LotR=? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

LePetitChoux · 11-11-2002, 03:39 PM

Ok, basically try to find other books/films which have characters/settings etc. almost identical to LotR. (the most obvious one is Harry Potter, eg.
Wormtail?Wormtongue,
Invisibility cloak?Cloak of Lorien

Wormtail => Wormtongue,
Invisibility cloak => Cloak of Lorien,

etc., etc.
You get the point. However, try to come up with other books apart from HP...

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gralin musicteeth · 11-11-2002, 05:23 PM

The Magic Three of Solatia

Three Elven Rings, one all powerful ring => Three magic buttons, third rules the other 2

Dark Lord with many personalities => Evil Wizard with many personalities

VanimaEdhel · 11-11-2002, 05:46 PM

Garath (birth name, became Belgarath) - Gandalf

Garion (reluctant hero...hmmm...) - Frodo

Lelldoran - Legolas

C'Nedra - Eowyn

Barak - Beorn

Polgara - a grouchy Arwen

Oh...what's his name? Began with an "R" I think: The Horse Lord - Aragorn

Silk - Smeagol when good and Sam all in one

Mandorallen - an uncorrupted Boromir

This is all in the David Eddings series (you know, "Polgara the Sorceress", "Belgarath the Sorcerer", etc.)

EDIT: just remembered the horse lord's name: Dernik (roughly spelled). Okay: didn't begin with an R...

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Melephelwen · 11-14-2002, 01:17 PM

The Fionavar Gobeline (by Guy Gavriel kay):
Lisen (most beautiful of all, falls in love with mortal man, sacrifice her life for him) = Lúthien
Dark dangerous forest, which I can't remember the name of = Mirkwood
Dark lord captured in a mountain = Sauron
Middle-earth = Fionavar (the maps look alike)
Erú = The Weaver
History of ME = History of Fionavar
Elves going west when they leave Middle-earth/Fionavar = well, you choose which of them... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Sorry I can't remember the names, I find it annoying too.

VanimaEdhel, I know who you are talking about, allthough I'm not so sure he was named Dernik - did you check the books? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

The Sword of Shannara (by Terry brooks):
Flick = Sam
Shea = Frodo
Allanon = Gandalf
etc. etc. with the characters
Shire = Valley of Shadows (is that the correct name? I've only read the Danish translation, so I have to guess on the "real" names)
Mordor = Kingdom of Skulls (? again [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] )
Moria = those dark halls of kings or something, they have to pass to go to Paranor
Paranor = Isengard?

Hope it's okay I did two in the same post [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
And if you know the names of all the things I mentioned with a wrong name, please let me know [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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dragoneyes · 11-14-2002, 04:11 PM

Amazing!... I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about!

That was a poinlesss post, I apologise.

Evisse the Blue · 11-15-2002, 05:42 AM

How about the obvious resemblances with the Ring of the Nibelungen? Hey, wait, that was before Tolkien...

Arwen1858 · 11-16-2002, 01:02 AM

Well, this isn't exactly a book, but... Have any of y'all ever seen Babylon 5? You should see the similarities there!
B-5 vs. LOTR
Rangers - Rangers
Sheridan falls off this place in Zha-ha-dum, comes back when thought dead - Gandalf falls of bridge of Kha-zad-dum(sp?), and comes back when thought dead
Grey council - White council

Well, I think there are more, but I can't remember at the time.
Arwen

TolkienGurl · 11-16-2002, 01:34 PM

In Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets:
Aragog, the giant Spider, and all his sons and daughters

In LOTR:
Shelob, the giant Spider

In The Hobbit:
the giant spiders of Mirkwood

VanimaEdhel · 11-16-2002, 03:02 PM

I forget how to spell his name. I know it's pronounced Dernik, but I forget whether it's Dernik or Durnik.

Melephelwen · 11-17-2002, 02:15 PM

Thought hard about it, VanimaEdhel, and I think the Sendarian smith is Durnik, and the horse lord is something else, which I forget everytime I get close to remembering... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

VanimaEdhel · 11-17-2002, 04:37 PM

That's right...I meant whoever Polgara married...haven't read that series since I was seven, so I forgot so much of it...

Isn't Sendaria a lot like "Sindarin"?

Sapphire_Flame · 11-20-2002, 11:11 AM

LotR=>Harry Potter (comparison)

Ringwraiths=>dementors (book3)

Precioussss · 11-20-2002, 04:39 PM

To add to gralin's post...
Blackguard => Blackheart (what Ungoliant calls Feanor)

I love that book!!!

Brinniel · 11-20-2002, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Shire = Valley of Shadows (is that the correct name? I've only read the Danish translation, so I have to guess on the "real" names)
Mordor = Kingdom of Skulls

Being the Shannara fan that I am, I will help by correcting you. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Shire= Shady Vale
Mordor= Skull Kingdom

And here are some additions from the Sword of Shannara:
Aragorn= Balinor
Minas Tirith= Tyrsis
Gimli= Hendel
Legolas= a combination of Durin and Dayel
Merry= Menion Leah
Rivendell= Arborlon (though it's not exactly in the SoS)
Nazgul= Skull Bearers
Sauron= Warlock Lord
orcs= gnomes

Alright, the Sword of Shannara may be quite similar to LOTR, but I love that darn book (though not as much as LOTR). Plus, that's only one out 11 Shannara books. The rest are completely different from LOTR. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

TolkienGurl · 11-22-2002, 03:40 PM

I suppose that the Ringwraiths are quite similar to the Dementors in Harry Potter. But last time I checked, Ringwraiths were not soul-sucking fiends, as are Dementors. They are both, of course, servants of a higher dark power but I really don't think that Dementors were men at one time. And the chilling fear their presence inspires is similar, too.

OK, so I'm a Harry Potter maniac. So what! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Recently I've been trying to calm my anxiousness by reading fanfiction, but I want the next book really bad!

11-11-2002, 03:39 PM	#1
LePetitChoux Vegetable of Doom Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Posts: 720	LotR=? Ok, basically try to find other books/films which have characters/settings etc. almost identical to LotR. (the most obvious one is Harry Potter, eg. Wormtail?Wormtongue, Invisibility cloak?Cloak of Lorien Wormtail => Wormtongue, Invisibility cloak => Cloak of Lorien, etc., etc. You get the point. However, try to come up with other books apart from HP... [ November 11, 2002: Message edited by: LePetitChoux ] [ January 11, 2003: Message edited by: LePetitChoux ] __________________ je suis une bonne odeur

11-11-2002, 05:23 PM	#2
gralin musicteeth Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tossing half-sick between grotesque reality and savage, frightening dreams Posts: 360	The Magic Three of Solatia Three Elven Rings, one all powerful ring => Three magic buttons, third rules the other 2 Dark Lord with many personalities => Evil Wizard with many personalities __________________ Where was the stooped and mealy-coloured old man I used to call Poppa when the merry-go-round broke down?

11-11-2002, 05:46 PM	#3
VanimaEdhel Etheral Enchantress Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wellesley College! Posts: 1,461	Garath (birth name, became Belgarath) - Gandalf Garion (reluctant hero...hmmm...) - Frodo Lelldoran - Legolas C'Nedra - Eowyn Barak - Beorn Polgara - a grouchy Arwen Oh...what's his name? Began with an "R" I think: The Horse Lord - Aragorn Silk - Smeagol when good and Sam all in one Mandorallen - an uncorrupted Boromir This is all in the David Eddings series (you know, "Polgara the Sorceress", "Belgarath the Sorcerer", etc.) EDIT: just remembered the horse lord's name: Dernik (roughly spelled). Okay: didn't begin with an R... [ November 12, 2002: Message edited by: VanimaEdhel ] __________________ "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes

11-14-2002, 01:17 PM	#4
Melephelwen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: the Middle of Nowhere Posts: 291	The Fionavar Gobeline (by Guy Gavriel kay): Lisen (most beautiful of all, falls in love with mortal man, sacrifice her life for him) = Lúthien Dark dangerous forest, which I can't remember the name of = Mirkwood Dark lord captured in a mountain = Sauron Middle-earth = Fionavar (the maps look alike) Erú = The Weaver History of ME = History of Fionavar Elves going west when they leave Middle-earth/Fionavar = well, you choose which of them... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Sorry I can't remember the names, I find it annoying too. VanimaEdhel, I know who you are talking about, allthough I'm not so sure he was named Dernik - did you check the books? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] The Sword of Shannara (by Terry brooks): Flick = Sam Shea = Frodo Allanon = Gandalf etc. etc. with the characters Shire = Valley of Shadows (is that the correct name? I've only read the Danish translation, so I have to guess on the "real" names) Mordor = Kingdom of Skulls (? again [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] ) Moria = those dark halls of kings or something, they have to pass to go to Paranor Paranor = Isengard? Hope it's okay I did two in the same post [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] And if you know the names of all the things I mentioned with a wrong name, please let me know [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [ November 17, 2002: Message edited by: Melephelwen ] __________________ We're all following a strange melody We're all summoned by a tune We're following the piper And we dance beneath the moon

11-14-2002, 04:11 PM	#5
dragoneyes Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Completely lost track, sorry! Posts: 733	Amazing!... I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about! That was a poinlesss post, I apologise. __________________ "We might succeed in roasting Pippin alive inside." - Frodo.

11-15-2002, 05:42 AM	#6
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	How about the obvious resemblances with the Ring of the Nibelungen? Hey, wait, that was before Tolkien... __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

11-16-2002, 01:02 AM	#7
Arwen1858 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gondor Posts: 516	Well, this isn't exactly a book, but... Have any of y'all ever seen Babylon 5? You should see the similarities there! B-5 vs. LOTR Rangers - Rangers Sheridan falls off this place in Zha-ha-dum, comes back when thought dead - Gandalf falls of bridge of Kha-zad-dum(sp?), and comes back when thought dead Grey council - White council Well, I think there are more, but I can't remember at the time. Arwen __________________ Will Turner: "This is either madness or brilliance." Jack Sparrow: "It's remarkable how often those two traits coincide." ~ Pirates of the Caribbean

11-16-2002, 01:34 PM	#8
TolkienGurl Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 637	In Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets: Aragog, the giant Spider, and all his sons and daughters In LOTR: Shelob, the giant Spider In The Hobbit: the giant spiders of Mirkwood __________________ Hopes fail. An end comes. We have only a little time to wait now. We are lost in ruin and downfall and there is no escape. -Frodo My Livejournal

11-16-2002, 03:02 PM	#9
VanimaEdhel Etheral Enchantress Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wellesley College! Posts: 1,461	I forget how to spell his name. I know it's pronounced Dernik, but I forget whether it's Dernik or Durnik. __________________ "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes

11-17-2002, 02:15 PM	#10
Melephelwen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: the Middle of Nowhere Posts: 291	Thought hard about it, VanimaEdhel, and I think the Sendarian smith is Durnik, and the horse lord is something else, which I forget everytime I get close to remembering... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ We're all following a strange melody We're all summoned by a tune We're following the piper And we dance beneath the moon

11-17-2002, 04:37 PM	#11
VanimaEdhel Etheral Enchantress Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wellesley College! Posts: 1,461	That's right...I meant whoever Polgara married...haven't read that series since I was seven, so I forgot so much of it... Isn't Sendaria a lot like "Sindarin"? __________________ "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes

11-20-2002, 11:11 AM	#12
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	LotR=>Harry Potter (comparison) Ringwraiths=>dementors (book3) __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

11-20-2002, 04:39 PM	#13
Precioussss Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dancing on this earth for a short while Posts: 111	To add to gralin's post... Blackguard => Blackheart (what Ungoliant calls Feanor) I love that book!!! __________________ I am against nature. I don't dig nature at all. I think nature is very unnatural. I think the truly natural things are dreams, which nature can't touch with decay. - Bob Dylan

11-22-2002, 03:40 PM	#15
TolkienGurl Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 637	I suppose that the Ringwraiths are quite similar to the Dementors in Harry Potter. But last time I checked, Ringwraiths were not soul-sucking fiends, as are Dementors. They are both, of course, servants of a higher dark power but I really don't think that Dementors were men at one time. And the chilling fear their presence inspires is similar, too. OK, so I'm a Harry Potter maniac. So what! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Recently I've been trying to calm my anxiousness by reading fanfiction, but I want the next book really bad! __________________ Hopes fail. An end comes. We have only a little time to wait now. We are lost in ruin and downfall and there is no escape. -Frodo My Livejournal