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Nevfeniel · 10-09-2002, 05:08 PM

Okay, for English class, we have to do a project about a book we're reading. I'm reading Unfinished Tales. We have to write a letter to the drama teacher trying to persuade her to turn our book into a play, and we also have to turn in a 3D diagram of what the stage would look like during the climax of the story.
Now, here's where I need your help:
1) In the story about Túrin and Nienor, which would you call the climax: when Glaurung is finally killed, or when Nienor finds out who she and Túrin really are?
and
2) What exactly do they look like? Do they have dark hair? I got very confused about Nienor when I read this from the book:

Quote:

"Brown as a berry she was, dark was her hair; small and slim as an Elf-child, none could mistake her!"
Then Mablung was amazed, and he said, "But some mistake is here. Not such was your sister. She was tall, and her eyes were blue, her hair fine gold, the very likeness in woman's form of Húrin her father."

I would be forever grateful if someone could help me with this.

Ar-Luman · 10-09-2002, 06:23 PM

It would depend on what you like. Me, I would go when Turin killed Glaurung because I like battle scenes, but for someone who is more into romance I would go with the latter of the two.

Nar · 10-09-2002, 08:20 PM

1)When Nienor and Turin find out the truth about each other, that's when the curse is fulfilled. I would call that the climax, from the dragon's revelation to Nienor through Turin's suicide.

2)Turin was lying to test Mablung when he said Nienor was brown as a berry-- he wanted to be absolutely sure that Mablung was talking about the woman Turin knew as his wife, so he pretended to think she was brown as a berry to see if Mablung was sure that Nienor was blonde-- when Mablung corrected him with the right description Turin became sure that they were talking about the same person. So then Turin was finally convinced he'd married his sister, and he despaired. Up until then he was hoping there was some mistake.

Turin himself was tall and had black hair. I think he took after his mother. He was stubborn like her too.

[ October 09, 2002: Message edited by: Nar ]

Nevfeniel · 10-09-2002, 08:29 PM

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So then Turin was finally convinced he'd married his sister, and he despaired

Awww, poor Túrin. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]
But thank you! I am forever grateful (as I said above).
Now to get little versions of Túrin and Nienor to fit into a shoebox with a dead/dying dragon in the background. . . This project may take a while. Any ideas?

[ October 13, 2002: Message edited by: Nevfeniel ]

littlemanpoet · 10-09-2002, 09:08 PM

I guess I'm just repeating what Nar said, but the story of Turin is a tragedy. As such, the climax is that moment when all the terrible events, prophecies, and so forth, culminate in that final most terrible moment. So the true climax is when Nienor and Turin kill themselves. Kind of like Romeo and Juliet in the mistaken business, but worsened by the incestuous nature of it. Yeah, their deaths.

10-09-2002, 06:23 PM	#2
Ar-Luman Animated Skeleton Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Irving, Tx Posts: 27	It would depend on what you like. Me, I would go when Turin killed Glaurung because I like battle scenes, but for someone who is more into romance I would go with the latter of the two. __________________ "and I, I took the one less traveled by and that has made all the difference."

10-09-2002, 08:20 PM	#3
Nar Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 228	1)When Nienor and Turin find out the truth about each other, that's when the curse is fulfilled. I would call that the climax, from the dragon's revelation to Nienor through Turin's suicide. 2)Turin was lying to test Mablung when he said Nienor was brown as a berry-- he wanted to be absolutely sure that Mablung was talking about the woman Turin knew as his wife, so he pretended to think she was brown as a berry to see if Mablung was sure that Nienor was blonde-- when Mablung corrected him with the right description Turin became sure that they were talking about the same person. So then Turin was finally convinced he'd married his sister, and he despaired. Up until then he was hoping there was some mistake. Turin himself was tall and had black hair. I think he took after his mother. He was stubborn like her too. [ October 09, 2002: Message edited by: Nar ]

10-09-2002, 09:08 PM	#5
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,072	I guess I'm just repeating what Nar said, but the story of Turin is a tragedy. As such, the climax is that moment when all the terrible events, prophecies, and so forth, culminate in that final most terrible moment. So the true climax is when Nienor and Turin kill themselves. Kind of like Romeo and Juliet in the mistaken business, but worsened by the incestuous nature of it. Yeah, their deaths.