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Old 06-08-2019, 12:14 PM   #6681
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Oh dear, that's a high bar. I'm afraid this doesn't even come close to clearing it.

1. "I turn... into my gold!" the son declared.
2. I am the king, I am angry, I
3. "We are fair as one!" he said; find the end of his title.
4. Identify a neverending stream for the princess.
5. No way you'll hear the bearer in here.
6. In (very) bad Spanish, her name is what she has.
7. "Eee, not greater," the restorer said, turning tail.

(Mostly first letters, those which aren't do say as much. No anagrams, but a lot of soundalikes.)

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Old 06-08-2019, 12:19 PM   #6682
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Old 06-08-2019, 12:22 PM   #6683
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Seven letters, seven letters. What word beginning with M could possibly have seven letters?
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Old 06-08-2019, 12:29 PM   #6684
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't'ain't Maglor.

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Old 06-08-2019, 12:31 PM   #6685
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My sounds like Mae, as you made me realize with your last puzzle. *looks at Huinesoron suspiciously*
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Old 06-08-2019, 12:32 PM   #6686
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It kinda does, doesn't it?

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Old 06-08-2019, 12:33 PM   #6687
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Old 06-08-2019, 12:35 PM   #6688
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Hmmmm.....gilt for gold, inside, turn

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Old 06-08-2019, 12:42 PM   #6689
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All right, time to end my pretense that I don't know what you mean.


1. Maeglin (Mae+Gilt-T+N)
4. Idril (ID, from identify + Rill - L)
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Old 06-08-2019, 12:51 PM   #6690
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Or is 1 Turin (from 'I TURN')?
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Old 06-08-2019, 01:54 PM   #6692
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Is 3 a soundalike of AR-PHARAZON?
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Old 06-08-2019, 03:08 PM   #6693
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7. Erestor (RESTORER turned)
Nope. I did say no anagrams.

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All right, time to end my pretense that I don't know what you mean.

1. Maeglin (Mae+Gilt-T+N)
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4. Idril (ID, from identify + Rill - L)
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3. Feanor (FER+A+ON)
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Or is 1 Turin (from 'I TURN')?
It is not. The ellipsis is significant.

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Is 3 a soundalike of AR-PHARAZON?
It is indeed! 'Are fair-as-one', but we don't need the first letter...

1. "I turn... into my gold!" the son declared.
2. I am the king, I am angry, I
AR-PHARAZON - "We are fair as one!" he said; find the end of his title.
IDRIL - Identify a neverending stream for the princess.
5. No way you'll hear the bearer in here.
6. In (very) bad Spanish, her name is what she has.
7. "Eee, not greater," the restorer said, turning tail.

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Old 06-08-2019, 03:38 PM   #6694
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Ar-Pharazon, Idril......


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Old 06-08-2019, 04:01 PM   #6697
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6 is a very hard one. Is Lobelia Spanish for spoons or something?
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Old 06-10-2019, 02:41 AM   #6699
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7. Elessar (E+LESSER)
Exactly right. ^_^ And using the last letter (all others are first letters from now on).

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1. Mae+In+Gold?
I'm... not even sure what name you were trying to spell out here, but it's wrong.

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Ar-Pharazon, Idril......

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6 is a very hard one. Is Lobelia Spanish for spoons or something?
Not as far as I know. My Spanish is really, really bad; I'm the sort of person who would go into a bar and order 'UNO... BEERS... SI?'. (For the purposes of this clue, anyway...)

1. "I turn... into my gold!" the son declared.
2. I am the king, I am angry, I
AR-PHARAZON - "We are fair as one!" he said; find the end of his title.
IDRIL - Identify a neverending stream for the princess.
5. No way you'll hear the bearer in here.
6. In (very) bad Spanish, her name is what she has.
ELESSAR "Eee, not greater," the restorer said, turning tail.

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Old 06-10-2019, 03:44 AM   #6700
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Not as far as I know. My Spanish is really, really bad; I'm the sort of person who would go into a bar and order 'UNO... BEERS... SI?'. (For the purposes of this clue, anyway...)
Bad enough for you to think ELWING is Spanish? (Just checking!)
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Bad enough for you to think ELWING is Spanish? (Just checking!)
SHE HAS EL WINGS, SI??? FLAPPY LA FLAPPY???

(To be clear this is a commentary on English people in Spain, not on the Spanish who I'm sure know their own language better than that.)

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Is #2 AMROTH?
He am wroth.

1. "I turn... into my gold!" the son declared.
AMROTH - I am the king, I am angry, I
AR-PHARAZON - "We are fair as one!" he said; find the end of his title.
IDRIL - Identify a neverending stream for the princess.
5. No way you'll hear the bearer in here.
ELWING - In (very) bad Spanish, her name is what she has.
ELESSAR "Eee, not greater," the restorer said, turning tail.

Two (and the password) to go.

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Hmmn. I think the password might be MARINER, in which case the known answers could be connected thus-

???
AMROTH- this one is tenuous. Amroth set foot on a ship, at least, though he didn't exactly voyage far...
AR-PHARAZÔN- descendant of Eärendil, the Mariner; had a fleet.
IDRIL- mother of Eärendil.
ELWING- wife of Eärendil.
???
ELESSAR- jewel worn by Eärendil; title of Aragorn II, another descendant.

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There is also Aldarion, but there is no M there....
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And 5 could be Tarannon, the ship-king
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Password: Mariner?
It is!

1. M - "I turn... into my gold!" the son declared.
AMROTH - I am the king, I am angry, I
AR-PHARAZON - "We are fair as one!" he said; find the end of his title.
IDRIL - Identify a neverending stream for the princess.
5. N - No way you'll hear the bearer in here.
ELWING - In (very) bad Spanish, her name is what she has.
ELESSAR "Eee, not greater," the restorer said, turning tail.

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Hmmn. I think the password might be MARINER, in which case the known answers could be connected thus-

???
AMROTH- this one is tenuous. Amroth set foot on a ship, at least, though he didn't exactly voyage far...
AR-PHARAZÔN- descendant of Eärendil, the Mariner; had a fleet.
IDRIL- mother of Eärendil.
ELWING- wife of Eärendil.
???
ELESSAR- jewel worn by Eärendil; title of Aragorn II, another descendant.
Amroth sailed 'far out to see'; he counts. Ar-Pharazon had a big ship, Idril sailed to Valinor, and so did Elwing (though she started further out to sea). Aragorn sailed on Umbar in service to Ecthelion. All the characters are actual mariners, though only one of the remaining two was necessarily any good at it.

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And 5 could be Tarannon, the ship-king
Are you just guessing sailors now? None of those.

In 1, you need to find two words that would fit into the ellipsis.

In 5, you're looking for someone really known for their boat connection, but by an uncommon name of theirs. Spotting the straight clue might also help.

And both of them begin with their password letter.

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The bearer is Frodo.....I think.....
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Are the words in ellipsis 'my water'?
'Water into gold', that well-known saying, leading to Tolkien's famous character Maewotor.

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Nope - but right kind of bearer!

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How about turning iron into gold, in which case, the answer is Mae+Iron = Mairon, who traveled via boat with good old Phary.
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So it's just "made voyages"? I'm still doubtful about the applicability to unwilling sailors who throw themselves overboard, but it's your call.

Is #5 NOWË (a name of Círdan)?
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How about turning iron into gold, in which case, the answer is Mae+Iron = Mairon, who traveled via boat with good old Phary.
Nope, not him. Is 'iron to gold' a common thing? Lead would be the usual metal, but it's not that either.

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So it's just "made voyages"? I'm still doubtful about the applicability to unwilling sailors who throw themselves overboard, but it's your call.
The sailing was always the plan, though; he just wanted it to happen later.

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Is #5 NOWË (a name of Círdan)?
No way! Yes, it is.

1. M - "I turn... into my gold!" the son declared.
AMROTH - I am the king, I am angry, I
AR-PHARAZON - "We are fair as one!" he said; find the end of his title.
IDRIL - Identify a neverending stream for the princess.
NOWË - No way you'll hear the bearer in here.
ELWING - In (very) bad Spanish, her name is what she has.
ELESSAR "Eee, not greater," the restorer said, turning tail.

(Running into that name made me wonder again about the names of the end-Cuivienen Eldar: Ingwe, Finwe, Elwe, Olwe, Nowe, Morwe, Nurwe. Were they all named [single syllable]-we - and if so, could we use this to deduce the maximum male population of Cuivienen, or perhaps just of this generation?

(The counter argument is Elmo, of course.)

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Copper? Stone?
You're just guessing random substances now.

I believe the idiom I'm using goes back to the Bible; it's certainly found in various hymns. No specific substance is named, and the context is more refining than alchemy.

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