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Old 09-08-2015, 06:03 AM   #41
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As I work through these text again I found some points missing:
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Then those of the Ainur who desired it arose and entered into the World at the beginning of Time; and it was their task to achieve it, and by their labours to fulfil the vision which they had seen. Long they laboured in the regions of E, which are vast beyond the thought of Elves and Men, until in the time appointed was made Arda, the Kingdom of Earth. Then they put on the raiment of Earth and descended into it, and dwelt therein Vala-00.3<Vq2 ; and they are therein>.
Even so Christopher Tolkien does not comment on this it seems that he skipt that half sentence editorially. I dont see a good reason for that and would reinstall it.
From the passage about Tulkas:
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He has little heed for either the past or the future, and is of no avail as a counsellor, but is a hardy friend. Vala-04.5<LQ2 He has great love for {Fionwe, son [>} Enw, herald{]} of Manwe.> His spouse is Nessa, the sister of Orom, and she also is lithe and fleetfooted.
This was skipt by JRR Tolkien from LQ2 to Vq1, but in view of the passages taken from Sil77 about Enw, I think we should also restore this addition.
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Above all the horns of his host it was heard in the woods that Yavanna brought forth in Valinor; for there Orom would train his folk and his beasts for the pursuit of the evil creatures of Melkor. Vala-05.2 {<Vq2 But the Valarma is not blown, and Nahar runs no more upon the Middle-earth since the change of the world and the waning of the Elves, whom he loved.>} The spouse of Orom is Vna, ...
Christopher Tolkien does not provide a reason why he removed that sentence, and we did not discuss it as fare as I could find. So my question is why shouldn't we reinstall it?

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Old 09-10-2015, 09:56 AM   #42
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Ok in everything, I think that the last sentence must be reinserted, it was written by Tolkien and as you said there's no reason to remove it.

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Old 09-18-2015, 02:38 AM   #43
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What about adding the Note on the "Language of the Valar" in the Valaquenta? I think it would be a nice addition.
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Old 09-18-2015, 10:06 AM   #44
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I would say yes it might be worth the effort.

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Old 09-08-2017, 06:33 PM   #45
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I have found a passage in the Note on the Language of the Valar that should be included. It is added into the last paragraph of the section Of the Valar.

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These are the names of the Valar and the Valier, and here is told in brief their likenesses, such as the Eldar beheld them in Aman. Vala-05.3 <Q&E Now the names that we have for the Valar or the Maiar, whether adapted from the Valarin or translated, are not right names but titles, referring to some function or character of the person; for though the Valar have right names, they do not reveal them. Save only in the case of Orom.> But fair and noble ...
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Old 09-09-2017, 04:35 PM   #46
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Nice find! I will take it up.

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BD-03 / Vala-07.2: In the discussion about chapter 1: Of the Beginig of Time Aiwendil supposed an addition from MT, Text VI. He himself speculated that it might batter fit in here. So I proposed these below given placement and editing. We agreed that the Valaquenta is the place for it. And that the editing should be discussed here.
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Last of all is set the name of Melkor, He who arises in Might. Vala-07.2 <MT, Text VI Melkor Vala-07.21{must be made}[was] far more powerfull in original nature Vala-07.22{ (cf. 'Finrod and Andreth')}. The greatest power under Eru Vala-07.23{(sc.} ; he was the greatest created power{)}.[Footnote to the text: Cf. Finrod's words in the Athrabeth{ (p. 322)}: 'there is no power conceivable greater than Melkor save Eru only'.] Vala-07.24{(}He was to make{ /}/,/ devise{ /}/,/ begin; Manw (a little less great) was to improve, carry out, complete.{)} >But {that}the name Melkor he has forfeited; and the Noldor, who among the Elves suffered most from his malice, will not utter it, ...
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