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11-14-2014, 03:03 AM | #1 | ||
Shade of Carn Dûm
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That you have a quasi-religious faith that Tom Bombadil can be explained is your own quasi-religious faith, not mine. Similarly I have no quasi-religious faith that Huckleberry Finn’s mother will ever be explained or that there any point in imagining details. Perhaps she was whore. Or perhaps she and ‘Pap’ were two young lovers or a man and wife deeply in love, and then she died of scarlet fever. I don’t have to invent theories for a literary work which does not explain them. You want to invent theories, do so yourself instead of merely preaching. Last edited by jallanite; 11-14-2014 at 03:16 AM. |
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11-14-2014, 03:09 AM | #2 | |
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This is basically just getting back and forth, so we should stop this debate for the ease of future readers. Spamming up a thread is always frustrating when trying to find useful information. |
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11-14-2014, 03:29 AM | #3 | |
Shade of Carn Dûm
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The problem is not that Tom is an enigma or a puzzle, but whether there is a solution, an explanation that will cover Tom entirely. No explanation has yet appeared that covers all that is shown. Provide one, or admit that your quasi-religious faith has no foundation. |
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11-14-2014, 04:07 AM | #4 | ||
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Of course there has not yet been an explanation that covers everything, because even some characters with a lot of substance, like Gimli, haven't been explained 100%. I do not appreciate these assumptions that I believe what I am advocating, because I don't personally think that Bombadil will ever be explained due to the fact that Tolkien probably didn't write anything about him, even though I enjoy seeing the theories people come up with. I especially don't appreciate these insults, either, and I will politely ask you to refrain from aggressively toned arguments. Quote:
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11-14-2014, 09:25 AM | #5 | ||
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I promised myself long ago I will not get tangled in a discussion about Tom again because it tends to get too heated with the clashing philosophical views (that are, as you point out, completely irrelevant to the rationale behind Tom's origin) - and look where that got me. I would be more than willing to put it to rest.
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11-14-2014, 10:08 AM | #6 | |
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I have, after sending a message to Tar-Jêx, put him on my ignore list, so I will not have to see so much that he alone posts that I greatly disagree with. Last edited by jallanite; 11-14-2014 at 10:13 AM. |
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11-14-2014, 12:59 PM | #7 |
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You know, when one disagrees with the premise of a topic, that's fine. Make a comment about why, if you wish, then move on. Denigrating those who disagree is uncalled for. If one dislikes a topic, the sensible thing to do is to ignore it, and leave it for others who do not share one's views.
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