Battles of the late Third Age - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rumil · 07-05-2003, 06:25 PM

Hail and well met friends,

I'd like to start a thread discussing the battles of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, (well I already have, so there!) to root out the obscure facts and gain the opinions and speculation of the inestimable Barrow-Downers.

First of all, a definition. In our world battles are defined as having at least 1000 participants on either side, I'll downgrade this to 100 a side for Middle Earth, so that the larger skirmishes (eg. Eomer's destruction of the Uruk-Hai) aren't omitted.

Secondly, a list of the battles I hope we will discuss. I plan to deal with these in order, but can you first please check the list and make sure its right and includes all the relevant events.

2941 - Assault on Dol Guldur
- Battle of the Five Armies
(2900s - frequent skirmishes in Ithilien)
(2950s on - Orc raids on Rohan from the Misty Mountains and over the Anduin. Dunlending raids from the West, eg. in 3002 Eomund was killed in battle with orcs in the Emyn Muil)
2980 - Aragorn (Thorongil) destroys the fleet of Umbar
2994 - Dwarves of Moria destroyed
3018 - Orcs from Dol Guldur attack Thranduil
- Black riders force passage of the Anduin at Osgiliath
3019 - 1st Battle of the Fords of Isen
- Eomer destroys the Uruk-Hai
- 2nd Battle of the Fords of Isen
- Helm's Deep
- Faramir's ambush
- Pelargir taken
- Cair Andros taken
- Orcs from Dol Guldur surprised by Ents on the Wold
- First assault on Lorien
- Orcs attack Beornings
- Battle of Linhir
- Osgiliath taken
- Causeway forts reduced
- Imrahil's sortie
- Aragorn captures the fleet at Pelargir
- The Battle of the Pelennor Fields
- Battle Under the Trees
- Second assault on Lorien
- Battle of the Carnen
- 1st Battle of Dale
- Third assault on Lorien
- Second Ithilien ambush
- Cair Andros retaken
- Elfhelm routs force in Anorien
- Battle of the Morannon
- 2nd Battle of Dale
- Final assault on Dol Guldur
- Battle of Bywater

In each case I'd like to discuss the 'facts' we have, and speculate on terrain, size and armament of forces and the course of the battle. Obviously this is easier in some cases than others due to lack of information!

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07-05-2003, 06:25 PM	#1
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	Battles of the late Third Age Hail and well met friends, I'd like to start a thread discussing the battles of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, (well I already have, so there!) to root out the obscure facts and gain the opinions and speculation of the inestimable Barrow-Downers. First of all, a definition. In our world battles are defined as having at least 1000 participants on either side, I'll downgrade this to 100 a side for Middle Earth, so that the larger skirmishes (eg. Eomer's destruction of the Uruk-Hai) aren't omitted. Secondly, a list of the battles I hope we will discuss. I plan to deal with these in order, but can you first please check the list and make sure its right and includes all the relevant events. 2941 - Assault on Dol Guldur - Battle of the Five Armies (2900s - frequent skirmishes in Ithilien) (2950s on - Orc raids on Rohan from the Misty Mountains and over the Anduin. Dunlending raids from the West, eg. in 3002 Eomund was killed in battle with orcs in the Emyn Muil) 2980 - Aragorn (Thorongil) destroys the fleet of Umbar 2994 - Dwarves of Moria destroyed 3018 - Orcs from Dol Guldur attack Thranduil - Black riders force passage of the Anduin at Osgiliath 3019 - 1st Battle of the Fords of Isen - Eomer destroys the Uruk-Hai - 2nd Battle of the Fords of Isen - Helm's Deep - Faramir's ambush - Pelargir taken - Cair Andros taken - Orcs from Dol Guldur surprised by Ents on the Wold - First assault on Lorien - Orcs attack Beornings - Battle of Linhir - Osgiliath taken - Causeway forts reduced - Imrahil's sortie - Aragorn captures the fleet at Pelargir - The Battle of the Pelennor Fields - Battle Under the Trees - Second assault on Lorien - Battle of the Carnen - 1st Battle of Dale - Third assault on Lorien - Second Ithilien ambush - Cair Andros retaken - Elfhelm routs force in Anorien - Battle of the Morannon - 2nd Battle of Dale - Final assault on Dol Guldur - Battle of Bywater In each case I'd like to discuss the 'facts' we have, and speculate on terrain, size and armament of forces and the course of the battle. Obviously this is easier in some cases than others due to lack of information! [ July 05, 2003: Message edited by: Rumil ] [ July 06, 2003: Message edited by: Rumil ] __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion