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Androndo the Thoughtfull · 02-11-2002, 03:20 PM

This should probably be sent as an e-mail to The Barrow-Downs's webmasters... but they read the forum anyway - so why bother opening my mail-program [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]?

Does anyone know if the elvish name generator actually translate english to a elvish (and wich kind of elvish) word?
Or is it just nonsense?

What about the other name generators?

(and sorry if i made your download-time for the forum larger bequase i have such a long name :-)

Enedhil · 02-11-2002, 04:26 PM

ROFL
Mangled my elven name through the Hobbit name generater and got this: Amarantha Headstrong from the North Moors. The hobbit generated name for 'seonad' being Estella Maggot from Tighfield, and with my surname: Bell Hedgeworth from Girdley Island. Actually...I quite like them all... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Hey ....wonder what happens when you stick Hobbit name through Elf-generator, or Orcs, or Dwarf and muddle them all up!!! WOO! (goes off for some name-generating fun...simple things please simple minds [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img])

Enedhil · 02-11-2002, 04:33 PM

Have put Bell Hedgeworth (hobbit name) through Elf name generator. Comes up with: Enedyávië and ah-ha! i can see a similarity, which may just be a coincidence. The first syllable is the same on both my Elven names (Enedhil and Enedyávië). And here ends my train of thought, though some vague ideas float around my head, about the translators and how they work.(though i may just be gibbering again...its very hard to know when to shut up [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] )

Niphredil Baggins · 02-12-2002, 08:26 AM

I think they are nonsense, since they translate anything. It would be real hard to make such things really work. Anyway I know what my name really is in elvish, and it isn't what I get out of the generator. No offence meant to the makers, the name-gens are a great deal of fun!

Androndo the Thoughtfull · 02-12-2002, 09:12 AM

Thats my theory too... but it could be fun to know how they work... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Eruhen · 02-13-2002, 10:49 AM

I agree that the name-gens are a lot of fun, but it would take an enormous amount of time to translate the amount of neccessary Quenya, Sindarin, Orkish, and Adûnaic to transliterate real-world names in Tolkienish languages. Though it would be really cool if you could use the name-gems to translate any word you need translated for anything Tolkienish! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

***The Barrow-Wight*** · 02-13-2002, 11:14 AM

The name generators, as you have correctly surmised, make nothing more than random names from whatever you type. It would indeed be a monumental task to try to translate someone's real name from whatever language it happens to be in, and then retranslate it back into Tolkien's wonderful but very incomplete languages.
The name generators are just for fun. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Malbeth's predictions, on the other hand, can be downright spooky! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

***Mister Underhill*** · 02-13-2002, 12:35 PM

BW! Shhhhhh!!!

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE WIGHT BEHIND THE CURTAIN!

The name generators may produce colloquialisms and idiomatic translations the relevance of which is not readily apparent to the untrained eye, but rest assured that the unhoused Maiar spirit we have confined here at the Downs for the sole purpose of running them does provide accurate translations!

[ February 13, 2002: Message edited by: Mister Underhill ]

Androndo the Thoughtfull · 02-13-2002, 12:38 PM

OK... but is it possible to get precisely the same output with different inputs...?

***The Barrow-Wight*** · 02-13-2002, 02:54 PM

If the Maiar spirits will it! (translation: yes, remotely)

Gelmir · 08-03-2004, 10:50 AM

Ah! But I found a different name generator and all of the names(common ones) and the elvish names(or hobbit names) were all written out next to them so... This name generator not very exact, if they're all at random!!

But it's funny how it's at ramdom and when people come out with good ones, you ask thm to show you and it comes out like poo the meesly orc in stead of Zeus the valar! LOL!

funny!

Isowen · 08-03-2004, 11:14 AM

Name generators are interesting and good to play with but theres really no possible way to know if they are accurate. I know a few names in elvish, such as my own- Isowen! But i'm not so good with other things.

Lachwen · 08-03-2004, 11:15 AM

Well, then, Mr. Underhill, how do you explain the sudden change in my Elvish name? For the longest time, when I put my name in the name generator, it gave me Esgalost, but suddenly I'm getting Hallasew.

I still am amused by the fact that, according to your name generators, in Middle-earth Elijah Wood was a miruvor-drinking Elven maiden.

02-02-2005, 12:53 PM

About this site's name generator:

Anyone knows why it isn't case and character sensitive anymore?

Lolidir · 04-13-2005, 07:17 AM

A few of you have said that you know your real elvish names and some other words possibly. I was wondering where/how you found them out.

Elianna · 04-13-2005, 04:37 PM

I think the funniest thing I've gotten from the name generator is for "Frodo Baggins". The Elvish name you get is Pellamel, which according to Noel's Guide to Tolkien's Languages means "beyond the borders of love." Poor guy!

Lolidir, sorry, I know exactly the website you need, but have lost the address. It's probably still around on the forum somewhere. You might find it at the "What does your screen name mean?" thread, maybe...

wilwarin538 · 04-15-2005, 03:55 PM

Lolidir try here(look under Languages). Its where I got mine. But my name is very common so it isnt for sure that they will have whatever your name is.

mark12_30 · 11-23-2006, 09:24 PM

Sindarin Calad, but that's masculine, so perhaps Caladhien or Caladhwen? Hmm.
Quenya Calmë. Interesting.

Rikae · 11-24-2006, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Barrow-Wight

If the Maiar spirits will it! (translation: yes, remotely)

Ah...
so that's why I have the same Hobbit name as Andy Serkis*.

I was afraid it meant I was a mocap CGI character that somehow found its way into the real world!

*using my real name, not "Rikae"

Elmo · 01-25-2007, 07:43 AM

I went on one that said 'Barry' (not my name) was translated into Balin, some how Barry Lord of Moria doesn't have the same ring

Thinlómien · 01-26-2007, 02:30 AM

You know, Thinlómien is what the generator comes up with my name... Or it used to, nowadays I become Galenuialiel, -ien, -wen...

FeRaL sHaDoW · 01-26-2007, 06:56 PM

most of the name translators are just ramdom, it said i was a Valiant Oathbreaker

02-11-2002, 03:20 PM	#1
Androndo the Thoughtfull Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Daugaardstrand, Denmark Posts: 118	name generators... This should probably be sent as an e-mail to The Barrow-Downs's webmasters... but they read the forum anyway - so why bother opening my mail-program [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]? Does anyone know if the elvish name generator actually translate english to a elvish (and wich kind of elvish) word? Or is it just nonsense? What about the other name generators? (and sorry if i made your download-time for the forum larger bequase i have such a long name :-) __________________ ...and with a tremendous slice of luck you may come out one day...

02-11-2002, 04:26 PM	#2
Enedhil Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 102	ROFL Mangled my elven name through the Hobbit name generater and got this: Amarantha Headstrong from the North Moors. The hobbit generated name for 'seonad' being Estella Maggot from Tighfield, and with my surname: Bell Hedgeworth from Girdley Island. Actually...I quite like them all... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Hey ....wonder what happens when you stick Hobbit name through Elf-generator, or Orcs, or Dwarf and muddle them all up!!! WOO! (goes off for some name-generating fun...simple things please simple minds [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]) __________________ Meanwhile these three remain: Faith, Hope and Love. And the greatest of these is Love.

02-11-2002, 04:33 PM	#3
Enedhil Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 102	Have put Bell Hedgeworth (hobbit name) through Elf name generator. Comes up with: Enedyávië and ah-ha! i can see a similarity, which may just be a coincidence. The first syllable is the same on both my Elven names (Enedhil and Enedyávië). And here ends my train of thought, though some vague ideas float around my head, about the translators and how they work.(though i may just be gibbering again...its very hard to know when to shut up [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] ) __________________ Meanwhile these three remain: Faith, Hope and Love. And the greatest of these is Love.

02-12-2002, 08:26 AM	#4
Niphredil Baggins Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 118	I think they are nonsense, since they translate anything. It would be real hard to make such things really work. Anyway I know what my name really is in elvish, and it isn't what I get out of the generator. No offence meant to the makers, the name-gens are a great deal of fun! __________________ Wistful, willful, wingless, fly!

02-12-2002, 09:12 AM	#5
Androndo the Thoughtfull Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Daugaardstrand, Denmark Posts: 118	Thats my theory too... but it could be fun to know how they work... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ ...and with a tremendous slice of luck you may come out one day...

02-13-2002, 10:49 AM	#6
Eruhen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: At the Mountains of Madness Posts: 399	I agree that the name-gens are a lot of fun, but it would take an enormous amount of time to translate the amount of neccessary Quenya, Sindarin, Orkish, and Adûnaic to transliterate real-world names in Tolkienish languages. Though it would be really cool if you could use the name-gems to translate any word you need translated for anything Tolkienish! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Agannâlô burôda nênud; zâira nênud. Adûn izindi batân tâidô ayadda: îdô kâtha batîna lôkhî. Êphalak îdôn Yôzâyan. Êphal êphalak îdôn hi-Akallabêth.

02-13-2002, 11:14 AM	#7
*The Barrow-Wight* Night In Wight Satin Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,043	The name generators, as you have correctly surmised, make nothing more than random names from whatever you type. It would indeed be a monumental task to try to translate someone's real name from whatever language it happens to be in, and then retranslate it back into Tolkien's wonderful but very incomplete languages. The name generators are just for fun. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Malbeth's predictions, on the other hand, can be downright spooky! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ The Barrow-Wight

02-13-2002, 12:35 PM	#8
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,743	BW! Shhhhhh!!! PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE WIGHT BEHIND THE CURTAIN! The name generators may produce colloquialisms and idiomatic translations the relevance of which is not readily apparent to the untrained eye, but rest assured that the unhoused Maiar spirit we have confined here at the Downs for the sole purpose of running them does provide accurate translations! [ February 13, 2002: Message edited by: Mister Underhill ]

02-13-2002, 12:38 PM	#9
Androndo the Thoughtfull Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Daugaardstrand, Denmark Posts: 118	OK... but is it possible to get precisely the same output with different inputs...? __________________ ...and with a tremendous slice of luck you may come out one day...

02-13-2002, 02:54 PM	#10
*The Barrow-Wight* Night In Wight Satin Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,043	If the Maiar spirits will it! (translation: yes, remotely) __________________ The Barrow-Wight

08-03-2004, 10:50 AM	#11
Gelmir Haunting Spirit Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lothlorein Posts: 62	Ah! But I found a different name generator and all of the names(common ones) and the elvish names(or hobbit names) were all written out next to them so... This name generator not very exact, if they're all at random!! But it's funny how it's at ramdom and when people come out with good ones, you ask thm to show you and it comes out like poo the meesly orc in stead of Zeus the valar! LOL! funny!

08-03-2004, 11:14 AM	#12
Isowen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The blackened depths Posts: 86	Name generators are interesting and good to play with but theres really no possible way to know if they are accurate. I know a few names in elvish, such as my own- Isowen! But i'm not so good with other things. __________________ I hope Butterbur sends this promptly. A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber -room: Thing wanted always burried, If he forgets, I shall roast him.

08-03-2004, 11:15 AM	#13
Lachwen Wight Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greenwood the Great. Posts: 115	Well, then, Mr. Underhill, how do you explain the sudden change in my Elvish name? For the longest time, when I put my name in the name generator, it gave me Esgalost, but suddenly I'm getting Hallasew. I still am amused by the fact that, according to your name generators, in Middle-earth Elijah Wood was a miruvor-drinking Elven maiden. __________________ "'...Home is the sailor, home from the sea, And the hunter home from the hill.'"

02-02-2005, 12:53 PM	#14
Calenulma Guest Posts: n/a	About this site's name generator: Anyone knows why it isn't case and character sensitive anymore?

04-13-2005, 07:17 AM	#15
Lolidir Wight Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Roaming the plains of Middle Earth Posts: 103	Real elvish name? A few of you have said that you know your real elvish names and some other words possibly. I was wondering where/how you found them out. __________________ "Its a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to"

04-13-2005, 04:37 PM	#16
Elianna Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ad finem itineris Posts: 384	I think the funniest thing I've gotten from the name generator is for "Frodo Baggins". The Elvish name you get is Pellamel, which according to Noel's Guide to Tolkien's Languages means "beyond the borders of love." Poor guy! Lolidir, sorry, I know exactly the website you need, but have lost the address. It's probably still around on the forum somewhere. You might find it at the "What does your screen name mean?" thread, maybe... __________________ Enyale cuilenya, ú-enyale mandenya.

04-15-2005, 03:55 PM	#17
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	Lolidir try here(look under Languages). Its where I got mine. But my name is very common so it isnt for sure that they will have whatever your name is. Last edited by wilwarin538; 04-15-2005 at 03:58 PM.

11-23-2006, 09:24 PM	#18
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Sindarin Calad, but that's masculine, so perhaps Caladhien or Caladhwen? Hmm. Quenya Calmë. Interesting. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

01-25-2007, 07:43 AM	#20
Elmo Pittodrie Poltergeist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trying to find that warm and winding lane again Posts: 633	I went on one that said 'Barry' (not my name) was translated into Balin, some how Barry Lord of Moria doesn't have the same ring __________________ As Beren looked into her eyes within the shadows of her hair, The trembling starlight of the skies he saw there mirrored shimmering.

01-26-2007, 02:30 AM	#21
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	You know, Thinlómien is what the generator comes up with my name... Or it used to, nowadays I become Galenuialiel, -ien, -wen... __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

01-26-2007, 06:56 PM	#22
FeRaL sHaDoW Wight Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 232	most of the name translators are just ramdom, it said i was a Valiant Oathbreaker __________________ God created night, but man created darkness....