*Possible Spoilers* - Return of the King Cast List - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-28-2003, 08:36 AM

There is a link at <A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/index.shtml" TARGET=_blank>ToRN</A> to the section on Return of the King at a film website called <A HREF="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167260/fullcredits" TARGET=_blank>IMDb</A>.What I found interesting was the cast list, which is presumably that supplied by New Line. There are a few surprising inclusions, and a few possible disappointments.As expected, Eleanor Gamgee makes the list, but there is also a "Baby Gamgee" listed. There is also a character called "Eldarion", so it looks that they may have some sequence showing Aragorn and Arwen's subsequent life (unless this is simply the name given to a Gondorian soldier).I am glad to see Grimbold there, and there are two characters who I don't recognise from the book - Madril and Irolas. Presumably they are Men of Gondor.I was interested to see that Lawrence Makaoare is down to play both the Witch-King and Gothmog. I presume that they will have Gothmog as the second-in-command of the Nazgul. There is also a listing for the King of the Dead, who will presumably be more of a defined "character" unlike in the book.Deagol is there, of course, and I saw somewhere that the scene with him and Smeagol, and Smeagol's subsequent transformation into Gollum, will open the film.Unfortunately, there is no mention of Imrahil, Beregond, Bergil or Ghan-Buri-Ghan. Or Forlong the Fat. I suppose it is not conclusive, but it seems unlikely that these characters will be in it. Surprisingly, however, the Mouth of Sauron also does not feature on the list. I do hope this isn't another example of Jackson changing his mind and cutting filmed sequences (neither Saruman nor Wormtingue are on the list, of course). Oh, and isn't the guy listed as being an Elven Escort Figwit? Anyone have any further thoughts on the cast, or seen anything different elsewhere?

Meela · 11-28-2003, 12:16 PM

Yep, Bret McKenzie played Figwit.They have Rose's actual baby playing baby Gamgee? How sweet! Real kids!Ghan-Buri-Ghan and Beregond were there before. Ian Hughes was listed for Beregond, and I can't remember who was playing Ghan. But they were there...

Elladan and Elrohir · 11-28-2003, 04:07 PM

Deagol is in it, which means the sequence with Smeagol and Deagol is definitely in.Treebeard is apparently not in it; if he is, he's not listed.Also, did anybody notice they cast someone as the voice of the Ring? Coooool.

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 11-28-2003, 04:32 PM

I'm really hoping that it's not complete, perhaps Beregond might be in after all. What's odd to me is that Ian Hughes, who was supposed to play Beregond to the best of my knowledge, is listed as Irolas. Did he play two characters, or did they change Beregond's name for some unfathomable reason? It also appears that there will be more Isildur flashbacks and more Boromir flashbacks. I can see how the Boromir ones might fit in, but I can't quite fit in the Isildur ones. Perhaps sometime during the moments before the destruction of the Ring? It seems to me that that would break the tension.

Meela · 11-28-2003, 04:46 PM

Treebeard should be in it... he's on the Rotk calendar! Is he just not listed because he's a tree/Ent (trent?) and not a person?

Silmiel of Imladris · 11-29-2003, 04:19 PM

Treebeard is probably not listed because John Rhys Davies is already listed as Gimli. I see that Isildur and Boromir are on board so that means more FLASHBACKS! Oh well I don't mind. I can't believe that the Elven Smiths are not on the list but they probably do not have big enough parts but yah for Figwit anyway!

balrogman · 11-29-2003, 07:28 PM

OH MY GOD! Viggo Mortensen is playing Aragorn!

Oddwen · 11-29-2003, 09:41 PM

DUDE! That is major! I shudder to think of what that could mean...do you think PJ would go so far as to crown him king???? BUT THAT COULD ONLY MEAN...that Liv Tyler is back as Aragorn's intended!No VoS, no Bergil, no Ghan, nooooo....

Elladan and Elrohir · 11-29-2003, 10:10 PM

HEY, and did you see this? They cast some guy named Andy Serkis as Gollum! Wonder if he's any good!

Essex · 12-02-2003, 03:56 AM

"Eldarion", you mean we might have an epilouge scene (ie the tale of years) in the film? please don't tell me if you KNOW this is not a fact!!

11-28-2003, 08:36 AM	#1
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Possible Spoilers - Return of the King Cast List There is a link at <A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/index.shtml" TARGET=_blank>ToRN</A> to the section on Return of the King at a film website called <A HREF="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167260/fullcredits" TARGET=_blank>IMDb</A>.<P>What I found interesting was the cast list, which is presumably that supplied by New Line. There are a few surprising inclusions, and a few possible disappointments.<P>As expected, Eleanor Gamgee makes the list, but there is also a "Baby Gamgee" listed. There is also a character called "Eldarion", so it looks that they may have some sequence showing Aragorn and Arwen's subsequent life (unless this is simply the name given to a Gondorian soldier).<P>I am glad to see Grimbold there, and there are two characters who I don't recognise from the book - Madril and Irolas. Presumably they are Men of Gondor.<P>I was interested to see that Lawrence Makaoare is down to play both the Witch-King and Gothmog. I presume that they will have Gothmog as the second-in-command of the Nazgul. There is also a listing for the King of the Dead, who will presumably be more of a defined "character" unlike in the book.<P>Deagol is there, of course, and I saw somewhere that the scene with him and Smeagol, and Smeagol's subsequent transformation into Gollum, will open the film.<P>Unfortunately, there is no mention of Imrahil, Beregond, Bergil or Ghan-Buri-Ghan. Or Forlong the Fat. I suppose it is not conclusive, but it seems unlikely that these characters will be in it. Surprisingly, however, the Mouth of Sauron also does not feature on the list. I do hope this isn't another example of Jackson changing his mind and cutting filmed sequences (neither Saruman nor Wormtingue are on the list, of course). <P>Oh, and isn't the guy listed as being an Elven Escort Figwit? <P>Anyone have any further thoughts on the cast, or seen anything different elsewhere? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

11-28-2003, 12:16 PM	#2
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	Yep, Bret McKenzie played Figwit.<P>They have Rose's actual baby playing baby Gamgee? How sweet! Real kids!<P>Ghan-Buri-Ghan and Beregond were there before. Ian Hughes was listed for Beregond, and I can't remember who was playing Ghan. But they were there... __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

11-28-2003, 04:07 PM	#3
Elladan and Elrohir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 332	Deagol is in it, which means the sequence with Smeagol and Deagol is definitely in.<P>Treebeard is apparently not in it; if he is, he's not listed.<P>Also, did anybody notice they cast someone as the voice of the Ring? Coooool. __________________ "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved. All I did was give your uncle a little nudge out of the door." THE HOBBIT - IT'S COMING

11-28-2003, 04:32 PM	#4
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	I'm really hoping that it's not complete, perhaps Beregond might be in after all. What's odd to me is that Ian Hughes, who was supposed to play Beregond to the best of my knowledge, is listed as Irolas. Did he play two characters, or did they change Beregond's name for some unfathomable reason? It also appears that there will be more Isildur flashbacks and more Boromir flashbacks. I can see how the Boromir ones might fit in, but I can't quite fit in the Isildur ones. Perhaps sometime during the moments before the destruction of the Ring? It seems to me that that would break the tension. __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

11-28-2003, 04:46 PM	#5
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	Treebeard should be in it... he's on the Rotk calendar! Is he just not listed because he's a tree/Ent (trent?) and not a person? __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

11-29-2003, 04:19 PM	#6
Silmiel of Imladris Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Looking into a crystal ball- still see nothing Posts: 395	Treebeard is probably not listed because John Rhys Davies is already listed as Gimli. I see that Isildur and Boromir are on board so that means more FLASHBACKS! Oh well I don't mind. I can't believe that the Elven Smiths are not on the list but they probably do not have big enough parts but yah for Figwit anyway! __________________ Legolas 20 ales later: I feel something, a slight tingling in my fingers. I think it's affecting me. Figwit on his name: Are you suggesting that I have the wit of a fig?

11-29-2003, 07:28 PM	#7
balrogman Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: that place with the stuff Posts: 102	OH MY GOD! Viggo Mortensen is playing Aragorn! __________________ should i stay or should i go?

11-29-2003, 09:41 PM	#8
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,125	DUDE! That is major! I shudder to think of what that could mean...do you think PJ would go so far as to <I>crown him king????</I><BR>BUT THAT COULD ONLY MEAN...that Liv Tyler is back as Aragorn's intended!<P>No VoS, no Bergil, no Ghan, nooooo.... __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

11-29-2003, 10:10 PM	#9
Elladan and Elrohir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 332	HEY, and did you see this? They cast some guy named Andy Serkis as Gollum! Wonder if he's any good! __________________ "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved. All I did was give your uncle a little nudge out of the door." THE HOBBIT - IT'S COMING

12-02-2003, 03:56 AM	#10
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	"Eldarion", you mean we might have an epilouge scene (ie the tale of years) in the film? please don't tell me if you KNOW this is not a fact!!