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01-16-2003, 04:53 AM | #1 |
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Seven Fathers of the Dwarves
Durin was the first Father to awake, and he was the head of the House of Longbeards. Is there any reference anywhere to the other Fathers and the names of their houses. I know all seven Folk were united in the war against the Orcs after the slaying of Thror, but what else do we know about the other six houses?
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01-16-2003, 05:17 AM | #2 |
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The Sil has some stuff on the Dwarves when they stole the Nauglarmir and murdered King Thingol.They talk of the Dwarves of Belegost and the Dwarves of Nogrod,there might of been more but i am not a big fan of Dwarves so i didnt commit much about them to memory. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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01-16-2003, 06:37 AM | #3 |
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See Appendix A to LOTR, part iii, "Durin's Folk".
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01-16-2003, 07:03 AM | #4 |
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Yes, I've read that. But it doesn't give the names of the other six Houses or their fathers, so I wondered if it were mentioned in other writings.
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01-16-2003, 07:23 AM | #5 |
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HoME 12: Of Dwarves and men.
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01-19-2003, 01:27 PM | #6 |
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Can someone tell me- if seven dwarf FATHERS were made by Aule in the beginning, where did the women come from? Did Illuvatar decide to reward Aule's impudence at trying to create life even further by actually making dwarf-women?
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05-04-2006, 01:40 PM | #7 |
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there were 4 male and 3 female dwarves that went togheter 2 and 2 except of durin who took a dauhgter of someone of these
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05-04-2006, 02:11 PM | #8 |
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I believe that there were 7 fathers, and they were seperate from the wives, except Durin who did not have a wife, but I heard once that the Longbeards was just a conglomeration of all six houses, but it is odd: How Durin could just wander on his own from Gundabad to Khazad-dum and have to wait for the other houses who were far the west and even farther to the east to catch up with him? I suppose by being "the Deathless" he sat outside the East Gate, or if it was the East Hole then, and just chill.
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05-20-2006, 06:09 AM | #9 |
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In aswer to your question,
The Seven Dwarven clans are the Longbeards (whose Father was Durin, who awoke at Mt. Gundabad), the Broadbeams and the Firebeards (who awoke somewhere in the Blue Mountains, probably at Mt. Dolmed), the Ironfists and Stiffbeards, whose fathers awoke together, and the Blacklocks and Stonefoots, whose fathers also awoke together. Durin is the only named father, although it is possible for Azaghal of Belegost to have been a Father as well, although rather a tenuous suggestion I admit.
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05-26-2006, 02:38 PM | #10 |
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About the Seven Fathers it is enough said, I think. But not for the female Dwarves. Of course there should be some female Dwarves from the beginning. Otherwise there wouldn't be a race of Dwarves.
But Tolkien wasn't sure how to include the female Dwarves, the spouses of the Seven Fathers. There were several different versions of it. (HoME XI, The War of the Jewels: Concerning the Dwarves) I will give a short overview over the versions:
Tolkien couldn't decide, which version was the best, so he let the Females unmentioned.
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