The Chicken - Page 3 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Birdland · 06-23-2002, 11:10 AM

Guo Si and Nevtalathiel: Enough of this Eastern Mythology! Chickens were born to suffer and struggle.

Chicken against Nature: Usually a fox, but sometimes weasels.

Chicken Against Man: Boiled, roasted, or Fried.

Chicken Against Chicken: The Eternal Struggle of the Cock-Pit.

So why did the Chicken cross the Greenway: Because it was there!

GreatWarg · 06-23-2002, 01:06 PM

Are you calling me some twisted mutation Gimli?! Why, I'll make you squeal like a chicken! Wait... do chickens squeal? *shrugs*

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 06-23-2002, 03:39 PM

chickens are Maia.This proves it. They're invincible.

[ June 23, 2002: Message edited by: Gimli Son Of Gloin ]

gollum*elf*pup · 06-23-2002, 07:13 PM

hey gimli, what is with you and that headless chicken thing???? (just wondering)
i am half elf, half dog. i dont know what the gollum part is there for. heh heh heh.

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 06-23-2002, 11:55 PM

No one replied to it the last, what, eight times I posted it? You're the first one that said anything! <font size="72">THANK YOU!<font size="2">

gollum*elf*pup · 06-24-2002, 02:29 PM

youre welcome, i guess.
but what is with that headless chicken thing??? it's really weird.

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 06-26-2002, 03:26 PM

Chickens only need their brainstem to survive.

Bêthberry · 10-29-2002, 09:14 AM

The chicken constitutes a principled intervention into cultural politics. It understands the need for strategies to resist the hegemony of cultural artefacts such as the Greenaway or the other side. As the chicken theorizes itself, it achieves its own power. That is why Tolkien chose to talk turkey.

aka, *bump*

[ October 29, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

Turambar · 10-29-2002, 03:20 PM

Yes, I think I read something similar in Alan D. Sokal's brilliant Social Texts article . . . [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Bêthberry · 10-30-2002, 08:03 AM

LOL, Turambar, Alan D. Sokal and his Social Texts are both things of which I have never heard. It is so easy to parody this fowl stuff. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Bethberry

[ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

Rimbaud · 10-30-2002, 08:17 AM

Mithadan old chap, is your pun-wraith still in service? I would press upon you for its employment, if I may...

Bêthberry · 10-30-2002, 09:46 AM

Rimbaud old chap,

Before you preen yourself, let me remind you that ~~The tygers of reform are worse than the wraiths of instruction.~~ [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Bethberry

[ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ]

Cuthalion · 10-30-2002, 10:19 AM

And if there was no one there to actually see said chicken cross said greenway, who's to say it wasn't already on the other side?

Mhoram · 10-30-2002, 02:40 PM

I saw sharku's first post and started laughing and considered posting a quick LOL to let him know I got the joke, I scrolled down a little ways more and found I had already done so, some 6 months ago [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Good joke by Kate too, shadow wings.

And since this is already a silly thread, I don't feel bad about this non-contributing post.

Gandalf_theGrey · 10-30-2002, 03:05 PM

(inspired by Cuthalion)

If the chicken had been pierced by a Morgul blade, it wouldn't even need to cross the Greenway to get to the other side.

TolkienGurl · 10-30-2002, 03:07 PM

What came first? The chicken, or the egg?

And if the chicken was Tolkien, maybe he was crossing the greenway to escape the industrialization that was sweeping the countryside of Middle-earth. He hated industry, that chicken did.

Maybe his wings were broken so he couldn't fly to the other side of the greenway. Maybe he was so much into the session of deep thought and contemplation that regularly overcomes chickens that he forgot to fly. Maybe was afraid of flying.

[ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: TolkienGurl ]

*Varda* · 10-30-2002, 04:09 PM

So, if the chicken was afraid of flying, how would this chicken get across the greenway? Dance, walk, run? As for summoning up the courage to cross the greenway, what about the chicken's personality? Would that not be important in how and why it crosses the Greenway?

What traits in this chicken reflect us? Is the chicken being afraid to cross the road somehow reflective of a chicken-like sense in us, as we have fear, or are we indeed all chickens inside?

Couldn't help but find this topic interesting, since in class today I was forced to watch a toy chicken dance and sing. Oh well, my english teachers had two wee toy dogs that danced and sung Singing in the Rain. Don't ask.

***Thenamir*** · 10-30-2002, 04:42 PM

Whether the chicken crosses the Greenway or the Greeway crosses the chicken depends entirely on your frame of reference.

In the realm of self-perception, we are not what we think we are, nor are we what others think we are. We are what we think others think we are. Therefore, if others think you are a chicken, then a chicken you are, regardless of how you perceive yourself.

Tol(chic)kien obviously understood this. Finding it hard to soar with eagles when running with chickens in real life, he created an idealized, perfected chicken as a story character. I propound that Gwaihir is an authorial self-insertion into LOTR, not as he actually lived, but what he wanted to be deep in his heart!!

And upon this point there can be no debate -- eagles had wings.

Re: the Balrog -- perhaps in a moment of meditating on the deep evils of mankind, Tolkien envisioned the Balrog as man in his most depraved state. The reference to wings (real or shadow) is a poignant symbolism for the chicken-wings of fallen man, dark, vast, wreathed in impressive smoke and flames, but ultimately useless, "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." (Let not the readers of this post think that I am in any way comparing, by this particular Shakespearean reference, the works of Tolkien to "a tale told by an idiot" -- that tale is embodied in the collective posts which make up this thread.)

TolkienGurl · 10-30-2002, 04:49 PM

BTW, chickens don't fly much. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

VanimaEdhel · 11-01-2002, 06:31 PM

What if the chicken is flying an airplane, though? Then they can fly until they run out of fuel.

(But Rachel, can chickens fly airplanes?)

Thank you for asking that, adorable little child always sitting in the first row with obnoxious questions! Why can a chicken not fly an airplane?

(Because they don't have opposable thumbs. Well, come to think of it, they don't have hands at all!)

Well...maybe they are using the Force!

(Isn't this a Lord of the Rings site?)

Okay, well, we like Star Wars too, right?

Okay...that was stupid, pointless, and random...I'm sorry...

Amanaduial the archer · 11-10-2002, 10:28 AM

gimli hunny, i think you should go have a little lie down...u dont think maybe you and mikes relationship is a little, well...oh never mind...

wow 3 pages on a chicken. This thing could win prizes!

dragoneyes · 11-10-2002, 10:59 AM

It really depends on the type of chicken, whether it can fly or not. There are some selectivly bred ones which are too fat to fly, some, on the other hand, fly everywhere and couldn't live without their wings, a very annoying quality when you're trying to fence them in.

Amanaduial the archer · 11-10-2002, 03:03 PM

And there are other types of chicken scientists were trying to breed that had no chance of flying- the had no feathers

mark12_30 · 11-22-2002, 08:05 PM

Why did the chicken cross the road? ...
Aragorn: Let the guide go first, if you have one.
Saruman: He comes to Isengard seeking My Counsel.
Boromir: It was a plain road, though it led through a hedge of thorns.
Eowyn: More than anything else he feared a cage.
Bilbo: The road goes ever on...
Frodo: The chicken could have waited til Bilbo's birthday before he set off.
Sam: Chicken and Chips by S. Gamgee-- you couldn't say no to that.
Gollum: Give me chicken now, and keep nassty chips.

Suldaledhel · 11-23-2002, 10:22 AM

Quote:

"What came first? The chicken, or the egg?"

A question oft pondered by the greatest of minds. However, the question has been answered already by the philosophers of old. Actuality precedes potentiality, they said, and since the chicken is an actual chicken--whereas the egg is but a potential chicken--the chicken thus came before the egg.

Legolas · 11-24-2002, 12:30 PM

Not to mention eggs can't, eh...

Rimbaud · 11-24-2002, 01:01 PM

I believe greater scientific knowledge has disavowed that notion, Sud. The genetic code that is the chicken is in place and extant within the egg, before the fowl creature has emerged. Hence, a practical and applicable model for the answer that the ovine concept supercedes any poultry notion otherwise.

Philosophically, but with a biological bent, there is another reason. Chickens were not always chickens. They evolved from something close to today's chickens, the oft-feared pre-chicken chicken (PCC). The PCC in turn evolved from the Pre-PCC and so on. In each evolutionary shift, the work was done in the coding, which as previously studied, was present in the egg.

At the evolutionary drop-off point, where accurate chicken-classifiers (ACC) would determine the PCC had stopped being a PCC and was now just a C, it would be the egg of the C that preceded the C and 'came first'. Interesting for ACCs to think of the PCC nurturing the C to health and adulthood, not realising it was soon to be supplanted. The death of PC, finally.

My tongue has pierced my cheek. Ouch.

Estelyn Telcontar · 11-24-2002, 01:24 PM

...and where, dear Rimbaud, is the connection to Tolkien in there???

***Mister Underhill*** · 11-24-2002, 02:27 PM

...and how do your evolutionary musings jive with the Myths Tranformed version of Morgoth twisting innocent chickens into the fell steeds eventually employed by the Nazgûl circa T.A. 3019?

P.S. - Chickens were always chickens, since the pre-chicken chicken is not a chicken per se.

[ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: Mister Underhill ]

dragoneyes · 11-24-2002, 03:29 PM

No one ever said "which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg" therefore I take it to not just mean chicken-egg and things were laying eggs long before chickens were around.

There you are! Some of my logic for you!

VanimaEdhel · 11-27-2002, 11:58 AM

Do you know what I learned today (on the subject of fowl)? That they genetically breed Thanksgiving turkeys to have so much meat on them that they physically do not survive more than a year. The longest one lived was 3 years once. So, all of the turkeys the president pardons die within the year anyway. And yes, you non-U.S.A.-dwellers, our president pardons turkeys!

[ December 04, 2002: Message edited by: VanimaEdhel ]

Bêthberry · 02-28-2006, 11:22 AM

This thread deserves to be honoured by its own icon.

Telperaca · 03-21-2006, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Nietzsche:Chicken is dead.

Ah. One of my favourite persons! His quotes are always good to read when there's a serious problem needed to be sorted and when God doesn't seem to want to help.

And plus I like his frankness.

Telperaca · 03-21-2006, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

This thread deserves to be honoured by its own icon.

::Looks at cards::

I see your icon, and raise you a chocolate.

Oddwen · 03-21-2006, 09:07 AM

But if a chicken crosses the Greenway and there's nobody there to hear, did it still cross?

SamwiseGamgee · 03-21-2006, 10:27 PM

How can one comment on what one does not know. A better question, Oddwen, is: when nobody is looking do the chicken and the Greenway even exist?

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-22-2006, 05:21 AM

How many chickens can dance on a pinhead?

SamwiseGamgee · 03-22-2006, 05:35 AM

23. There's a night of my life I'll never get back.

Rimbaud · 03-23-2006, 04:57 AM

A chicken is just the egg's way of making another egg.

Legolas in spandex · 04-08-2006, 03:00 PM

because he wanted us to all discuss his reason for crossing it in the first place.

06-23-2002, 01:06 PM	#82
GreatWarg Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: East of the Misty Mountains Posts: 339	Are you calling me some twisted mutation Gimli?! Why, I'll make you squeal like a chicken! Wait... do chickens squeal? shrugs __________________ "What shall we do, what shall we do!" he cried. "Escaping goblins to be caught be wolves!"

06-23-2002, 03:39 PM	#83
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	chickens are Maia.This proves it. They're invincible. [ June 23, 2002: Message edited by: Gimli Son Of Gloin ] __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

06-23-2002, 07:13 PM	#84
gollumelfpup Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: big...scary...castle... Posts: 277	hey gimli, what is with you and that headless chicken thing???? (just wondering) i am half elf, half dog. i dont know what the gollum part is there for. heh heh heh. __________________ ~elfpup~ PI's evil family dog!!! I have found the chicken who is not a chicken!

06-23-2002, 11:55 PM	#85
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	No one replied to it the last, what, eight times I posted it? You're the first one that said anything! <font size="72">THANK YOU!<font size="2"> __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

06-24-2002, 02:29 PM	#86
gollumelfpup Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: big...scary...castle... Posts: 277	youre welcome, i guess. but what is with that headless chicken thing??? it's really weird. __________________ ~elfpup~ PI's evil family dog!!! I have found the chicken who is not a chicken!

06-23-2002, 11:10 AM	#81
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,757	Guo Si and Nevtalathiel: Enough of this Eastern Mythology! Chickens were born to suffer and struggle. Chicken against Nature: Usually a fox, but sometimes weasels. Chicken Against Man: Boiled, roasted, or Fried. Chicken Against Chicken: The Eternal Struggle of the Cock-Pit. So why did the Chicken cross the Greenway: Because it was there!

06-26-2002, 03:26 PM	#87
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	Chickens only need their brainstem to survive. __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

10-29-2002, 09:14 AM	#88
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,170	The chicken constitutes a principled intervention into cultural politics. It understands the need for strategies to resist the hegemony of cultural artefacts such as the Greenaway or the other side. As the chicken theorizes itself, it achieves its own power. That is why Tolkien chose to talk turkey. aka, bump [ October 29, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ] __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

10-29-2002, 03:20 PM	#89
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Yes, I think I read something similar in Alan D. Sokal's brilliant Social Texts article . . . [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

10-30-2002, 08:03 AM	#90
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,170	LOL, Turambar, Alan D. Sokal and his Social Texts are both things of which I have never heard. It is so easy to parody this fowl stuff. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Bethberry [ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ] __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

10-30-2002, 08:17 AM	#91
Rimbaud The Perilous Poet Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Heart of the matter Posts: 1,096	Mithadan old chap, is your pun-wraith still in service? I would press upon you for its employment, if I may... __________________ And all the rest is literature

10-30-2002, 09:46 AM	#92
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,170	Rimbaud old chap, Before you preen yourself, let me remind you that ~~The tygers of reform are worse than the wraiths of instruction.~~ [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Bethberry [ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: Bethberry ] __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

10-30-2002, 10:19 AM	#93
Cuthalion Summoner's Soul Mate Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fighting immigration laws... Posts: 273	And if there was no one there to actually see said chicken cross said greenway, who's to say it wasn't already on the other side?

10-30-2002, 02:40 PM	#94
Mhoram Dead and Loving It Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The land of fast cars and loud guitars. Posts: 363	I saw sharku's first post and started laughing and considered posting a quick LOL to let him know I got the joke, I scrolled down a little ways more and found I had already done so, some 6 months ago [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] Good joke by Kate too, shadow wings. And since this is already a silly thread, I don't feel bad about this non-contributing post.

10-30-2002, 03:05 PM	#95
Gandalf_theGrey Visionary Spirit Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 633	(inspired by Cuthalion) If the chicken had been pierced by a Morgul blade, it wouldn't even need to cross the Greenway to get to the other side.

10-30-2002, 03:07 PM	#96
TolkienGurl Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 637	What came first? The chicken, or the egg? And if the chicken was Tolkien, maybe he was crossing the greenway to escape the industrialization that was sweeping the countryside of Middle-earth. He hated industry, that chicken did. Maybe his wings were broken so he couldn't fly to the other side of the greenway. Maybe he was so much into the session of deep thought and contemplation that regularly overcomes chickens that he forgot to fly. Maybe was afraid of flying. [ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: TolkienGurl ] __________________ Hopes fail. An end comes. We have only a little time to wait now. We are lost in ruin and downfall and there is no escape. -Frodo My Livejournal

10-30-2002, 04:09 PM	#97
Varda Maiden of Tears Join Date: May 2002 Location: Valinor. Posts: 572	So, if the chicken was afraid of flying, how would this chicken get across the greenway? Dance, walk, run? As for summoning up the courage to cross the greenway, what about the chicken's personality? Would that not be important in how and why it crosses the Greenway? What traits in this chicken reflect us? Is the chicken being afraid to cross the road somehow reflective of a chicken-like sense in us, as we have fear, or are we indeed all chickens inside? Couldn't help but find this topic interesting, since in class today I was forced to watch a toy chicken dance and sing. Oh well, my english teachers had two wee toy dogs that danced and sung Singing in the Rain. Don't ask. __________________ 'It must often be so, Sam, when things are in danger: someone has to give them up, lose them, so that others may keep them' ~Frodo "Life is hard. After all, it kills you." - Katharine Hepburn

10-30-2002, 04:42 PM	#98
*Thenamir* Spectre of Capitalism Join Date: May 2001 Location: Battling evil bureaucrats at Zeta Aquilae Posts: 990	Whether the chicken crosses the Greenway or the Greeway crosses the chicken depends entirely on your frame of reference. In the realm of self-perception, we are not what we think we are, nor are we what others think we are. We are what we think others think we are. Therefore, if others think you are a chicken, then a chicken you are, regardless of how you perceive yourself. Tol(chic)kien obviously understood this. Finding it hard to soar with eagles when running with chickens in real life, he created an idealized, perfected chicken as a story character. I propound that Gwaihir is an authorial self-insertion into LOTR, not as he actually lived, but what he wanted to be deep in his heart!! And upon this point there can be no debate -- eagles had wings. Re: the Balrog -- perhaps in a moment of meditating on the deep evils of mankind, Tolkien envisioned the Balrog as man in his most depraved state. The reference to wings (real or shadow) is a poignant symbolism for the chicken-wings of fallen man, dark, vast, wreathed in impressive smoke and flames, but ultimately useless, "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." (Let not the readers of this post think that I am in any way comparing, by this particular Shakespearean reference, the works of Tolkien to "a tale told by an idiot" -- that tale is embodied in the collective posts which make up this thread.) __________________ The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~~ Marcus Aurelius

10-30-2002, 04:49 PM	#99
TolkienGurl Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 637	BTW, chickens don't fly much. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Hopes fail. An end comes. We have only a little time to wait now. We are lost in ruin and downfall and there is no escape. -Frodo My Livejournal

11-01-2002, 06:31 PM	#100
VanimaEdhel Etheral Enchantress Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wellesley College! Posts: 1,473	What if the chicken is flying an airplane, though? Then they can fly until they run out of fuel. (But Rachel, can chickens fly airplanes?) Thank you for asking that, adorable little child always sitting in the first row with obnoxious questions! Why can a chicken not fly an airplane? (Because they don't have opposable thumbs. Well, come to think of it, they don't have hands at all!) Well...maybe they are using the Force! (Isn't this a Lord of the Rings site?) Okay, well, we like Star Wars too, right? Okay...that was stupid, pointless, and random...I'm sorry... __________________ "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes

11-10-2002, 10:28 AM	#101
Amanaduial the archer Shadow of Starlight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: dancing among the ledgerlines... Posts: 2,397	gimli hunny, i think you should go have a little lie down...u dont think maybe you and mikes relationship is a little, well...oh never mind... wow 3 pages on a chicken. This thing could win prizes! __________________ I am what I was, a harmless little devil

11-10-2002, 10:59 AM	#102
dragoneyes Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Completely lost track, sorry! Posts: 743	It really depends on the type of chicken, whether it can fly or not. There are some selectivly bred ones which are too fat to fly, some, on the other hand, fly everywhere and couldn't live without their wings, a very annoying quality when you're trying to fence them in. __________________ "We might succeed in roasting Pippin alive inside." - Frodo.

11-10-2002, 03:03 PM	#103
Amanaduial the archer Shadow of Starlight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: dancing among the ledgerlines... Posts: 2,397	And there are other types of chicken scientists were trying to breed that had no chance of flying- the had no feathers __________________ I am what I was, a harmless little devil

11-22-2002, 08:05 PM	#104
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,407	Why did the chicken cross the road? ... Aragorn: Let the guide go first, if you have one. Saruman: He comes to Isengard seeking My Counsel. Boromir: It was a plain road, though it led through a hedge of thorns. Eowyn: More than anything else he feared a cage. Bilbo: The road goes ever on... Frodo: The chicken could have waited til Bilbo's birthday before he set off. Sam: Chicken and Chips by S. Gamgee-- you couldn't say no to that. Gollum: Give me chicken now, and keep nassty chips. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

11-24-2002, 12:30 PM	#106
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,850	Not to mention eggs can't, eh... __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

11-24-2002, 01:01 PM	#107
Rimbaud The Perilous Poet Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Heart of the matter Posts: 1,096	I believe greater scientific knowledge has disavowed that notion, Sud. The genetic code that is the chicken is in place and extant within the egg, before the fowl creature has emerged. Hence, a practical and applicable model for the answer that the ovine concept supercedes any poultry notion otherwise. Philosophically, but with a biological bent, there is another reason. Chickens were not always chickens. They evolved from something close to today's chickens, the oft-feared pre-chicken chicken (PCC). The PCC in turn evolved from the Pre-PCC and so on. In each evolutionary shift, the work was done in the coding, which as previously studied, was present in the egg. At the evolutionary drop-off point, where accurate chicken-classifiers (ACC) would determine the PCC had stopped being a PCC and was now just a C, it would be the egg of the C that preceded the C and 'came first'. Interesting for ACCs to think of the PCC nurturing the C to health and adulthood, not realising it was soon to be supplanted. The death of PC, finally. My tongue has pierced my cheek. Ouch. __________________ And all the rest is literature

11-24-2002, 01:24 PM	#108
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,645	...and where, dear Rimbaud, is the connection to Tolkien in there??? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

11-24-2002, 02:27 PM	#109
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,752	...and how do your evolutionary musings jive with the Myths Tranformed version of Morgoth twisting innocent chickens into the fell steeds eventually employed by the Nazgûl circa T.A. 3019? P.S. - Chickens were always chickens, since the pre-chicken chicken is not a chicken per se. [ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: Mister Underhill ]

11-24-2002, 03:29 PM	#110
dragoneyes Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Completely lost track, sorry! Posts: 743	No one ever said "which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg" therefore I take it to not just mean chicken-egg and things were laying eggs long before chickens were around. There you are! Some of my logic for you! __________________ "We might succeed in roasting Pippin alive inside." - Frodo.

11-27-2002, 11:58 AM	#111
VanimaEdhel Etheral Enchantress Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wellesley College! Posts: 1,473	Do you know what I learned today (on the subject of fowl)? That they genetically breed Thanksgiving turkeys to have so much meat on them that they physically do not survive more than a year. The longest one lived was 3 years once. So, all of the turkeys the president pardons die within the year anyway. And yes, you non-U.S.A.-dwellers, our president pardons turkeys! [ December 04, 2002: Message edited by: VanimaEdhel ] __________________ "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes

02-28-2006, 11:22 AM	#112
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,170	Feathering the nest This thread deserves to be honoured by its own icon.

03-21-2006, 09:07 AM	#115
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,246	But if a chicken crosses the Greenway and there's nobody there to hear, did it still cross? __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

03-21-2006, 10:27 PM	#116
SamwiseGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg Posts: 378	How can one comment on what one does not know. A better question, Oddwen, is: when nobody is looking do the chicken and the Greenway even exist? __________________ -- Well, I'm back.

03-22-2006, 05:21 AM	#117
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,645	How many chickens can dance on a pinhead? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-22-2006, 05:35 AM	#118
SamwiseGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg Posts: 378	23. There's a night of my life I'll never get back. __________________ -- Well, I'm back.