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Old 06-14-2001, 10:00 AM   #41
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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Motifs of Myth

This may have already been mentioned but Earendil and his ship being placed in the sky (like a star) recalls a couple of Greek myths where the same thing happens -- was it Cassiopoeia? Can't remember I'll look it up.

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Old 06-14-2001, 10:05 AM   #42
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Yes Cassiopeia was changed into the constellation of the same name at her death, and Astraea was changed to the constellation Virgo.


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Old 06-14-2001, 03:44 PM   #43
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Hey, how'd ya think I came up with that silly FanFic idea anyway <img src=wink.gif ALT="">

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Old 03-15-2003, 05:58 PM   #45
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The first time I saw LOTR, I was thinking, "cool, this stuff is just like The Ring!(the opera, NOT the new horror movie)"
There is the ring motive. A ring of ultimate power of dominance, but it's cursed and deadly to its bearers, yet all are tempted to pocesse it. I do thing Tolkien drew many motifs from the old Norse/Germen mythology. There are many similar plot devices, even similar scenes. I find the first meeting between Aragorn and Eowyn strikingly similar to that of Siegfried and Gutrune. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Old 03-18-2003, 12:02 PM   #46
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Tolkiens dislike of Shakespeare is congruous with his dislike of other "popular" British mythology, most of which are a bunch of mixed up Norman (French) based tales. The question is - which did he loath more: Disney or Shakespeare?
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Very interesting thread, raising lots of points I'd never thought of! Thank you all...
re Shakespeare, I think that Tolkien disliked drama in general, but I'm sure I've read a quote somewhere where he acknowledged Shakespeare's power of language and skill as a writer.
Re themes - I've mentioned on another thread the giving or refusing of a lock of hair by a golden haired woman - found in Njalssaga.
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