*SPOILERS* - The Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare book - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Essex · 11-11-2003, 10:37 AM

OK, spolier coming up. sorry if someone has already noted this.....I picked up the new weapons and warfare book last night and had a quick skim through. I saw the helmet that the Mouth of Sauron wears. In the text they explained that it is Aragorn who will 'parly' with him (not Gandalf) and they state (can't remember the exact words) that Aragorn will show him the strength of his sword, Anduril. In other words (I think) we may see a bit of action between aragorn and the mouth (instead of the much maligned possibility of aragorn versus Sauron). I don't think this is very kingly, attacking someone whilst you're parlying! But maybe Aragorn turns his back and gets attacked...Also, and this is quite ironic, but in the Saruman section it states that there are conflicting reports on the end of Saruman. It staes he was either killed in Isengard, or the Shire, or headed out East! Talk about hedging your bets......

Imladris · 11-11-2003, 11:06 AM

I would doubt that PJ would have Aragorn attack for a few reasons. One, though they have changed his character a little bit, they haven't made him unkingly and two, the Mouth of Sauron would be the more likely guy to play dirty, since he is the badguy...

Olorin_TLA · 11-11-2003, 11:47 AM

Well...in the books, he scares the Mouth into saying that as an ambassador he "may not be assailed!" with his glare alone! And it does say that he didn't even move his hand to his sword hilt.Now, this last bit obviously inspired the radio adpatation - with crazy logic you can see how it makes sense. In that, it would break the flow to narrate a stare, so they have Aragorn say who he is and that he bears the Sword That Was Broken, which causes the Mouth to freak and claim diplomatic immunity.So I'm guessing that in the films (this would be the best way if he has to "show" his sword) he would unsheate Anduril and tell the Moputh what it is, scaring him.

Knight of Gondor · 11-14-2003, 05:40 PM

I think the Mouth of Sauron will come back out and fight after his messages are done. The rumor is (***spoiler***) that Aragorn will nearly be killed, but Frodo's achievement halts it. I'm sure the director won't let Aragorn appear puny before the Mouth, though, and will doubtlessly inflict some wounds of his own.

11-11-2003, 10:37 AM	#1
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	SPOILERS - The Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare book OK, spolier coming up. sorry if someone has already noted this.....<P>I picked up the new weapons and warfare book last night and had a quick skim through. <P>I saw the helmet that the Mouth of Sauron wears. In the text they explained that it is Aragorn who will 'parly' with him (not Gandalf) and they state (can't remember the exact words) that Aragorn will show him the strength of his sword, Anduril. In other words (I think) we may see a bit of action between aragorn and the mouth (instead of the much maligned possibility of aragorn versus Sauron). <P>I don't think this is very kingly, attacking someone whilst you're parlying! But maybe Aragorn turns his back and gets attacked...<P>Also, and this is quite ironic, but in the Saruman section it states that there are conflicting reports on the end of Saruman. It staes he was either killed in Isengard, or the Shire, or headed out East! Talk about hedging your bets......

11-11-2003, 11:06 AM	#2
Imladris Tears of the Phoenix Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Putting dimes in the jukebox baby. Posts: 1,453	I would doubt that PJ would have Aragorn attack for a few reasons. One, though they have changed his character a little bit, they haven't made him unkingly and two, the Mouth of Sauron would be the more likely guy to play dirty, since he is the badguy... __________________ I'm sorry it wasn't a unicorn. It would have been nice to have unicorns. I'm your huckleberry.

11-11-2003, 11:47 AM	#3
Olorin_TLA Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gardens of Lórien, Valinor. Posts: 420	Well...in the books, he scares the Mouth into saying that as an ambassador he "may not be assailed!" with his glare alone! And it does say that he didn't even move his hand to his sword hilt.<P>Now, this last bit obviously inspired the radio adpatation - with crazy logic you can see how it makes sense. In that, it would break the flow to narrate a stare, so they have Aragorn say who he is and that he bears the Sword That Was Broken, which causes the Mouth to freak and claim diplomatic immunity.<P>So I'm guessing that in the films (this would be the best way if he has to "show" his sword) he would unsheate Anduril and tell the Moputh what it is, scaring him. __________________ "For I am Olórin! And Olórin means me!" ELENDIL! - Join "Forth Tolkiengas!"

11-14-2003, 05:40 PM	#4
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	I think the Mouth of Sauron will come back out and fight after his messages are done. The rumor is (*spoiler*) that Aragorn will nearly be killed, but Frodo's achievement halts it. I'm sure the director won't let Aragorn appear puny before the Mouth, though, and will doubtlessly inflict some wounds of his own. __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16