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Old 10-09-2019, 01:55 AM   #8281
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o.o I look away for one evening and the password tumbles like dominoes. Nice work to both of you.

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Old 10-09-2019, 02:08 AM   #8282
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NOLIMON: Nay, a fruit! Switch a vowel for him.
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MIRIEL: Finwe's daughter gains a path, for her.
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Old 10-09-2019, 10:54 AM   #8283
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Had this one planned for a while, but have only just now found time to write the clues for it. Hope you like it.

1. See him where the deer runs back and the alder wood begins.
2. This thing seems to lisp about where some random bloke has been supine!
3. ‘Mere nothingness!’ He’s in Angst, sure, or turmoil at the least, but is he really such a nihilist?
4. Someone who complains when fasting will really come unstuck here.
5. Here, a healthy water meadow meets Meduseld, perhaps.
6. ‘Alternatively, be gracious here,’ we heard.
7. A bad experience with caviar in the North? Well, somewhere. It’s appalling.
8. A biblical dude and an Amsterdam bloom get together – cacophonously – to trumpet its presence!
9. Desire good opinion here, despite losing an article in transition?
10. Here comes an equine hybrid carrying stoat furs? Sounds like it … pretty much.
11. Here, with a cruel, gloating shout, they ended the Maid of Orléans - give or take a couple of vowels.
12. Mixed rag hats are his style, perhaps?
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:31 AM   #8284
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#1: a deer could be a HART, which we can run back to get TRAH + ALD = a Smeagol by any other name (would still smell of fish).

#10... I think stoat fur is ERMINE, and the one real equine hybrid I know is a MULE... getting them in that order takes me right to the EMYN MUIL.

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Old 10-10-2019, 04:32 AM   #8285
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TRAHALD: See him where the deer runs back and the alder wood begins.
2. This thing seems to lisp about where some random bloke has been supine!
3. ‘Mere nothingness!’ He’s in Angst, sure, or turmoil at the least, but is he really such a nihilist?
4. Someone who complains when fasting will really come unstuck here.
5. Here, a healthy water meadow meets Meduseld, perhaps.
6. ‘Alternatively, be gracious here,’ we heard.
7. A bad experience with caviar in the North? Well, somewhere. It’s appalling.
8. A biblical dude and an Amsterdam bloom get together – cacophonously – to trumpet its presence!
9. Desire good opinion here, despite losing an article in transition?
EMYN MUIL: Here comes an equine hybrid carrying stoat furs? Sounds like it … pretty much.
11. Here, with a cruel, gloating shout, they ended the Maid of Orléans - give or take a couple of vowels.
12. Mixed rag hats are his style, perhaps?

Indeed ... did you use 'hart' as an element in your own Trahald clue, not that long ago?
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Old 10-12-2019, 07:35 PM   #8286
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12 Shagrat? Anagram of rag hats
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:28 AM   #8287
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TRAHALD: See him where the deer runs back and the alder wood begins.
2. This thing seems to lisp about where some random bloke has been supine!
3. ‘Mere nothingness!’ He’s in Angst, sure, or turmoil at the least, but is he really such a nihilist?
4. Someone who complains when fasting will really come unstuck here.
5. Here, a healthy water meadow meets Meduseld, perhaps.
6. ‘Alternatively, be gracious here,’ we heard.
7. A bad experience with caviar in the North? Well, somewhere. It’s appalling.
8. A biblical dude and an Amsterdam bloom get together – cacophonously – to trumpet its presence!
9. Desire good opinion here, despite losing an article in transition?
EMYN MUIL: Here comes an equine hybrid carrying stoat furs? Sounds like it … pretty much.
11. Here, with a cruel, gloating shout, they ended the Maid of Orléans - give or take a couple of vowels.
SHAGRAT: Mixed rag hats are his style, perhaps?

Indeed.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:15 PM   #8288
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11 Rohan? I seem to recall that Joan of Arc was executed at Rouen and ha! Could be the shout evict the excess vowels and you get Rohan.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:21 PM   #8289
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TRAHALD: See him where the deer runs back and the alder wood begins.
2. This thing seems to lisp about where some random bloke has been supine!
3. ‘Mere nothingness!’ He’s in Angst, sure, or turmoil at the least, but is he really such a nihilist?
4. Someone who complains when fasting will really come unstuck here.
5. Here, a healthy water meadow meets Meduseld, perhaps.
6. ‘Alternatively, be gracious here,’ we heard.
7. A bad experience with caviar in the North? Well, somewhere. It’s appalling.
8. A biblical dude and an Amsterdam bloom get together – cacophonously – to trumpet its presence!
9. Desire good opinion here, despite losing an article in transition?
EMYN MUIL: Here comes an equine hybrid carrying stoat furs? Sounds like it … pretty much.
ROHAN: Here, with a cruel, gloating shout, they ended the Maid of Orléans - give or take a couple of vowels.
SHAGRAT: Mixed rag hats are his style, perhaps?

Correct in all details.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:56 PM   #8290
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Not very confident Orthanc for 6 or ant thank could be being gracious
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:51 PM   #8291
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TRAHALD: See him where the deer runs back and the alder wood begins.
2. This thing seems to lisp about where some random bloke has been supine!
3. ‘Mere nothingness!’ He’s in Angst, sure, or turmoil at the least, but is he really such a nihilist?
4. Someone who complains when fasting will really come unstuck here.
5. Here, a healthy water meadow meets Meduseld, perhaps.
ORTHANC: ‘Alternatively, be gracious here,’ we heard.
7. A bad experience with caviar in the North? Well, somewhere. It’s appalling.
8. A biblical dude and an Amsterdam bloom get together – cacophonously – to trumpet its presence!
9. Desire good opinion here, despite losing an article in transition?
EMYN MUIL: Here comes an equine hybrid carrying stoat furs? Sounds like it … pretty much.
ROHAN: Here, with a cruel, gloating shout, they ended the Maid of Orléans - give or take a couple of vowels.
SHAGRAT: Mixed rag hats are his style, perhaps?

Yes. It's gracious to thank people, so OR plus a 'heard' THANK.
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Old 10-14-2019, 04:38 PM   #8292
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Is the password The Two Towers?
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Is the password The Two Towers?
It is indeed.
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:10 PM   #8294
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TRAHALD: See him where the deer runs back and the alder wood begins.
H: This thing seems to lisp about where some random bloke has been supine!
E: ‘Mere nothingness!’ He’s in Angst, sure, or turmoil at the least, but is he really such a nihilist?

T: Someone who complains when fasting will really come unstuck here.
W: Here, a healthy water meadow meets Meduseld, perhaps.
ORTHANC: ‘Alternatively, be gracious here,’ we heard.

T: A bad experience with caviar in the North? Well, somewhere. It’s appalling.
O: A biblical dude and an Amsterdam bloom get together – cacophonously – to trumpet its presence!
W: Desire good opinion here, despite losing an article in transition?
EMYN MUIL: Here comes an equine hybrid carrying stoat furs? Sounds like it … pretty much.
ROHAN: Here, with a cruel, gloating shout, they ended the Maid of Orléans - give or take a couple of vowels.
SHAGRAT: Mixed rag hats are his style, perhaps?
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Old 10-15-2019, 05:48 AM   #8295
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Is the remaining E Eomer - anagram of mere with a o/0 for nothingness?
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Old 10-15-2019, 05:59 AM   #8296
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TRAHALD: See him where the deer runs back and the alder wood begins.
H: This thing seems to lisp about where some random bloke has been supine!
EOMER: ‘Mere nothingness!’ He’s in Angst, sure, or turmoil at the least, but is he really such a nihilist?

T: Someone who complains when fasting will really come unstuck here.
W: Here, a healthy water meadow meets Meduseld, perhaps.
ORTHANC: ‘Alternatively, be gracious here,’ we heard.

T: A bad experience with caviar in the North? Well, somewhere. It’s appalling.
O: A biblical dude and an Amsterdam bloom get together – cacophonously – to trumpet its presence!
W: Desire good opinion here, despite losing an article in transition?
EMYN MUIL: Here comes an equine hybrid carrying stoat furs? Sounds like it … pretty much.
ROHAN: Here, with a cruel, gloating shout, they ended the Maid of Orléans - give or take a couple of vowels.
SHAGRAT: Mixed rag hats are his style, perhaps?
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:15 AM   #8297
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Okay, so: for the first W, could this be WELLINGHALL? Meduseld is the Golden Hall, and a water-meadow might have water welling up?

For H: HITHLAIN is the material of Lorien cloaks, and sounds like 'He's lain'.

Of the remaining 4 clues, it looks like we have one object (O) and three places (T, T, W). No people, which is nice to avoid random Riders. So I'm just going to throw out some thoughts for now:

T(1): Who complains while fasting? Hobbits, including Gollum.

T(2): I... don't even know where to start.

W: How many flippin' places beginning with W can there be? Most of them start with 'White'. 'Desire' suggests a name starting with WANT, but... there aren't any. Could be Want + He[something], so that 'the' can be removed from the middle, but what's the something?

Or, this could be just a big long straight clue, and point at the WINDING STAIR as the place where Gollum had his final turn back to evil.

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Old 10-21-2019, 09:25 AM   #8298
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TRAHALD: See him where the deer runs back and the alder wood begins.
HITHLAIN: This thing seems to lisp about where some random bloke has been supine!
EOMER: ‘Mere nothingness!’ He’s in Angst, sure, or turmoil at the least, but is he really such a nihilist?

T: Someone who complains when fasting will really come unstuck here.
WELLINGHALL: Here, a healthy water meadow meets Meduseld, perhaps.
ORTHANC: ‘Alternatively, be gracious here,’ we heard.

T: A bad experience with caviar in the North? Well, somewhere. It’s appalling.
O: A biblical dude and an Amsterdam bloom get together – cacophonously – to trumpet its presence!
W: Desire good opinion here, despite losing an article in transition?
EMYN MUIL: Here comes an equine hybrid carrying stoat furs? Sounds like it … pretty much.
ROHAN: Here, with a cruel, gloating shout, they ended the Maid of Orléans - give or take a couple of vowels.
SHAGRAT: Mixed rag hats are his style, perhaps?

Your logic for HITHLAIN is perfect. (You didn't mention the lisp, but I'm sure you took it into account).

For WELLINGHALL:

Healthy = WELL
A water meadow is an ING
Meduseld is indeed a HALL.

I suppose water that is 'welling' is moving and not stagnant, though, and thus healthy. I wasn't deliberately using the aqueously-connected meaning of well, though.

The only other correct element you have is WANT. But you need another element, and also to consider what 'in transition' means.

Well done on your correct answers so far.

However ...

C'mon! How many things could an Amsterdam bloom be?
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Your logic for HITHLAIN is perfect. (You didn't mention the lisp, but I'm sure you took it into account).
I did.

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A water meadow is an ING
And that's my thing to learn for today!

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C'mon! How many things could an Amsterdam bloom be?
So apparently I totally forgot this one existed... it must surely be a tulip, which means Biblical Dude must have an O in his name. Given that I can't think of any Middle-earth things with 'tulip' in their name, I'm going to guess that 'cacophonously' is an anagram indicator.

At least u and p are both uncommon letters... a quick check throws up OLIPHAUNT, making the Biblical character... Ohan? Oh, right, Noah.

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Old 10-22-2019, 03:09 AM   #8300
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TRAHALD: See him where the deer runs back and the alder wood begins.
HITHLAIN: This thing seems to lisp about where some random bloke has been supine!
EOMER: ‘Mere nothingness!’ He’s in Angst, sure, or turmoil at the least, but is he really such a nihilist?

T: Someone who complains when fasting will really come unstuck here.
WELLINGHALL: Here, a healthy water meadow meets Meduseld, perhaps.
ORTHANC: ‘Alternatively, be gracious here,’ we heard.

T: A bad experience with caviar in the North? Well, somewhere. It’s appalling.
OLIPHAUNT: A biblical dude and an Amsterdam bloom get together – cacophonously – to trumpet its presence!
W: Desire good opinion here, despite losing an article in transition?
EMYN MUIL: Here comes an equine hybrid carrying stoat furs? Sounds like it … pretty much.
ROHAN: Here, with a cruel, gloating shout, they ended the Maid of Orléans - give or take a couple of vowels.
SHAGRAT: Mixed rag hats are his style, maybe?

Actually, given how many more things are legal in the Netherlands than here, heaven knows *what* else an Amsterdam bloom might be. (Cough ladies in red-lit windows cough).

And a further hint:-

WANT is correct. What is another word for respect or good opinion?
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Old 10-26-2019, 07:38 AM   #8301
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The 2nd T:

What, essentially, is caviar?

And what's another word for a bad experience?
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Westemnet (WANT - A + ESTEEM)
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TRAHALD: See him where the deer runs back and the alder wood begins.
HITHLAIN: This thing seems to lisp about where some random bloke has been supine!
EOMER: ‘Mere nothingness!’ He’s in Angst, sure, or turmoil at the least, but is he really such a nihilist?

T: Someone who complains when fasting will really come unstuck here.
WELLINGHALL: Here, a healthy water meadow meets Meduseld, perhaps.
ORTHANC: ‘Alternatively, be gracious here,’ we heard.

T: A bad experience with caviar in the North? Well, somewhere. It’s appalling.
OLIPHAUNT: A biblical dude and an Amsterdam bloom get together – cacophonously – to trumpet its presence!
WESTEMNET: Desire good opinion here, despite losing an article in transition?
EMYN MUIL: Here comes an equine hybrid carrying stoat furs? Sounds like it … pretty much.
ROHAN: Here, with a cruel, gloating shout, they ended the Maid of Orléans - give or take a couple of vowels.
SHAGRAT: Mixed rag hats are his style, maybe?
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Is there no one else around who wants to attempt to solve this anymore?
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Well, the 2nd T is a mixture of 3 elements, none of them particularly hard.

The other T is a mixture of someone who complains and a fasting period.
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Well, I found Tauremorna and Tauremornalome, which are both names for Fangorn, which appeared in two towers, and both contain MOANER, but I can't find a word for fasting that fits the remainder.
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Well, I found Tauremorna and Tauremornalome, which are both names for Fangorn, which appeared in two towers, and both contain MOANER, but I can't find a word for fasting that fits the remainder.
LENT is the most obvious period of fasting, followed I think by RAMADAN, which is a bit long. Obviously neither of them work with those possibilities.

Caviar is fish eggs, or maybe fish jam, +a word containing a T that probably means the North? Or maybe is a place in Northern England (or Middle-earth, possibly).

I'm guessing 'appalling' and 'unstuck' are the anagram indicators, and that 'somewhere' and 'here' are the straight clues indication locations.

(And to answer your previous - I'd love to, I've just run completely dry on ideas. As this post may prove.)

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Old 11-25-2019, 09:37 AM   #8308
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Perhaps I should just end the agony.

TAUREMORNA is indeed an answer, but to the OTHER clue.

It's TRAUMA + ROE + N.

...

Whereas one who complains whilst fasting could be a LENT GROUCH. Although admittedly 'lenten' would have been better grammatically, it would NOT, when unstuck, have revealed the terrible horror of ...

TORECH UNGOL.

Mithalwen solved the password. Is she around?
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:40 AM   #8309
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TRAHALD: See him where the deer runs back and the alder wood begins.
HITHLAIN: This thing seems to lisp about where some random bloke has been supine!
EOMER: ‘Mere nothingness!’ He’s in Angst, sure, or turmoil at the least, but is he really such a nihilist?

TORECH UNGOL: Someone who complains when fasting will really come unstuck here.
WELLINGHALL: Here, a healthy water meadow meets Meduseld, perhaps.
ORTHANC: ‘Alternatively, be gracious here,’ we heard.

TAUREMORNA: A bad experience with caviar in the North? Well, somewhere. It’s appalling.
OLIPHAUNT: A biblical dude and an Amsterdam bloom get together – cacophonously – to trumpet its presence!
WESTEMNET: Desire good opinion here, despite losing an article in transition?
EMYN MUIL: Here comes an equine hybrid carrying stoat furs? Sounds like it … pretty much.
ROHAN: Here, with a cruel, gloating shout, they ended the Maid of Orléans - give or take a couple of vowels.
SHAGRAT: Mixed rag hats are his style, maybe?

Over to MITHALWEN!
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:57 AM   #8310
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I don't think they are, but we can wait a while. If they don't show up in a couple of days, someone else can take over.
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Old 11-25-2019, 06:07 PM   #8311
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I will either post something in 24-48 hours or let you know I can’t as I am not having a great time just now in any respect.
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Old 11-26-2019, 02:59 AM   #8312
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Sorry to hear that, Mith.
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:28 PM   #8313
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Sorry. Came home and slept again. If anyone wants the turn they can have it. Otherwise I will try to complete my half idea
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1. A heap, a vehicle, and a German note spin for it.
2. A returning river meets a broken norm with a vowel switch? See it.
3. A broken Danish toy inside of conjunction reveals it.
4. Spin an aquatic mammal with a vowel shift and a returning element for it.
5. Combine this traitor with his house's symbol, rearranged, for it.
6. The girl (with a vowel switch - twice) is gone without end, and it appears.
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4: seems likely to be based on 'whale', but could be something else. Are otters aquatic? Because they have a decent set of letters to spin up and splice with an element.

5: I'm guessing MAEGLIN+MOLE on general principles, but there are other possibilities. My anagram skills are as weak as ever, so yeah.

6: Th*g*rlisgon actually looks pretty close to a Tolkien name, though not a specific one. I'd guess at least a couple of the words need anagramming.

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Old 11-28-2019, 10:15 AM   #8316
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Could 6 be SEREGON - SARA with two vowel switches plus GON(E) ?

And could the things/password be PLANTS?

(With 1 maybe beginning with PILE).
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5 doesn't involve a Tolkien traitor at all, and correct on Seregon and the password.
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P: A heap, a vehicle, and a German note spin for it.
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Maybe Wormtail + griffin for the traitor?

Can't make anything of it, though.
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Maybe Wormtail + griffin for the traitor?

Can't make anything of it, though.

Exactly. And what is Wormtail's real first name?
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