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Nerwen Why must you be so darn reasonable
![]() ![]() I'm looking back over her posts and her vote for Mnem seems logical but.... She's so hard to read... Also doesn't help I always feel sweet talked by her... ![]() Hmm... Mac seems too polite and doesn't fight back enough for me to call wolf Today... Mnem and Sally are at this particular point most bothersome but Sally's just being Sally it seems Mnem on the other hand holds different people to different standards but seems not so much wolfish as a new playmate for Sally... Shasta- Still waiting on your rational for voting Inzil I looked over your posts didn't find Anything about him. Shasta's a top contender... unless I see something else I know where my votes going.
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Well just two general comments first...
Looking at the number of grammatical hair-splitting one would think this is a cruise for humanists and not biologists. ![]() There was an odd amount of voting yesterDay where people suspected two others and then decided to vote for the one they suspected less by arguments... Mac: I'm not suspecting you that heavily (I think you were only the fourth on my list). But your seeming need to defend yourself all the time looks a bit eyebrow-raising as I don't think you're the number one candidate to be lynched toDay anyway. Quote:
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Then again, that's not conclusive of anything. Eomer does set off some warning bells though because of that, and a general feeling I have from the way he appears to be trying to lie low. x/d with several-fixed the second quote to indicate it was Boro's
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Ice to see you all.
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All right, Morsul, I see how you could read those statements that way. Maybe.
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Why's everybody so jumpy? Mnemo, for one, as Nerwen pointed out. And Sally too? Who's really been threatening to lynch her? And Mnemo has got about as many defenders as accusers.
Mnemo and Sally's little exchange is interesting. Awkward, sort of, and makes me raise my eyebrows. Not sure what to make of it, though. Sally seems innocent since she continues that joke a bit over the top (I'm not sure if she'd dare to do that as a wolf) but Mnemo is a bit more worrying case. I mean, the carefulness in which she states that Sally can or can not answer is slightly weird... Morsul, you seem more and more innocent to me all the time, but I will change my opinion if you keep posting such horribly long quotes! ![]() Sally's case on Brinn is quite interesting and I can see it having some merit. Although, if Brinn seems suspicious to me, she's most probably innocent because when she's guilty I never suspect her... ![]() Nienna, I was sort of torn about Nog and Roa, because at first it looked so fabricated (because although they always quarrell, it's normally not this rash and blind) and then not so much... I wanted to give them more time to get a better picture of them, although back by the end of the Day I was thinking that everybody should "get more time" as much as them so I considered voting Nogrod. Quote:
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It must be a Finnish thing.
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Mnemo, suspect me all you want, but this is weak. So it's suspicious that I post in small spread-out chunks, right (among other things, but those have been commented on by others in the meantime)? I'm sure you can do better.
I'll tell you why I do that (and I've been doing it in the last two games or so). I'm a really slow writer, because I think with my fingers on the keyboard, and a bit of a perfectionist too, and I've realized that trying to make comprehensive lists or lengthy posts of any substance and follow an agitated discussion at the same time is just hopeless for me - either I lose sight of what's going on at same time, or I never get anything posted. So I'm trying to do it this way - post a chunk, read on, go back, post another chunk, etc. as they come. And I intend to go on with it, if you don't mind. And now I'd rather start thinking about who to vote toDay.
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Morsul -
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As far as voting goes, I haven't seen anything to sway me away from Nerwen, so she's probably who (whom?) I'll be voting. I'll be here through deadline, though.
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Boro quoted me here:
"There are a number of shady characters around here, and I don't want to add a new person to the voting list." Quote:
And also on my list were Pitch, Brinn and Lommy. Surely, you see my point that I didn't want to vote for one of them? I effectively gave myself a shortlist of 4 and picked one.
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Sorry Lommy I just prefer my arguments in context
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Ooh, the next jumpy player around. Soon we'll have four ie all the wolves.
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Not so much suspicious as annoying, Pitch. But it's also a tactic that's very easy for a wolf to hide behind because it can look as if you're saying more than you actually are. So not objectively wrong in and of itself, but combined with the other matters...
Yes, weak, but all the other cases I came up with last night were even weaker. Hopefully toMorrow I'll be able to start shifting my eyes elsewhere as we get more and more substance... and more knowledge of roles, and a death choice (unless, of course, we get a Ranger save). But I wanted to try to explain to myself why I was feeling odd about you yesterday, and I found more evidence for you than anyone else I looked at.
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Is that an anagram of Nerwen?
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Shasta
YesterDay 46. Summarized the Day: Boro v. Roa on ‘Reasonableness’ 47. In character but the deadline is weird for him 68. Calls Morsul wishy-washy and fence sitting 137. Points against Nog for being definitive in his suspicion against Roa, point against Eomer for subtly backing Nog up, point for Roa for her reaction to Nog, point against Nog for wild accusations on flimsy evidence, point for Roa… not sure why, point for Nog for giving a more accurate representation of what Boro said, 3 points against Nog for bringing up something her shouldn’t really bring up anyway, point against Roa for the Nog-Cobbler theory because it’s a stretch. Nog has now cleared up some ambiguities and he’d rather not vote for him, he won’t vote Roa but would be willing to vote Eomer. This is an interesting post… I think it is a good analysis of the Nog/Roa thing giving them each criticisms 142-3. Clarifying for Nog 171. Votes for Zil, would rather not see Mac or Mnemo go I voted for him for the same reason so I cannot fault it. ToDay: 220. Isn’t really buying Boro’s ‘this isn’t how I play as a wolf’ act, didn’t vote for Zil because Mac suggested it, defends not throwing away his vote Seems reasonable (do with that what you will) 234. Notices a weird phrasing by Brinn, Newen’s vote was mostly out of nowhere, at the last moment, and would have sealed Mac’s fate. He doesn’t trust Nerwen I disagree with the point about Brinn’s phrasing as it made perfect sense to me. I do think that Nerwen’s vote was a little dodgy. 256. Agrees that his point against Brinn might be a bit of a stretch In Summary: I’m not sure why he was ringing alarm bells for me… he seems to be making reasonable points, his thing about Brinn was a stretch but he knows that… I’m going to just have to keep watching him. Edit: Crossed.
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I believe he was voting to save Mac and Mnemo not necessarily to kill Zil... does that make sense? ...and Shasta feel free to correct me as I'm speaking about something that might be untrue.
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Votes... Voters
Lommy... Loslote not really a reason given Boro... Trom bad feeling boo's too open Pitch... Mnem only one with "concrete evidence" Mnem... Nerwen Reasons already stated Loslote... Brinn No better candidates ZIl.. Boro giving Eomer more time Lommy-1 Boro-1 Pitch-1 Mnem-1 Loslote-1 Zil-1 And I agree with pitch that post doesn't explain anything as far as I can tell...
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Yes, Wilwa, that is deadline.
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Wiiillwaaaa wilwa...
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Sorry but I had to make a fast late-dinner before continuing...
EDIT: Heh, Morsul seems to have done this already but well... I'll post this anyway. Lottie -> Lommy (says first she is suspicious but says also she has no reason for suspecting her, then later refers to her two posts without any comment on them and just votes her) trom -> Boro (“because he's so open about the fact of, 'this isn't the way Boro-wolf would act.'”) Mnemo -> Pitch (based on her analysis on him) Nerwen -> Mnemo (she’s gone off the rails on D2 and her “rational reasons” to vote for Pitch are bad) Brinn -> Lottie (because of her odd vote for Lommy) Boro -> Inzil (because Inzil’s “case” yesterday was not only weak but faulty and he has dsone nothing today to make Boro change his mind) No one can't say we are not able to spread votes enough... ![]() Looking only at toDay's votes Lottie's & Mnemo's votes look the worst - and I must say that Boro's vote is actually a bit "lame" - if you get what I mean. I mean with all his participation, is that the best he can come up with?
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Despite lingering misgivings about Boro and due to a forced break from Mac, I think Mnemo, Eomer, and Lottie still look the worst to me. I want to re-check Lottie, to see if anything about her strikes me, beyond the obviously flimsy vote for Lommy.
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Boro said:
"I'm pretty sure that wasn't a list of substantial people who disagreed/spoke out against, if it's the post I'm thinking you're thinking ... than I was telling Nerwen all the people who commented on it." But here's the quotation: Quote:
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So everyone's just been doing lists for the past While, especially vote counts and voter lists... I honestly cannot think of anything to say on those... not till the commitment of an actual VOTE!
Could we please get some more of those, please? It's hard to tell where the game's going otherwise. Not that it matters for me, now... Can you people tell I hate being unavailable for the last hour? ![]()
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Voting-wise it seems Mnemo has made two quite odd votes.
I don't get Mnemo's suspicion on Pitch that because he posts in "chunks" he's suspicious. Quite a strech - not the first one in this game though... But I think some of Pitchie's posting does look odd and over-careful - at least yesterDay. Here are two prime examples: Quote:
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LEANING INNOCENT:
Boromir88 - I still have a good feeling about him. Eomer - Seems generally innocentish and makes a lot of sense. He gives a rather calculated impression, though, and I haven't played with him often enough to know if that's a normal state of things or not. Brinn - Leaning good. Macalaure - Good vibes. Thinlómien - Seems her usual flip-floppy self. NEITHER INNOCENT NOR GUILTY, OR BOTH: Inziladun - I don't know if it's about him being slippery or me being negligent and careless, but I can't get a read on him even though he contributes a fair deal. Morsul - No idea. Pitchwife - My gut says innocent, my logic says "too agreeable, too contributing without rubbing anyone the wrong way, baaaaad". I just realised (and again, may be partly due to my own unfocused reading) that while I remember him posting actively, I can't recall a single thing he's said. It isn't that he hasn't said anything, it's that he hasn't said stuff that would have been contradictory or wrong-feeling or weird or different enough to stick to my memory. Nienna - Securely under my radar. Nogrod - Eurgh. He was very very confusing yesterDay. His explanation about his behaviour towards Roa explained some of it. ToDay he has seemed more in his senses. I'll be watching him, but he's off the hook for now. sally - No idea whatsoever. Nerwen - I agree with Morsul that she's too darn reasonable. No idea what her role might be. Bes - Under my radar. Shasta - No idea, for some reason or another. wilwa - Too little to go on. tromkehra - Likewise. WARY OF: Mnemosyne - Argh. I think I babbled enough about her in my previous post, but let's shorten it here for clarity's sake: yesterDay she was too agreeable and calculated, toDay she seems more than a bit off. Loslote - Confuses me a lot. Her suspicions are completely weird, but I'm trying to decide whether it's a sign of wolvery or not. ---- I'm rather worried about the size of my no idea -section. I'd believe, somehow, that at this point of the game I'd have more suspicions, but I don't. I don't know why exactly that is. It's either that my wolf-spotting sucks in this game or we have wolves who are too good for me. It looks as if I'm going to vote Mnemo again. Her, at least, I'm suspicious of. EDIT: eurgh x-ed with a host... since my previous post, actually. ![]()
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Boro-1 Pitch-1 Mnem-1 Loslote-1 Zil-1 Nerwen-1 What if eveyone gets one vote? then what? ![]()
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To keep Mnemo occupied
Pancakes.
Anyway, here's a list from me. I limited myself to four wolves and it was really really hard, but there's....well, you can see the categories. Wolves: Brinn Lommie Nerwen Eomer Possible wolves: Nienna Nog (meh) Pitch Shasta Greenie Lottie Dunno: Mnemo Dun (possible possible but was too shifty on him so I put him here) Morsul Mac Boro Innocent/nothing: Bes Kehra Wilwa Sally (the former rather than the latter, of course) EDIT: x'd with 2/3 of the House of Finns and Morsul. Also, I need to check over Lommie and Lottie again because I may have flipped them in my list. I'll check to be sure.
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Nienna and Shasta - I understand voting to save somebody you'd like to keep, but on the other hand, giving somebody else their 2nd or 3rd vote instead with no given case behind it doesn't exactly look obviously innocent to me.
Otherwise, I must say I've nothing against either of you at the moment. P.S. Just saw Shasta's vote. Is that a classic example of voting those who're too reasonable, or what? *confused*
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