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Old 09-18-2015, 12:07 PM   #2441
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They were great clues. Did you realise that 'twice noted' was both cryptic and straight when you wrote it?

The next password:

1. Old-fashioned sweetheart changes note in a tumult in the sky.
2. Letters lose approval, we hear, in the pass.
3. Direction found in muddied clay leads to the light.
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Old 09-18-2015, 01:16 PM   #2442
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1 is Menel. Leman-A + E equals Lemen. Switch that around and you get Menel, or the sky in Arda cosmology.

And with that alone, I say that the password is Mim.
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Old 09-18-2015, 01:48 PM   #2443
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MENEL: Old-fashioned sweetheart changes note in a tumult in the sky.
2. Letters lose approval, we hear, in the pass.
3. Direction found in muddied clay leads to the light.

Yes, you have one of the passwords. But I am not putting it in until you work out where it is.
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Old 09-18-2015, 02:11 PM   #2444
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3 is Ormal, loam+r, also switched to make a lamp.

Now to crack the 2nd.....I will crack it, I swear.....

Oh, and methinks the other password is Oin. Methinks someone is fascinated with dwarf names....

Well, despite not being able to crack it yet, I still say 2 is Cirith, elvish for pass.
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Old 09-18-2015, 03:09 PM   #2445
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They were great clues. Did you realise that 'twice noted' was both cryptic and straight when you wrote it?
No. I was only intending the cryptic part. Is he actually mentioned exactly twice? I remembered that he only appears very briefly, but I haven't thought of that. One time or three times were just as good to me.
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Old 09-18-2015, 03:30 PM   #2446
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He may be mentioned 3 times, but very close together.

Ormal is right, and so are Mim and Oin. Cirith is the correct pass, but it is not the answer to clue 2.
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Cirith Ungol?
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Old 09-18-2015, 03:53 PM   #2448
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No pass is the final answer. How about the rest of the clue?
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Old 09-18-2015, 03:55 PM   #2449
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Cirth? Cirith loses "aye"?
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Old 09-19-2015, 12:38 AM   #2450
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Yes!

And so over to Urwen.
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Old 09-19-2015, 12:43 AM   #2451
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MENEL: Old-fashioned sweetheart changes note in a tumult in the sky.
C IRTH: Letters lose approval, we hear, in the pass.
ORMAL: Direction found in muddied clay leads to the light.
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Old 09-19-2015, 02:26 AM   #2452
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Take a crack at this.

1. Sob in confusion for him
2. Rare metal follows proposition for him
3. Lady of the flies
4. A bruise in confusion followed by a material for her
5. Ancient city preceded by a chemical element for him
6. In confusion, Nordic poem loses a note followed by a reversed trunk for him
7. Female name is followed by a pronoun for her
8. Direction precedes confused flower for him
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Old 09-19-2015, 02:14 PM   #2453
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Old 09-19-2015, 02:32 PM   #2454
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ELENWE: Female name is followed by a pronoun for her
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Old 09-19-2015, 02:32 PM   #2455
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3. Elwing?

5. Orome?
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Old 09-19-2015, 02:36 PM   #2456
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Nope to 3. It's far easier than that.

1. Sob in confusion for him
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3. Lady of the flies
4. A bruise in confusion followed by a material for her
OROME: Ancient city preceded by a chemical element for him
6. In confusion, Nordic poem loses a note followed by a reversed trunk for him
ELENWE: Female name is followed by a pronoun for her
8. Direction precedes confused flower for him
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:10 AM   #2457
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3. Shelob? Metaphorical flies?

8. There are so many flowers of both kinds, but I will try SAEROS, s plus a rose, although I doubt if there should be an article as well as the bloom/river.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:03 AM   #2458
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3. Shelob? Metaphorical flies?

8. There are so many flowers of both kinds, but I will try SAEROS, s plus a rose, although I doubt if there should be an article as well as the bloom/river.
Nope. For 3, try finding synonyms for 'lady' and 'flies' and that will give you the answer. For 8, the flower is a Tolkien flower.
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Old 09-23-2015, 01:58 PM   #2459
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I can make GALADRIEL from the word GLIDE and the woman's name LARA, but the clue says flies, not fly, and Lara is a girl's name, not an anagram for lady.
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Okay, 3 is the wife of certain farmer, and 8 is an Easterling.
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Old 09-23-2015, 04:04 PM   #2461
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Farmer Cotton's wife is called Lily, I think. Farmer Maggot's wife isn't named, and I don't think Farmer Giles is married.
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Old 09-23-2015, 04:13 PM   #2462
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8. Lorgan. L + Narog (confused).
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Old 09-23-2015, 04:17 PM   #2463
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Nimrodel for the password.

So therefore Mrs Maggot for Lady of the flies - maggots are the larva form of flies, and I guess Mrs for lady.
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Old 09-24-2015, 02:31 AM   #2464
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1. Sob in confusion for him
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MRS. MAGGOT: Lady of the flies
4. A bruise in confusion followed by a material for her
OROME: Ancient city preceded by a chemical element for him
6. In confusion, Nordic poem loses a note followed by a reversed trunk for him
ELENWE: Female name is followed by a pronoun for her
LORGAN: Direction precedes confused flower for him

Password is correct. I wanted to make her the password for a long time.
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Old 09-24-2015, 11:20 AM   #2465
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Is 4 Rose Cotton, with sore as the answer to bruise?

I still think 6 can only start DAE, (Edda minus D), but the only person I can find is the well-known Daeron, and I can't find a way for NOR to mean trunk.
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Old 09-24-2015, 01:57 PM   #2466
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1. Sob in confusion for him
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MRS. MAGGOT: Lady of the flies
ROSE COTTON: A bruise in confusion followed by a material for her
OROME: Ancient city preceded by a chemical element for him
6. In confusion, Nordic poem loses a note followed by a reversed trunk for him
ELENWE: Female name is followed by a pronoun for her
LORGAN: Direction precedes confused flower for him

For 6, thinks about my previous passwords and clues in them that involved wood.
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I still think 6 can only start DAE, (Edda minus D), but the only person I can find is the well-known Daeron, and I can't find a way for NOR to mean trunk.
Huh, I tried that too with no luck.
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Old 09-25-2015, 02:35 AM   #2468
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Is there a Daedor?
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No, but there is someone else. Maybe this would help

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Old 09-25-2015, 03:30 AM   #2470
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Deagol. Could not think of any Dea starting names and forgot about log.
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Farmer Cotton's wife is called Lily, I think. Farmer Maggot's wife isn't named, and I don't think Farmer Giles is married.
Farmer Giles was married I am not certain of her name (Agatha has popped in to my head) but IIRC getting round her was a long walk.
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1. Sob in confusion for him
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MRS. MAGGOT: Lady of the flies
ROSE COTTON: A bruise in confusion followed by a material for her
OROME: Ancient city preceded by a chemical element for him
DEAGOL: In confusion, Nordic poem loses a note followed by a reversed trunk for him
ELENWE: Female name is followed by a pronoun for her
LORGAN: Direction precedes confused flower for him
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1. Namo, from moan?
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Could 2 be Ingold? I thought the proposition bit would have to be idea, but that doesn't seem to work for this clue. If you propose something you're in? (Not sure).
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NAMO Sob in confusion for him
INGOLD: Rare metal follows proposition for him
MRS. MAGGOT: Lady of the flies
ROSE COTTON: A bruise in confusion followed by a material for her
OROME: Ancient city preceded by a chemical element for him
DEAGOL: In confusion, Nordic poem loses a note followed by a reversed trunk for him
ELENWE: Female name is followed by a pronoun for her
LORGAN: Direction precedes confused flower for him

And you're up.
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Old 09-25-2015, 02:28 PM   #2476
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And so is the next password!

1. Forest lord meets a matriarch in a muddle!
2. Behold! A twelvemonth.
3. An obsessed philologist, when bothered, can be a bit of a monster!
4. He sounds like the knowledge of journals.
5. One frost maiden.
6. Censure without appliance. Wayward thing!
7. Mixed scoop for him?
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Heh, I like #3! Made me chuckle.

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Old 09-25-2015, 07:06 PM   #2478
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Just thought, Urwen ... was proposition a typo for preposition?
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Not sure of this one, but want to put it out - Neldoreth for #1?
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Old 09-25-2015, 08:49 PM   #2480
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And 2. Loa?

7. Posco? (Not sure if this character exists, but sounds like a Hobbit)
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