WHat do you reckon was the saddest part of the legendarium? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Elmo · 02-20-2009, 08:02 PM

"There at last when the mallorn leaves were falling, but spring had not yet come, she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea.”

I find it very sad the fact that Arwen was completely forgotten afterwards, almost like she didn't exist at all. Shows the pains of mortality etc. Pretty depressing for me anyway.

littlemanpoet · 02-20-2009, 11:50 PM

Smeagol on the verge of repentance, and Sam protective of his master calls him a sneak, pushing him back into being Gollum. The description of Smeagol just before this moment moves one to pity and hope, only to have it immediately dashed by the lovable but dense Sam. Ah me.

Melilot Brandybuck · 02-21-2009, 04:49 AM

Frodo tricking Smeagol into being captured by Faramir's men by the pool. Nobody's fault, it had to be done. But it showed that Smeagol, in a tiny corner of his mind, still could feel trust and in his own way, love.

When he knew he was captured, that trust was betrayed. Everytime I read that part, I get a little teary.

Vaine · 02-21-2009, 03:28 PM

The children of Hurin, in its wholeness.
When Beleg gets killed by Turin, when nienor commits suicide, when Hurin is set free and finds morwen. It all.

Mnemosyne · 02-23-2009, 02:36 AM

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Here ends the Silmarillion. If it has passed from the high and the beautiful to darkness and ruin, that was of old the fate of Arda Marred; and if any change shall come and the Marring be amended, Manwe and Varda may know; but they have not revealed it, and it is not declared in the dooms of Mandos.

Simple, bleak, and all-encapsulating.

skip spence · 02-23-2009, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vaine

The children of Hurin, in its wholeness.
When Beleg gets killed by Turin, when nienor commits suicide, when Hurin is set free and finds morwen. It all.

Yes. Another part that always gets me is when the broken Hurin goes to seek Gondolin, the city he marvelled at in his youth, then full of hope and dreams, only to find the sheer walls of Crissaegrim silent and the old escape-road blocked. He hopes to once again mark the eagles far above, but only sees dark clouds drifting in from the east.

Tuor in Gondolin · 02-23-2009, 08:37 AM

Close behind Sam's botching Gollum's repentence:

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Well, I'm back.

Although that's more bittersweet.

02-20-2009, 08:02 PM	#1
Elmo Pittodrie Poltergeist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trying to find that warm and winding lane again Posts: 641	WHat do you reckon was the saddest part of the legendarium? "There at last when the mallorn leaves were falling, but spring had not yet come, she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea.” I find it very sad the fact that Arwen was completely forgotten afterwards, almost like she didn't exist at all. Shows the pains of mortality etc. Pretty depressing for me anyway. __________________ As Beren looked into her eyes within the shadows of her hair, The trembling starlight of the skies he saw there mirrored shimmering. Last edited by Elmo; 02-21-2009 at 11:03 AM.

02-21-2009, 04:49 AM	#3
Melilot Brandybuck Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 35	Frodo tricking Smeagol into being captured by Faramir's men by the pool. Nobody's fault, it had to be done. But it showed that Smeagol, in a tiny corner of his mind, still could feel trust and in his own way, love. When he knew he was captured, that trust was betrayed. Everytime I read that part, I get a little teary. __________________ The original and best Mel B

02-20-2009, 11:50 PM	#2
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Smeagol on the verge of repentance, and Sam protective of his master calls him a sneak, pushing him back into being Gollum. The description of Smeagol just before this moment moves one to pity and hope, only to have it immediately dashed by the lovable but dense Sam. Ah me.

02-21-2009, 03:28 PM	#4
Vaine Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 67	The children of Hurin, in its wholeness. When Beleg gets killed by Turin, when nienor commits suicide, when Hurin is set free and finds morwen. It all.