2010, 08:32 PM

Vote Count

Brinn:
Izzy
Zil
Form

Steve:
Zil
Izzy
Form
Fea

Wilwa:
Zil
Fea
Form
Nerwen

Nerwen:
Zil
Brinn

Nog:
Zil
Form
Izzy
Rune

Form:
Zil
Fea
Izzy
Nerwen

Lottie:
Nerwen
Fea

* * *

Izzy - 4
Zil - 6
Form - 4
Fea - 4
Nerwen - 3
Brinn - 1
Lottie - 0
Nog - 0
Rune - 1
Steve - 0
Wilwa - 0

satansaloser2005 · 02-09-2010, 08:32 PM

Nog, I love you. Just so's you know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nog

Take care you don't leave four unvoted persons as then we have no lynch. (when will the numbers change Sally?)

Now. Nog is down two points per Simon.

Loslote · 02-09-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Nog, I love you. Just so's you know.

Now. Nog is down two points per Simon.

Wait - down two points? I forgot that was allowed...so he's got negative votes?

wilwarin538 · 02-09-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Tic tac toe?

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satansaloser2005 · 02-09-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

Wait - down two points? I forgot that was allowed...so he's got negative votes?

Yup.

Wilwa, top right corner. ^_^

Isabellkya · 02-09-2010, 08:34 PM

I'm not voting for Loslote, and I doubt I will vote for Wilwa

If you happen to make it toMorrow Loslote. Would be nice if you addressed some more questions posed to you. As to how people have moved on your list, and why you trust people. Fallen in a vat of oil lately?

X'd since Sally's #480.

Brinniel · 02-09-2010, 08:35 PM

Hmm...wilwa's last post doesn't sit with me too well. Hasn't she made a similar defense as a wolf before? Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong person. But nevertheless, it's ringing my alarm bells. Her post just doesn't feel genuine to me.

++Rune

No idea what his role might be, but he hasn't really gotten a chance to play toDay and for now, I'd rather hear more from him than see him go.

EDIT: By last post, I mean #473. Major x-posting here.

Loslote · 02-09-2010, 08:35 PM

Sorry. Will run back and find those questions.

EDIT: xed with Brinn

Feanor of the Peredhil · 02-09-2010, 08:36 PM

++Steve
++Wilwa

Izzy - 4
Zil - 6
Form - 4
Fea - 4
Nerwen - 3
Brinn - 1
Lottie - 0
Nog - -2
Rune - 2
Steve - 1
Wilwa - 1

Nerwen · 02-09-2010, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Supposing I'd be a wolf (and supposing then also that Lottie would be my mate).

I'd probably have posted when I got online around 10PM (my time), said I was in a hurry, noted some "suspicious things"... then making a few nice words of you, Fea, Brinn, Izzy, Inzil etc... (to gain enough good will even if you disagreed with my negligence of talking about Lottie)... Then I'd have said it's just too late and I need to go - voting for confidence to those whom I thought were the leaders of the popular opinion. And I would be sleeping already.

Or I could have made a fervent defence of Lottie just for the sport of it.

Or you'd have tried to cut ties with her, but then perhaps tried to sow suspicion about as many other people as you could– oh, wait, you just did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I've played alone as a wolf against a whole village once and that was enough for me - and there was no seer left there. I managed a few Days but it was hopeless and doomed.

Mmmn. I agree it wouldn't be fun. My point is that, supposing you were a wolf and Lottie– or, for that matter, Wilwa– your comrade, you'd know it still wasn't worth the risk of trying to save her.

Besides, there are a number of people in this village right now who have managed to win as lone wolves, sometimes with gifteds still around. And seers can be eaten at Night.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And anyway: haven't I been controversial enough for the seer to check me? Would I do that as a wolf? That would be a death sentence.

Not necessarily– but anyway I don't recall you were "controversial" at all most of this game.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Just out of curiosity: were you a wolf Nerwen, how would you have played differently?

Why, looking for tips?

EDIT:X'd with vast hordes.

Isabellkya · 02-09-2010, 08:37 PM

So Nog will be lynched, unless multiple people vote for him?

X'd with Nerwen.

wilwarin538 · 02-09-2010, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote

1. What? I was the first one to even mention a Wilwa-suspicion, and now I'm hoppin on a bandwaggon?

2. Nice excuse. You've used it before. Are you really going to stick with meta-reasoning as your excuse?

3. That jumps out at me as a "oh I'm innocent don't lynch me" type statement. Don't tell us, show us.

EDIT: xed since Wilwa

1. Your first post you said I looked bad but then said you still felt I was innocent and wanted to trust me.
2. I've used it before this game cause that is the reason, I'm not gonna just make one up, and since that's all people seem to have on me of course I'll defend it.
3. Show you? How exactly do you want me to do that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Hmm...wilwa's last post doesn't sit with me too well. Hasn't she made a similar defense as a wolf before? Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong person. But nevertheless, it's ringing my alarm bells. Her post just doesn't feel genuine to me.

Probably, haven't been a wolf in a rediculously long time (possibly not even since Sally's last game).

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(Nog, I fixed the quote mistake, sorry about that)

Loslote · 02-09-2010, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Okay. After Form's explanation toDay I think we can treat him and Zil as semi-known innocents, unless some really spectacular revelation occurs.

Or, by extension, Nogrod (doesn't look too good to me in his own right, either).

I actually thought Lottie's Nienna-the-pseudo-Seer was a reasonable sort of theory at the time... but after the curious logical gymnastics that she used in her analysis of Glirdan, in which Form came out "pretty bad" for some reason, yet Nogrod remained pure as the driven snow... well.

Of course, if they are indeed packmates, Nogrod's now busy throwing Lottie under the bus, but what does that prove?

Form came out "semi-bad" for the same reason I noticed Wilwa, but nothing else looks bad. In fact, mostly he looks absolutely innocent, so I focused on Wilwa and moved Form back to "probably innocent".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Well, you're right in that the flip-flop came after she looked at Glirdan, but she doesn't explain in that analysis why Form looks bad again.

No, he doesn't get a free pass, even though I'm leaning toward thinking him more innocent than not. It's still odd that Nog and Rune were so quick to vote for him after the narrative in which he killed Pitch, though.

See above. Was that all, Izzy?

EDIT: xed since my last

satansaloser2005 · 02-09-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wilwarin538

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I said top right you silly thing. Unless I'm X's?

wilwarin538 · 02-09-2010, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I said top right you silly thing. Unless I'm X's?

haha, sorry I noticed it and fixed it, tic tac fail

satansaloser2005 · 02-09-2010, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

haha, sorry I noticed it and fixed it, tic tac fail

Are you saying my breath smells? Watch it, little miss.

Bottom right, of course.

Loslote · 02-09-2010, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

1. Your first post you said I looked bad but then said you still felt I was innocent and wanted to trust me.
2. I've used it before this game cause that is the reason, I'm not gonna just make one up, and since that's all people seem to have on me of course I'll defend it.
3. Show you? How exactly do you want me to do that?

Probably, haven't been a wolf in a rediculously long time (possibly not even since Sally's last game).

1. No, I said I didn't want to suspect you but I did.

2. Okay, but...meta? Seriously?

3. Act innocent. Don't make us suspect you. Acting suspicious and then saying "no, no! I'm innocent!" is not going to cut it.

Pre-edit: xed since my last.

wilwarin538 · 02-09-2010, 08:46 PM

X|_|O
_|X|X
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I fail at this game...

and I'm sure your breath smells lovely my dear Moddess

satansaloser2005 · 02-09-2010, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

X|_|O
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I fail at this game...

and I'm sure your breath smells lovely my dear Moddess

Good answer, my minion.

Middle left. We're gonna have a draw.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 02-09-2010, 08:48 PM

I am here. . . sorry sorry sorry for not being here, things have been weird´today. I don't have time to read through everything. . . so if anybody wan't to give me some highlights on todays action it would be nice!

Anyways I will return shortly with a post.

Isabellkya · 02-09-2010, 08:48 PM

I don't like how it looks like Loslote is just going to semi-skate through toDay.
I feel like something is going on, and I'm just not getting it.
Plgh.

++Nerwen
++Inziladun

X'd with everything after #496.

wilwarin538 · 02-09-2010, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote

1. No, I said I didn't want to suspect you but I did.

2. Okay, but...meta? Seriously?

3. Act innocent. Don't make us suspect you. Acting suspicious and then saying "no, no! I'm innocent!" is not going to cut it.

Pre-edit: xed since my last.

Like no one's ever used Meta before. It's not like I'm saying "Oh him and I talked on the phone and he seemed to sound innocent", that would be unfair...I'm sure people who don't even know each other in RL have tried to trust people they usually suspect in games. I don't really see it as anything unusual. Not really different then you saying Day 1 that Pitch wasn't acting agreeable, so he wasn't a wolf. I see that as Meta as well.

Me acting innocent seems to always be what gets me suspicion.

wilwarin538 · 02-09-2010, 08:50 PM

X|_|O
O|X|X
_|X|O

Yes, I think we will, unless you let an unpopular girl win?

Loslote · 02-09-2010, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Like no one's ever used Meta before. It's not like I'm saying "Oh him and I talked on the phone and he seemed to sound innocent", that would be unfair...I'm sure people who don't even know each other in RL have tried to trust people they usually suspect in games. I don't really see it as anything unusual. Not really different then you saying Day 1 that Pitch wasn't acting agreeable, so he wasn't a wolf. I see that as Meta as well.

Me acting innocent seems to always be what gets me suspicion.

Okay, on Day 1. But by Day 2 you should have a better feel for someone!

EDIT: xed with Miss Tic

satansaloser2005 · 02-09-2010, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

X|_|O
O|X|X
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Yes, I think we will, unless you let an unpopular girl win?

Top middle. Not a chance, my love.

alonariel · 02-09-2010, 08:52 PM

Izzy - 4
Zil - 7
Form - 4
Fea - 4
Nerwen - 4
Brinn - 1
Lottie - 0
Nog - -2
Rune - 2
Steve - 1
Wilwa - 1

Isabellkya · 02-09-2010, 08:54 PM

It seems awfully quiet for the last handful of minutes.

Inziladun · 02-09-2010, 08:54 PM

Getting back later than I'd planned and having to very quickly skim through.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

So... I have a theory.

As to why nobody died last night.

Cursed villager.

I think we might have another bad guy.

Well, doesn't look as if a confirmation or denial of that from our Moddess is forthcoming. I see no way of knowing the truth of the matter just now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Failing a sudden gifted reveal or something, I don't think I'll be voting for Lottie, Nog or Wilwa. The odds that no member of that trio is a wolf don't look good to me.

I honestly am nervous suspecting Lottie because my read of her has been terrible in the past. I do think she looks worse than the other two there.

I found something from Glirdan that might reflect positively on Steve and Nerwen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glirdan

Now on to Nog's list of last minute votes for Izzy at the end of the Day.

It is highly unlikely that there is no Wolf in that group, and out of all four, Eonwe and Nerwen stand out the most for their lack of reasoning. Nerwen's vote was the last of the Day and the deciding vote on who was to be lynched. Yet Eonwe voted with a mere explanation of "he's more suspicious." Care to explain why you thought so?

Certainly wolf-on-wolf is not out of the question there, but it seems unwarranted and reckless to me, if that's what it was.

++Nerwen- for that and my reasons from before.

++Brinn- Her words before DL yesterDay, which is mostly why I wanted to save her, make me believe she's probably innocent.

Loslote · 02-09-2010, 08:54 PM

*sigh* Might as well...

++Brinn
++Form

EDIT: xed with Izzy and Zil

Rune Son of Bjarne · 02-09-2010, 08:54 PM

++Lottie
++Brinn
++Steve
++Wilwa

This is called devine intervention. . .explanation will follow tomorrow. . .hopefully

wilwarin538 · 02-09-2010, 08:55 PM

X|O|O
O|X|X
X|X|O

I have more groups of 2 beside each other then you do, so I think I win.

Quote:

Okay, on Day 1. But by Day 2 you should have a better feel for someone!

Well, I'll just have to keep that in mind for the future then. *makes note in notebook: no meta after Day 1*.

Nerwen · 02-09-2010, 08:55 PM

Okay, then.

++Rune

And one last... let me see...

EDIT:x'd with everyone again.

alonariel · 02-09-2010, 08:56 PM

Izzy - 4
Zil - 7
Form - 5
Fea - 4
Nerwen - 5
Brinn - 4
Lottie - 1
Nog - -2
Rune - 3
Steve - 2
Wilwa - 2

satansaloser2005 · 02-09-2010, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

X|O|O
O|X|X
X|X|O

I have more groups of 2 beside each other then you do, so I think I win.

Well, I'll just have to keep that in mind for the future then. *makes note in notebook: no meta after Day 1*.

I can smite you with an epic smite. Just sayin'. Who wins again?

Nerwen · 02-09-2010, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

This is called devine intervention. . .explanation will follow tomorrow. . .hopefully

wilwarin538 · 02-09-2010, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I can smite you with an epic smite. Just sayin'. Who wins again?

Both of us, cause we are so wonderful *snuggles*

Loslote · 02-09-2010, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Well, I'll just have to keep that in mind for the future then. *makes note in notebook: no meta after Day 1*.

Hey, that's a good rule of thumb. Hakon, for example, has been lynched more times than I can count for using meta after Day 1...not that that has ever stopped him, so possibly not the best example.

EDIT: xed with many and have to run.

satansaloser2005 · 02-09-2010, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

++Lottie
++Brinn
++Steve
++Wilwa

This is called devine intervention. . .explanation will follow tomorrow. . .hopefully

Grape or tomato?

Isabellkya · 02-09-2010, 08:59 PM

Do I have to use my last two votes?
Ihoneslty don't know whom to vote for?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 02-09-2010, 08:59 PM

++Nerwen
++Zil

02-09-2010, 08:32 PM	#481
alonariel Wight Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Boston has my heart Posts: 238	Vote Count Brinn: Izzy Zil Form Steve: Zil Izzy Form Fea Wilwa: Zil Fea Form Nerwen Nerwen: Zil Brinn Nog: Zil Form Izzy Rune Form: Zil Fea Izzy Nerwen Lottie: Nerwen Fea * * * Izzy - 4 Zil - 6 Form - 4 Fea - 4 Nerwen - 3 Brinn - 1 Lottie - 0 Nog - 0 Rune - 1 Steve - 0 Wilwa - 0 __________________ "Puddle! Puddle! Oh, snow! Future puddle!"

02-09-2010, 08:34 PM	#486
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	I'm not voting for Loslote, and I doubt I will vote for Wilwa If you happen to make it toMorrow Loslote. Would be nice if you addressed some more questions posed to you. As to how people have moved on your list, and why you trust people. Fallen in a vat of oil lately? X'd since Sally's #480. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

02-09-2010, 08:35 PM	#487
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 3,027	Hmm...wilwa's last post doesn't sit with me too well. Hasn't she made a similar defense as a wolf before? Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong person. But nevertheless, it's ringing my alarm bells. Her post just doesn't feel genuine to me. ++Rune No idea what his role might be, but he hasn't really gotten a chance to play toDay and for now, I'd rather hear more from him than see him go. EDIT: By last post, I mean #473. Major x-posting here. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

02-09-2010, 08:35 PM	#488
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,032	Sorry. Will run back and find those questions. EDIT: xed with Brinn __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

02-09-2010, 08:36 PM	#489
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,956	++Steve ++Wilwa Izzy - 4 Zil - 6 Form - 4 Fea - 4 Nerwen - 3 Brinn - 1 Lottie - 0 Nog - -2 Rune - 2 Steve - 1 Wilwa - 1 __________________ peace Last edited by Feanor of the Peredhil; 02-09-2010 at 08:37 PM. Reason: editing in Brinn's vote

02-09-2010, 08:37 PM	#491
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	So Nog will be lynched, unless multiple people vote for him? X'd with Nerwen. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

02-09-2010, 08:46 PM	#498
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,661	X\|_\|O _\|X\|X _\|_\|O I fail at this game... and I'm sure your breath smells lovely my dear Moddess __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

02-09-2010, 08:48 PM	#501
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	I don't like how it looks like Loslote is just going to semi-skate through toDay. I feel like something is going on, and I'm just not getting it. Plgh. ++Nerwen ++Inziladun X'd with everything after #496. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

02-09-2010, 08:50 PM	#503
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,661	X\|_\|O O\|X\|X _\|X\|O Yes, I think we will, unless you let an unpopular girl win? __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

02-09-2010, 08:52 PM	#506
alonariel Wight Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Boston has my heart Posts: 238	Izzy - 4 Zil - 7 Form - 4 Fea - 4 Nerwen - 4 Brinn - 1 Lottie - 0 Nog - -2 Rune - 2 Steve - 1 Wilwa - 1 __________________ "Puddle! Puddle! Oh, snow! Future puddle!"

02-09-2010, 08:54 PM	#507
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	It seems awfully quiet for the last handful of minutes. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

02-09-2010, 08:54 PM	#509
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,032	sigh Might as well... ++Brinn ++Form EDIT: xed with Izzy and Zil __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

02-09-2010, 08:55 PM	#512
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,701	Okay, then. ++Rune And one last... let me see... EDIT:x'd with everyone again. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

02-09-2010, 08:56 PM	#513
alonariel Wight Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Boston has my heart Posts: 238	Izzy - 4 Zil - 7 Form - 5 Fea - 4 Nerwen - 5 Brinn - 4 Lottie - 1 Nog - -2 Rune - 3 Steve - 2 Wilwa - 2 __________________ "Puddle! Puddle! Oh, snow! Future puddle!"

02-09-2010, 08:59 PM	#519
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Do I have to use my last two votes? Ihoneslty don't know whom to vote for? __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

02-09-2010, 08:59 PM	#520
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,956	++Nerwen ++Zil __________________ peace