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Old 03-20-2006, 12:09 AM   #441
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So, we have a stand-off then Gurthang!
????

What are you talking about?
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Old 03-20-2006, 12:10 AM   #442
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If we lynch them both and they're innocent, sure, we'll be talking about it, but at least the conversation will be focused on the people who made it happen instead of on these two
Don't you mean, if they turn out to be ordos, that the conversation will be focused on me and Gurthang?Since we are the last ones to vote. I don't think Lhuna is going to vote, if she was she would have when she was on earlier, I guess. And I don't know when/if Cailin is going to be back on....
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Old 03-20-2006, 12:20 AM   #443
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????

What are you talking about?
I was trying to make a funny, anywhoo....


I will go with Farael on this one because of this:

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Kath is a wolf and I know so for sure. Lhuna is more of a gray zone just now. We will probably know soon anyway.

Fellow villagers, I beseech you. I understand where the Lhuna voters are coming from, yet let me tell you, Kath is a werewolf for certain. Don't waste your votes on someone who may or may not turn furry.
There's only one way that someone can say that they are absolutely certain about someone in this game.....

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Old 03-20-2006, 12:31 AM   #444
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I suddenly have a bad feeling about Naria. Although, that is partially assuaged by her agreeable vote. I also have a very bad feeling about what is going to happen between tonight and tomorrow morning.

Hmmm.... with all these bad feelings I'm having, maybe I ate something my stomach doesn't agree with.
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Old 03-20-2006, 12:55 AM   #445
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I'm back and awake.

I shall still have to read through the thread, but the whole Kath thing is not making me too happy. I don't really suspect her, and yet lynching her might be worth it just for the information.

There's not much else we can still do. Is Kath going down with Lhuna? That is the question.

*goes back to read*
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:03 AM   #446
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Hmm... Farael's accusations against Kath are getting stronger every post.

We need to get this out of the way. Though I feel much uneasy, I shall continue to support the double lynch.

However, I do not trust Lhuna at all and I believe Lhunarwolf will vote to save herself if she has the chance. Gurthang, are you still there and can you hold your vote till about 8:30AM? I fear I can't.
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:39 AM   #447
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Yeah, I'm hear. I'm sure Lhuna is watching closely, too. I'll be here until Day ends. According to the rules, I don't have to vote. If I read right, I can miss three days and be okay. I'll save mine to the end.
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:42 AM   #448
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Yeah, I'm hear. I'm sure Lhuna is watching closely, too. I'll be here until Day ends. According to the rules, I don't have to vote. If I read right, I can miss three days and be okay. I'll save mine to the end.
Glad to hear it.

Kath and Lhuna now each have 7 votes right? So I shouldn't vote for either of them.
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Old 03-20-2006, 01:51 AM   #449
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I suddenly have a bad feeling. That kind of feeling like you're about to lynch your Seer
I didn't think too much about this at first, but after this:

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I also have a very bad feeling about what is going to happen between tonight and tomorrow morning.

Hmmm.... with all these bad feelings I'm having, maybe I ate something my stomach doesn't agree with.
It started to bother me. In the first quote Gurthang, why did you say the words you're and your for the seer and not we're and our seer....hmmm

And why would you alone have a bad feeling about what is going to happen during the Night phase? With the exception of the wolves, aren't we all nervous about what is going to happen while we sleep?

This seems strange to me as well....What did you eat that your tummy doesn't agree with? A little Anguirel maybe?!
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Old 03-20-2006, 02:02 AM   #450
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Glad to hear it.

Kath and Lhuna now each have 7 votes right? So I shouldn't vote for either of them.
Correct. I'll sit tight and make sure Lhuna doesn't screw things up.

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It started to bother me. In the first quote Gurthang, why did you say the words you're and your for the seer and not we're and our seer....hmmm

And why would you alone have a bad feeling about what is going to happen during the Night phase? With the exception of the wolves, aren't we all nervous about what is going to happen while we sleep?

This seems strange to me as well....What did you eat that your tummy doesn't agree with? A little Anguirel maybe?!
In answer to the first question: I don't really know. I guess I was using a general pronoun rather than the possessive. Oh, and while you're picking on words, I used the wrong kind of here in post #447.

When I say I have a bad feeling, I just feel like we're going to lose our seer in the course of tonight, I mean like they weren't careful enough and the wolves are onto them. I'd rather not talk about it too much, or else I'll be the one giving things away.
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Old 03-20-2006, 02:10 AM   #451
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Gurthang, I am with your bad feeling.

I will have to leave now but I shall make a symbolic vote.

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That is it. Let's hope it's all for the best. Good luck, villagers.
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Nilp, hurry up! I want to go to bed!
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Old 03-20-2006, 02:35 AM   #453
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I can't die without causing some confusion, of course, can I?

Let's see. Right now I think either Cailin or Elempi is the last Seer. If Elempi is, well, I guess that explains a lot. If it's Cailin, great job of hiding it!

But according to my source, it could also possibly be Naria. Hmm, definitely something to consider.

You've been a wonderful village, folks. Ere I die I would like to tell you all to be very careful with whom you trust. But of course you all know that already.

You see, I have in my hands the power to end this game, for good or ill in whichever perspective. But since I don't want to be such a killjoy, I now choose to drag it out. Haha! Good luck my fellow wolves.

And oh, Eomer and I are the Lovers. I guess you'll have to say goodbye to him now. See you in the afterlife, my love.
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Old 03-20-2006, 02:36 AM   #454
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Nice try.

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I hope my bad feeling is wrong.
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Old 03-20-2006, 02:38 AM   #456
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About me? Of course it is. Eomer's the wolf.
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Old 03-20-2006, 02:41 AM   #457
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This is a quite familiar scenario, isn't it Gurthang?
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No, my feeling that I've been talking about all evening. Just glance back up the page.

Nice to know that Nilp didn't 'doctor' who became what. Oh, wait...

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This is a quite familiar scenario, isn't it Gurthang?
It's not coming to me. Refresh my memory.
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Oh, yeah... me getting stuck staying up all night so that the Eomer, and in this case you, can't ruin everything. Seems like I'm always the one that's up at 2:30am! Well, me and mormegil. And you too, but it's different in your neck of the world.

But here I am, chatting around like it's the end of the game. Where is Nilp? I really need to go to bed!
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It's not as if I can vote twice, right?

And yes, the game is ending. Soon, very soon...
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True, but I want to see the official ending before I go to sleep. Aww, never mind. It'll give me something to look forward to tomorrow.
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I'll spoil it for you. Kath is the other Seer, I'm an ordo Lover, and Eomer's the wolf-Lover. Good enough? G'night!
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Old 03-20-2006, 03:05 AM   #464
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The Eye The fourth NIGHT comes.

The villagers took Kath and Lhunardawen to Nilp's house, where they planned to use the same noose that killed the Prophet on them. They pushed Kath in first, and they were putting the noose around her neck when she transformed into a huge hulk of fanged fur. Coincidentally, the metamorphosis also enlarged her neck, and so she was strangled in the loop of rope.

The villagers cheered. They had their first Werewolf! Emboldened by their success, they turned to Lhunardawen. They roughly pushed the Dark Elf into her brother's hut.

Farael hung back, watching Lhuna's execution with tears in his eyes. She should not die, so fair, so desperate. At least she should not die alone, unaided.

With a sudden burst of strength he took the psychiatrist's couch and used it as a weapon against the assembled villagers. Thus he was able to make a path to her beloved. Dropping the couch he took her in his arms and sang:
Lhuna lunera, cascabelera
pedile a mi chiquita
por D"s que me quiera
Dile que la quiero, que tenga compasion
Pide que se apiade de mi corazon
But the village was unmoved by their display of passion. They took huge stones and pelted the pair with it. However, despite the chaos of the stoning, Farael and Lhunardawen neither saw nor heard of it. Their eyes were on each other, and in those eyes, they found peace . . .

The scroll of the census was changed:
Nilpaurion Felagund, the Prophet of the Mod God, was lynched by suspicious means on the first NIGHT.
Garin, an Ordinary Villager, was lanced like a boil on the the first DAY.
Anguirel, an Ordinary Villager, was massacred by were-hedgehogs on the second NIGHT.
Eonwe, an Ordinary Villager, was struck by lightning, struck by lightning! on the second DAY.
dancing spawn of ungoliant, a Seer, was taken away on the third NIGHT.
Kath, a Werewolf, was accidentally strangled on the third DAY
Lhunardawen, the Werewolf Beloved, died with his Lover on the third DAY
Farael, the Lover, died defending his Beloved on the third DAY

Those alive are:

Caranlondien, a lumberjack
tar-ancalime, a witch
Cailín, the town gossip
Celuien, a psychiatrist
Naria, a midwife who goes ever so slightly mad with each birth
Valier, a small, sweet sheep-shearer
Lalaith, a rich young widow
Thinlómien, a mushroom-picker
Formendacil, an unemployed person
littlemanpoet, a stone-cutter
Glirdan, an unemployed person
Eomer of the Rohirrim, the royal musician
Gurthang, an arrowsmith
the guy who be short, a Nilp fan, stalker and impersonator, also a fisherman
SamwiseGamgee, the town bank manager
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Old 03-21-2006, 02:28 AM   #465
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The Eye The fourth DAY.

It was a glorious day for Ened-in-Nowhere. After the first few tottering steps to rid their village of the lupine menace, they finally got some on the third DAY. Two, in fact. Eomer of the Rohirrim was in his royal quarters that NIGHT, weaving melodious verses to commemorate the DAY in song.

Suddenly the door to his home tumbled in riven fragments to the ground. In strode two Werewolves, dreadful in their wrath. Eomer took his flute in one hand and his harp in the other. He strung his harp and fitted the flute into it. Holding the harp as if it were a bow, he fired at the Werewolves. But, since he was no archer, he missed. The Werewolves advanced menacingly.

'This is it,' Eomer thought. 'I'm going to die . . . and me without inspiration for my last song.' But despair lent genius wings, and suddenly the royal musician uttered these lines:
Sad souls, take comfort, nor forget
That sunrise never failed us yet.
The two fiends cackled. 'You'll never see sunrise again,' said one; and taking all his woodwind instruments they stabbed him repeatedly.

Standing back to admire their work, one of the Werewolves commented: 'There, he looks like a hedgehog. Anguirel shall find a good reason to hate him now.' The two snickered and left just before the first few golden rays betrayed Anar's return to the East.

The next day, all the villagers were gathered at Eomer's home. Many of them were secretly sobbing, some were openly weeping.

'Who could do such a horrible thing to such a handsome man?' Cailín said.

The scroll of the census was changed:
Nilpaurion Felagund, the Prophet of the Mod God, was lynched by suspicious means on the first NIGHT.
Garin, an Ordinary Villager, was lanced like a boil on the the first DAY.
Anguirel, an Ordinary Villager, was massacred by were-hedgehogs on the second NIGHT.
Eonwe, an Ordinary Villager, was struck by lightning, struck by lightning! on the second DAY.
dancing spawn of ungoliant, a Seer, was taken away on the third NIGHT.
Kath, a Werewolf, was accidentally strangled on the third DAY
Lhunardawen, the Werewolf Beloved, died with his Lover on the third DAY
Farael, the Lover, died defending his Beloved on the third DAY
Eomer of the Rohirrim, an Ordinary Villager, was poked with woodwinds on the fourth NIGHT.

Those alive are:

Caranlondien, a lumberjack
tar-ancalime, a witch
Cailín, the town gossip
Celuien, a psychiatrist
Naria, a midwife who goes ever so slightly mad with each birth
Valier, a small, sweet sheep-shearer
Lalaith, a rich young widow
Thinlómien, a mushroom-picker
Formendacil, an unemployed person
littlemanpoet, a stone-cutter
Glirdan, an unemployed person
Gurthang, an arrowsmith
the guy who be short, a Nilp fan, stalker and impersonator, also a fisherman
SamwiseGamgee, the town bank manager
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Alas. Poor Eomer. He homed in on the guilty ones over the last two Days, with almost Seerish brilliance, and this sealed his fate.
But still, we (I mean the remaining innocents,) can take great cheer in yesterDay's events. I was hoping we’d get one, but two and a lover….what a result.

Now, onto analysis. (I wrote most of this yesterday because I have to go right away and won't be back until late toDay.)
Of course now so much becomes clear.
Once spawn’s death and Seer status is announced, Farael is very quick and early to jump in with his attempt to indict Kath. This means that any watching wolf could guess that Lhuna is the lupine with the lover. Anyone who voted for Lhuna yesterDay (yes, including me) is more suspicious than the Kath-voters.
What of TGWBS? On the one hand, Lhuna’s willingness to leave him in the lurch, lynchwise, on day one, speaks for his innocence. But his actions yesterDay don’t look good to me. With two women being the most likely seer suspects, he insists that we vote for the men. Is he (as I think Farael, who knew the wolves, actually said!) lone male wolf among three females, and is this his way of proving to his lady friends that he is not a traitor?

One other point. The Day before yesterDay, we had three unlikely babes in the wood – LMP, Form and Samwise – all seemingly realising with shock that lovers would reveal things to each other. I wondered whether this wide-eyed innocence was a ploy by at least one of them – to the extent that I re-posted my surprise, in a deliberately barbed way, hoping to gauge the reaction it got.
Samwise cheerfully acknowledges the oversight – an innocent reaction. LMP reacts huffily. He also makes a rather clumsy attempt to construct a case against me, a case which is (later) partly rebutted by Gurthang. But Form does not respond to my barb at all. Maybe he, as a very grand player, thinks both I and my point are beneath notice, but still…he’d been worrying me anyway, and this doesn’t help at all.
Going through the posts, I noticed Celuien’s first analysis, on day one, was of men only, but she didn’t actually say so. What was all that about, Celuien? Why did you just analyse men?
A quick analysis of Kath-voters:
Cailin, post 330. Looks good, but could be a ruthless wolf jettisoning her tainted fellow-travellers. Celuien votes for Kath because it’s more useful, another tick. Gurthang’s lonely vigil, waiting to catch Lhuna, is most impressive of all…perhaps too impressive. But I am inclined to think him innocent. Samwise also feels innocent to me.
And all praise to the late Eomer (post 162 - spot on, sir - except with one obvious error, ahem, which he did later retract)

I am currently most uncomfortable with Form, TGWBS and LMP, in that order.
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Well, we see Farael's motives now. His entire case against Kath was full of holes, and I feel fully justified in voting for him...

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Oh well. I knew people would try to use these deaths against me. Come, and I shall answer to you all...
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*weeps* Alas, alas, Eomer dead, and it is not even my fault. How terribly tragic and unfair.

Now why would Eomer be killed?

Mind you, he has been under some suspicion the past few Days and though he can be as much a threat as an ordinary, I am quite convinced they thought him the other Seer. That is great, because I am also almost certain he did that intentionally. He has mentioned the Seer often yesterDay - constantly seeming to bring it up while it was unnecessary - and he and Spawn seemed allies before (likely Eomer was her first dream; he would definitely be my first dream, too). It is as close to a Ranger as we can get.

I also immediately wish to add that there is absolutely no point in analysing doomed Lhuna's posts yesterDay. They are too ambiguous and Lhuna will have made sure they tell us naught.

Gurthang seems very innocent to me after yesterDay's events, as do some others like tar-ancalime who made this double lynch possible. I wish to trust littlemanpoet, who has been a great asset to the village with his analyses, but I cannot - he is too smart. I still trust TGWBS because I very much doubt he'd draw so much attention to himself with both his female wolf buddies in danger. Seems like an ord to me. But you may answer to me anyway, if you wish.

Glirdan is someone whom I shall be looking closely at toDay, as is Formendacil. And Lalaith's first post toDay worries me as well.

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the "obvious" reason

So far in this game, the too-obvious-to-be-true has been, well, true.

Anguirel's
death really did point to Kath.

dancing spawn's death really did point to Lhuna.

Farael's attacks on Kath really were unfounded (or founded on insider knowledge, as opposed to the discourse of the game).

So, at the risk of stating the obvious,

We really ought to take a close look at Glirdan today. Eomer suspected him continuously, and again, the way this game has been going, we can't afford to overlook these obvious links.
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I can't die without causing some confusion, of course, can I?

Let's see. Right now I think either Cailin or Elempi is the last Seer. If Elempi is, well, I guess that explains a lot. If it's Cailin, great job of hiding it!

But according to my source, it could also possibly be Naria. Hmm, definitely something to consider.
Obviously she was lying through her teeth in this post; but could there be a grain of truth in here? Could she really be giving us a summary of the wolves' thoughts on who is the second Seer? Obviously they thought last Night that Eomer was the most likely candidate, but Lhuna couldn't very well come out with that while claiming to be Eomer's Beloved, now could she?

What do y'all think? Are the wolves going to have to change their strategy because Lhuna just spilled the beans?

Alternatively, did Lhuna just give us the identities of the remaining wolves?

Or, as is probably the case, was she just making things up for fun?
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Old 03-21-2006, 04:37 AM   #471
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After a wolf knows it is going to die, its only aim is to sow confusion in the village. I would consider none of Lhuna's final information seriously; though some may be true, and lots will be false, we cannot know which is which. Better by far to analyse her - and Kath's - and yea, even Farael's - earlier posts.
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Old 03-21-2006, 04:43 AM   #472
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Agreed. Somehow, I can't believe we'd be that lucky thrice, but Glirdan definitely has been acting differently. Of course, Eomer was not the Seer, so it might all be a red herring. We can't ignore it either way and I shall be looking into Glirdan's posts as soon as possible. I generally got the impression from his previous posts that he was 'hiding' behind analysis, in other words, summing up dead people's posts.

Again, tar-ancalime, I think it is really no use to try and understand what Lhuna meant with her final posts. She intended to sow confusion and we'd be better off just ignoring her warped, twisted, wolvish statements. I think.
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Old 03-21-2006, 05:24 AM   #473
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and he and Spawn seemed allies before (likely Eomer was her first dream; he would definitely be my first dream, too).
Looking back, I am not sure where I saw that… Probably it was merely imaginary. Anyhow, that is not the point.

A few questions:

How about Glirdan? No known wolf did vote for him yet, neither Kath nor Lhuna ever attempted to portray him in a negative light… and why not, I wonder. Glirdan would have been an easy victim, considering the events of the past few days. This is indeed strange. I think he definitely belongs on any suspect lists.

TGWBS… I trust him and yet I do not. He absolutely refused to believe the Seers had dreamt of a wolf (we still cannot be sure, but I think it is now extremely probable Lhuna was indeed the second dream) and his Plan was far from flawless. On the one hand, I think a wolf would not be so stupid. On the other hand, I don't think TGWBS would be so stupid. But we all make mistakes and at least TGWBS stuck to his own convictions.

I am a bit suspicious of Lalaith. Could Lhuny's vote have been wolf-on-wolf? She did not pursue her suspicions further the next Day, aside from mentioning them in her first post.

By the way, that vote for Lalaith looks good for TGWBS. It seems likely that Lhuna was trying to align herself with an innocent by defending him, rather than already defending a fellow wolf. As the Lover-wolf, she'd certainly not be inclined to do that.

I have too little time and actually don't really feel like doing a proper analysis of our departed wolves posts. I advise everyone to look for themselves anyway, rather than rely on summaries.
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Old 03-21-2006, 05:30 AM   #474
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Wow. I honestly didn't believe Kath to be a wolf. But evidently she was. And we caught the lovers. I hope I don't sound heartless, if I say I'm not very sad at the moment (though Eomer the Innocent is dead). I'm rather happy that we caught two wolves and the lovers in one day. That was great.

Anyway, TGWBS looks a bit bad now - at least to me. He continuosly tried to distract people from analysing Kath and Lhuna by babbling about his double-lynch theory, which would have profited wolves, since now we know at least two of them were female.

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I'm also ready to eliminate Caran because a)she's a newbie and b) she's posted quite a bit with substantial posts and is helping the village greatly.
??? Care to explain a bit?
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Old 03-21-2006, 06:46 AM   #475
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Alas, Eomer shall be missed. Praise his memory for spotting both Lhuna and Kath! I'll start the donations for the Royal Eomer Memorial Concert Hall.
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Going through the posts, I noticed Celuien’s first analysis, on day one, was of men only, but she didn’t actually say so. What was all that about, Celuien? Why did you just analyse men?
Huh? What? Oh. I did. Actually, I didn't even think of that when I made the list. Pure coincidence. I guess that particular group that I'd been looking at was just the set that I'd noticed the most at the moment.

Actually, I'm more inclined even than before to think lmp innocent now. He did go after Lhuna pretty strongly, even before it would have been obvious to the Wolves by Farael's defense of her (well, at least from what we see in the village) that they were the Lovers. I'll go back over lmp's posts later.

Agree that TGWBS is definitely looking suspicious now that we know 2/4 wolves at a minimum were indeed female. I'll be watching him closely.

Okay. I'll be back in a few hours.
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Old 03-21-2006, 07:07 AM   #476
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my thoughts on Glirdan's posts

Glirdan:

DAY 1

#15 says that double lynches are useful to the wolves

#41 responds to Ang, overly heated, but that's in character for Glirdan

#44 defends tgwbs for his self-vote

#45 nothing of substance

#82 defends Farael against me; suspects Garin as part of an if-we-lynch-tar-ancalime scenario. Where did this come from?

#85 responds to Garin, who was responding to his #82

#90 says he'll probably vote for Garin

#95 sums up the votes so far; votes (fourth) for Garin, saying "his fate is sealed" and "I'm probably wrong on this"

#98 explains his vote farther: he meant to vote for Garin all along but didn't realize how many others still had yet to vote (?)

#101 nothing of substance; refers to himself as a villager

DAY 2

#167 offers to analyze Valier and Caranlondien

#168 analysis of Valier; questions why she voted for him instead of Formendacil

#171 analysis of Caranlondien; casts suspicion on her by misreading her post about "the true lumberjack" as referring to Anguirel; says this makes her vote for Ang look suspicious

#192 apologizes to Caranlondien for #171; defends his new, more active posting style; suspects Naria for being quiet

#235 a smorgasbord of defenses, accusations, and strategy. Here's a sample:
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I'm not so sure that they would completely forget about framing the rest of us. But I do agree that they probably far more interested in findig the Seers then framing us. Yet, I think that they would (subconciously mind you) still attempt to frame others. I find that this would be a pretty good way of smoking out a Seer. If someone attacked one who was an innocent and the Seer knew that person was innocent, I believe that the automatic reaction would be to defend that person. In doing so, the Wolves would go for that person. That seems to be the case with what happened to Ang.
Defends his "new style" again, more than once. Reads Lhuna's "damned if I do, damned if I don't" comment as a confession--this looked silly at the time, but now I'm wondering how he knew that.
After a quote from Formendacil, regarding Samwise, Glirdan says he's suspicious of Gurthang. Huh?
Says Cailin and Formendacil are the Lovers; accuses Cailin of being jealous of all the attention Lhuna is getting.
Defends himself against Eomer; this is the most serious matter in the post and he leaves it till last. Eomer is saying that Ang's death looked bad for Glirdan (Ang voted for Glirdan on Day 1.) Looks much more relevant after Eomer's death, no?

#243 says he'll correct the error in #235 (in which he accuses Gurthang instead of Formendacil; the error stands). This error, imho, makes #235 look even stranger: it means he's accusing Formendacil+Lhuna and Formendacil+Cailin of being Lovers. Says he's not surprised at the suspicion against him.

#245 votes for Naria for being quiet

DAY 3

#338 attributes my statement to Thinlomien (maybe not so bad, but it does cheese me off); weighs in on the early version of tgwbs's plan (says it's unlikely that the wolves will continue to attack a female each night, using Ang's death as evidence); defends himself against Eomer again. Again, this is the most serious thing in the post, and again he buries it at the bottom. Says he's going to analyze spawn and eonwe.

#340 analysis of eonwe. I thought this was odd at the time, and I still think it's odd now. Eonwe was (a) innocent, and (b) lynched. No need to figure out why he's dead from his posts; wouldn't it make more sense to look at his accusers? Could this be another attempt to seem helpful without really contributing anything? (Someone else mentioned this in reference to his analyses of Valier and Caranlondien, each of whom had posted about three times at the time of his investigations.)

#351 a partial analysis of spawn's posts; draws no conclusions at all but notes that spawn said he was "acting like usual."

#399 finishes his analysis of spawn; decides that she likely didn't dream of either Lhuna or Kath.

#412 says he doesn't know whom to vote for. Notes that there are cases against both Lhuna and Kath; says there's not much pointing to Kath as a wolf; thinks Kath or Naria is the (non-wolf) Lover.

#414 says Kath is a wolf and votes for her

DAY 4

not here yet

This looks pretty bad for Glirdan in my opinion. I'd welcome alternative analyses, though. (I've made my editorial comments as I went along.)
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Old 03-21-2006, 09:35 AM   #477
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Tar-Ancalime's analysis of Glirdan puts him on my top suspect list. So right now I'm most suspicious of TGWBS, Formendacil, and Glirdan. As for innocents, I'm inclined to trust Gurthang and tar-ancalime; as someone else said, I'd like to trust LMP, but I'm not convinced yet. I'll be back in a few hours, hopefully with a more substantial analysis.

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I'm also ready to eliminate Caran because a)she's a newbie and b) she's posted quite a bit with substantial posts and is helping the village greatly.

??? Care to explain a bit?
(Lommy)

Yes, that puzzled me too. Then I realised he meant "eliminate from my suspect list" rather than "lynch".

Anyway, more thoughts in a moment.
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:35 AM   #479
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What of TGWBS? On the one hand, Lhuna’s willingness to leave him in the lurch, lynchwise, on day one, speaks for his innocence. But his actions yesterDay don’t look good to me. With two women being the most likely seer suspects, he insists that we vote for the men. Is he (as I think Farael, who knew the wolves, actually said!) lone male wolf among three females, and is this his way of proving to his lady friends that he is not a traitor?
I think so. Who but a werewolf would make finding the Lovers top priority?

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One other point. The Day before yesterDay, we had three unlikely babes in the wood – LMP, Form and Samwise – all seemingly realising with shock that lovers would reveal things to each other. I wondered whether this wide-eyed innocence was a ploy by at least one of them – to the extent that I re-posted my surprise, in a deliberately barbed way, hoping to gauge the reaction it got.
Quite simply, I had not thought about it until then. Sorry for taking offense at your offensive (to the male gender) post. Actually, your little test was flawed, because now you can't be sure whether we three reacted to your male bashing or your query as to the three of us. Too bad; I would have liked to know.

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Going through the posts, I noticed Celuien’s first analysis, on day one, was of men only, but she didn’t actually say so. What was all that about, Celuien? Why did you just analyse men?
Good question. She is one of the more suspicious based on voting records. More about that when I can compile my notes...

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And all praise to the late Eomer.
Agreed. His voting record (except for Day 1 when I did no better) was stellar.

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I am currently most uncomfortable with Form, TGWBS and LMP, in that order.
Good. A healthy analysis of the three of us should point you in the right direction.
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:44 AM   #480
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Well I am so glad that the double lynch worked out as well as it did! I was not overly suspisious of Kath...but that shows how much I know. Eomer was not someone I thought the wolves would kill yet. I shall be back in a few hours to go over things.( gotta go to class)
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