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Old 08-10-2001, 07:21 AM   #41
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Re: Celebrimbor's capture: I think it's in UT, &quot;Concerning Galadriel and Celeborn&quot;.

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Old 08-12-2001, 11:38 PM   #42
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Morgoth
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Old 08-16-2001, 09:02 AM   #43
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We might need a hint, Telchar

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Old 08-17-2001, 02:12 AM   #44
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OK - HINT #1: Something happened to 4 of them that didn't happen to the 5th

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Was Feanor not maimed with a sword(s)?

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Old 08-19-2001, 11:19 PM   #46
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NOPE

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Barahir - Never met a valar, or saw the light? <img src=smile.gif ALT="">

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Old 08-20-2001, 11:18 PM   #48
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Nope - but good guess!



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HINT: Morgoth, Beren, Dwarfs, Isildur

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Morgoth never had a child? (I hope)

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Good guess too, Halbarad, maybe reading the cluees one more time helps??? <img src=smile.gif ALT="">



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Stonehearted indeed. <img src=smile.gif ALT="">

Does the answer have to do with jewel robbery? Morgoth, Thingol, Sauron and Barahir had rings or Silmarils taken from them by force. Fëanor lost the Silmarils to Morgoth, of course, but wasn't present at the robbery.

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I'll give you that one - Actually I thought Barahir was odd out because nobody never stole anything from him - he was actually killed before they took his hand (I hope <img src=frown.gif ALT=""> )
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OK, an easy one:

Fëanor
Fingolfin
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Finarfin is still alive?

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HE IS ??????

No that's not it.

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Hurin is the only man? <img src=smile.gif ALT="">

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Hurin - Because he had never been to Aman?

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Nope.

HINT: According to an old Irish saying, if he hasn't lost it already, a man loses his heart when this happens to him.

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HINT #2 -- it has to do with their families.

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Is it Finarfin because he has a living child?

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No.

Hint #3 --

4 of these fellows had a certain kind of relative, the odd man did not.

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Correct, Elenhin.

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Could it be that all of them fell when they died except for Gothmog?

-Ancalagon must have fallen from the skies.
-Gandalf cast Durin's Bane from the top of the endless stair.
-Glorfindel fell as he killed that Balrog.
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Sauron never saw the light of a Silmaril?
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That's very unlikely Elenhin, As Morgoth wore them in his crown for all of the first age - those two most have been face to face... + there is the evening star...

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When did Morgoth 'sail', then?

A nice try, but no.

A clue:
I could have included Radagast in the set, but not Fëanor.
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Was it Galadriel because she never changed her form?
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I just assumed that Morgoth sailed when he was taken prisoner and brought back to Valinor???
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Turambar has the answer I was looking for.

I hadn't considered sailing at all, at first. That was why I said that I couldn't have included Fëanor, though.

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Im a little at a loss here...

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