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Old 10-19-2016, 07:59 AM   #1
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Beren and Lùthien to be published as stand alone volume

Though not as single narrative.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/wha...ished-in-2017/
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:10 AM   #2
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Nice! A definite addition to my Tolkien collection.

I hope that doesn't provide more of an impetus for PJ or his ilk to capitalize on a film version though,
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My reaction is a bit ambivalent.

I was disappointed by Kullervo and I think that release gave me a bit of a sour taste of releasing more of Tolkien's obscure work.

I hope there is some new information and not just a rehash of the information that has already been published in other works.

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From the description, it sounds like "History of the Tale of Beren and Luthien." It almost sounds as if there will be no material that has not been published previously.

{Edit} From the AFP report:

"For the book the tale of lovers Beren and Lúthien was extracted from "The History of Middle-earth", a 12-volume series of works that collected and analyzed material relating to Tolkien's work, compiled and edited by his son Christopher Tolkien."



"Christopher Tolkien has edited the new work and presented together for the first time Tolkien's original text as well as passages from later texts that rework the tale."
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"Christopher Tolkien has edited the new work and presented together for the first time Tolkien's original text as well as passages from later texts that rework the tale."
Sounds like what CT did for The Children of Húrin, melding different versions of the story together. I'm still likely to buy it, just as I did CoH.
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Sounds like what CT did for The Children of Húrin, melding different versions of the story together. I'm still likely to buy it, just as I did CoH.
I'm sure I will too.

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Sounds like what CT did for The Children of Húrin, melding different versions of the story together. I'm still likely to buy it, just as I did CoH.
From what I underrstand, it's rather the reverse of TCOH. Whereas that one took varying texts and knitted together a single narrative- rather like the '77 Silmarillion itself - B&L, AIUI, will for the first time give the unedited texts which went into the Silmarillion, and which (in the case of the 1937 versions) CT skipped over in Vol V of HME except for a few notes.

It is, I suppose, in a way a small version of an idea I suggested to him but which he didn't like, to put out a sort of Unfinished Tales II or HME Reader which covers just the more significant narratives- the A-text of B&L, the Wanderings of Hurin and so on.
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Nice! A definite addition to my Tolkien collection.

I hope that doesn't provide more of an impetus for PJ or his ilk to capitalize on a film version though,
Wouldn't they be limited to what references can be found in the appendix of LotR?

Even for PJ and crew, that would be a bit of a stretch.
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Wouldn't they be limited to what references can be found in the appendix of LotR?

Even for PJ and crew, that would be a bit of a stretch.
Perhaps that is exactly why C. Tolkien is releasing this book and thus prolonging the copyright to the entire compilation of Beren and Luthien stories. Thus the estate's lawyers can ensure Jackson or whomever doesn't try to dip into the story.
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Perhaps that is exactly why C. Tolkien is releasing this book and thus prolonging the copyright to the entire compilation of Beren and Luthien stories. Thus the estate's lawyers can ensure Jackson or whomever doesn't try to dip into the story.
I hope Christopher Tolkien lives forever, then. So we never have to deal with a film adaption ever again.

That being said, I am trash and I will most certainly be buying this book.
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Old 10-20-2016, 04:34 AM   #11
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Tolkien An interesting thread

Thanks for posting this news, Mithalwen.

While I'm a little ambivalent, like Kuruharan, having bought The Children of Húrin, I probably will buy this one too.

I was interested in what you had to say about copyright, Morthoron.

I've already posted this elsewhere; but the link below gives an amusing (or worse) idea about what Peter Jackson adapting The Silmarillion might look and sound like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFMwOu8_jsE
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