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Old 05-28-2011, 10:56 AM   #121
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Ten years ago, Orlando Bloom created an iconic character with his portrayal of Legolas.
well that's funny isn't it, you do just learn something new every day don't you, I mean I thought Tolkien wrote The Lord of the Raaaaaaarhrkghchrghdeath.
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Old 05-28-2011, 03:03 PM   #122
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well that's funny isn't it, you do just learn something new every day don't you, I mean I thought Tolkien wrote The Lord of the Raaaaaaarhrkghchrghdeath.
Do you really think that Orlegolando Bloomleaf is the proper Legolas? He was quite a character on his own, without any help from the Professor, except for the name.

What the Leggy-bopper's quote should have said is that Bloom took Legolas, took him apart, and built his own Lego with the pieces.
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With his elvish gift of foresight, Legolas tells the Dwarf Gloin, "Father of Gimli, you might not believe this, but in the sequel to this tale I fall in love with your son."
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well that's funny isn't it, you do just learn something new every day don't you, I mean I thought Tolkien wrote The Lord of the Raaaaaaarhrkghchrghdeath.
Well, you have to admit it was quite amazing the amount of pathos they got from a mannequin. There was one part where I swear it almost cried real tears!
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Well, you have to admit it was quite amazing the amount of pathos they got from a mannequin. There was one part where I swear it almost cried real tears!
Those tears were just water. They forgot to add salt.

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No actor for Bard and Orlando Bloom returning... does anybody else smell a conspiracy?
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No actor for Bard and Orlando Bloom returning... does anybody else smell a conspiracy?
I wasn't sure about a conspiracy until I heard the title of the new movie: Hobbits of the Caribbean.
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Well, you have to admit it was quite amazing the amount of pathos they got from a mannequin. There was one part where I swear it almost cried real tears!
I had a "Tiny tears" doll that did that when I was child... it wasn't high tech.

Ang - I fully expect either Dame Helen, Dame Maggie or Dame Judi to be cast as Lobelia..
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No actor for Bard and Orlando Bloom returning... does anybody else smell a conspiracy?
Well, as was already mentioned earlier (I believe) on this thread, Bard only appears in the second halfof the story. And who will watch a movie without Orlando Bloom in it?

This is really sad.
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Judi Dench as Lobelia
Daniel Craig as Lotho.

Of course, neither are in The Hobbit but will that
stop PJ? Not hardly.
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Yahoo reports "The Hobbit" films get titles and release dates.

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The first of the two films, which are currently being filmed back-to-back in New Zealand, "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey," arrives in theaters on December 14, 2012.

The sequel, opening December 13, 2013, will be known as "The Hobbit: There and Back Again." Both will be released through Warner Bros...

The sprawling cast includes a number of other "Rings" veterans: Ian McKellen as Gandalf the Grey; Cate Blanchett as Galadriel; Orlando Bloom as Legolas; Christopher Lee as Saruman; Hugo Weaving as Elrond; Elijah Wood as Frodo; and Andy Serkis as Gollum.
Not quite sure they are precisely following the canon plot...
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Not quite sure they are precisely following the canon plot...
They aren't.

It's possible that they want to add a scene of the White Counsil banishing the Necromancer, which would explain Galadriel and Saruman. And nothing related to the LOTR movies can do without LegoBloom . But Frodo?

I'm kind of afraid to watch the movie...
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Judi Dench as Lobelia
Daniel Craig as Lotho.

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stop PJ? Not hardly.
Ye-es... but having a Sackville-Baggins or two appear at the beginning and/or end would actually be okay, particularly if they keep the original ending– it's just the "show, don't tell" principle at work. So if they're going to do that (I haven't heard anything about it, though) it really wouldn't bother me. Similarly, you could legitimately show the White Council bit, at least briefly.

It's the rest of it– what they're trying to make, it seems, is not so much The Hobbit as it is Lord of the Rings: Part 0. Perhaps this was inevitable, after the success of the trilogy, but it's a pretty tall order when the book they're trying to adapt is only quite loosely connected to its sequel.
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It's the rest of it– what they're trying to make, it seems, is not so much The Hobbit as it is Lord of the Rings: Part 0. Perhaps this was inevitable, after the success of the trilogy, but it's a pretty tall order when the book they're trying to adapt is only quite loosely connected to its sequel.
At least they didn't try filming The Sil!
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I fear that will be the excuse we will hear over and over again to justify all the changes they make to the story.
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but it's a pretty tall order when the book they're trying to adapt is only quite loosely connected to its sequel.
I fear that will be the excuse we will hear over and over again to justify all the changes they make to the story.
You'd think the Ring would be rather an unmistakable connection between the stories. At least, it seems to be adequate for readers of the books.
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Considering that they already made Frodo much younger in LotR, how could they possibly put him (as an adult, no less - unless they have the medical technology to make Wood rapidly age backwards) in The Hobbit? Wouldn't that make Bilbo's adventure happen just a few years before LotR?

White Council nonsense I was expecting, but putting Frodo in it doesn't seem to make sense even in Peter Jackson Land.
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Galadriel, Aiwendil - they plan to have Frodo as the narrator, so it's not worse than that.
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stop PJ? Not hardly.
Having located my copy of the Hobbit - The Sackville Bagginses are measuring the rooms to see if their furniture will fit at the end... so they are there albeit for a sentence or two...
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Quite true about the S-B's at the end of The Hobbit.
But frankly, Judi Dench would make a more believable
Lobelia then the over the top harridan in the FotR movie
extended dvd.
And I like the idea of her bossing around Daniel Craig as her
son (after all, he probably has a license to foreclose on homes).

Bilbo finds a hobbit measuring his rooms.
"What are you doing? Who are you?"
Sackville-Baggins, LOTHO Sackville-Baggins!"
(cue scary music)
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Sackville-Baggins, LOTHO Sackville-Baggins!"
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The nickname Lotho Pimple might have to go then... that is more Bond villain
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Ah, that makes sense. I will revert to my previous, slightly less inflated, level of skepticism about the films.
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You'd think the Ring would be rather an unmistakable connection between the stories. At least, it seems to be adequate for readers of the books.
There's a ring?

I'm just remembering back to the days of Prince Caspian where literally the excuse for trashing the book was "the book doesn't make a very good film."

So if The Hobbit doesn't make a very good film...lets make it into two films and make it up as we go along.
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So if The Hobbit doesn't make a very good film...lets make it into two films and make it up as we go along.
Doing that with LOTR and three films seems to have paid off well for PJ.

If that's indeed his model, I think we'll be getting off lucky not to see:

1. Bilbo falling in love with a female eagle
2. Bilbo getting captured by Beorn, who tries to take him and the Ring to Smaug
3. Armies of Gondor and Rohan heroically saving the day at the Battle of Five Armies
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4. Galadriel mysteriously appearing in Mirkwood to help Bilbo, telling him "Even the smallest person can ....well, you know the rest."
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So if The Hobbit doesn't make a very good film...lets make it into two films and make it up as we go along.
The Hobbit would make a decent enough film. It just wouldn't make as much money as TWO Hobbit films strung out over two successive years.
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1. Bilbo falling in love with a female eagle
Oooo...kinky!

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2. Bilbo getting captured by Beorn, who tries to take him and the Ring to Smaug
I'm expecting to see this.

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I am *definitely* expecting to see this...led by Faramir and Eowyn (respectively).

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4. Galadriel mysteriously appearing in Mirkwood to help Bilbo, telling him "Even the smallest person can ....well, you know the rest."
In the interest of gender equality I think Galadriel will have to join Thorin and Company along with Gwaihirina and whatsherfacewhosenamestartswithanI. I mean, they cut all those dwarves which creates a lot of space for "better" characters to take their place.

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The Hobbit would make a decent enough film. It just wouldn't make as much money as TWO Hobbit films strung out over two successive years.
I'm pretty sure from their general attitude the brilliant minds behind this production don't think The Hobbit makes a very good movie.
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I am *definitely* expecting to see this...led by Faramir and Eowyn (respectively).
No, by Eomer, who leads the troops against Theoden's will for no reason whatsoever, just to discover that he is needed on the Battlefield.

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Itaril?



I want to add to the list:

5. Thorin falling in love with Mrs. Smaug
6. Bilbo wielding the Arkenstone against the Spider of Mirkwood
7. Itaril teaching Legolas all the tricks he'll show in LOTR
8. An army of wizards flying on Eagles
9. Ents of Mirkwood
10. A Nazgul leading the Orcs in battle.
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The Hobbit would make a decent enough film. It just wouldn't make as much money as TWO Hobbit films strung out over two successive years.
Sad but true. As much as any film of a Tolkien book made by PJ could be decent.
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No, by Eomer, who leads the troops against Theoden's will for no reason whatsoever, just to discover that he is needed on the Battlefield.
Gah!!! Non-female character...rejected.



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5. Thorin falling in love with Mrs. Smaug
6. Bilbo wielding the Arkenstone against the Spider of Mirkwood
7. Itaril teaching Legolas all the tricks he'll show in LOTR
8. An army of wizards flying on Eagles
9. Ents of Mirkwood
10. A Nazgul leading the Orcs in battle.
These are all brilliant! I shall have them forwarded to the script department at once!
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Gah!!! Non-female character...rejected.
Then Faramir should be rejected too. Instead, his mother Finduilas should go.

OR, he should have a sister who dies in the Battle of 5 Armies...

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Old 06-02-2011, 09:59 PM   #151
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It wouldn't exactly blow my mind if #7 really does appear in it. And maybe #10 as well.
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ROFL!!!!

I just got done arguing with some fanboy over at the OneRing.net forums, and what I stated mirrors much of what's been said here lately. Here's my take:

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...But turning a story that has been beloved by children and adults since 1937 into some 3D fan-fiction parody that loses all its endearing charm would be the real tragedy.

I've already seen what PJ can do with a script, and I am not enamored in the least. The weakest points of the LotR movies were when he played fast and "loose", but when he stayed closer to the original plot, it was magic. Even when he gave dialogue to one character that was originally said by another, it was very gratifying, and at points very moving and elegiac.

No, I don't care to see Beorn enslaved by the lure of the One Ring and dragging Bilbo off to Dol Guldur, only to have a change of heart at the last minute.

No, I am uninterested in seeing an army of Rohirrim arrive at Erebor in the nick of time.

No, I don't wish to see a 15 minute sequence of Bard falling off a cliff and then french kissing his horse.

No, I don't want to hear Elrond whine that "Celebrian is dying".

No, I am against Itaril teaching Legolas to shield surf.

No, I don't want Bilbo to tell Balin to go home.

No, I don't want a maniacal Thranduil slobbering over a piece of chicken while making Bilbo sing.

And no, I don't want a wave of green scrubbing bubbles to take out Smaug at Laketown.

Am I in the minority? Perhaps. But there is nowhere else I'd rather be. Certainly not in the "majority" if that is where you reside. The Hobbit and LotR are two completely different books for two separate audiences. Make the movie ugly and violent enough, and you'll drive away the very audience it was written for.

Strip the story of its elegant simplicity and linear quality by adding a fan-fic rendition of the White Council (which Tolkien didn't even waste words on), and you eliminate the qualities of the book. Smaug and the greed Smaug engendered are the antagonists of the story, not the Necromancer. Throw in a bewildering array of nonessential characters and lose the heart of the tale.
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Then Faramir should be rejected too. Instead, his mother Finduilas should go.

OR, he should have a sister who dies in the Battle of 5 Armies...

No, we have to have some beefcake in there to make the gurls happy.

Speaking of which...I have the perfect person in mind to play Bard.

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Speaking of which...I have the perfect person in mind to play Bard.

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Aiee! Even though you warned us beforehand, that's just TOO BAD. I wanted to ask if he isn't too young though but then remembered that with PJ anything is possible...
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Old 06-03-2011, 04:50 PM   #155
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So you're saying PJ will have the Laketown werewolves
battle the Smaug vampires as part of the Battle of
Seven Armies while Legolas tutors Bard on how to shoot
arrows as Leggy's laketown girlfriend is slain by Smaug?
Brilliant! That's a wrap.
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:23 PM   #156
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arrows as Leggy's laketown girlfriend is slain by Smaug?
I'm all for this bit of it at any rate!
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So you're saying PJ will have the Laketown werewolves
battle the Smaug vampires as part of the Battle of
Seven Armies while Legolas tutors Bard on how to shoot
arrows as Leggy's laketown girlfriend is slain by Smaug?
Brilliant! That's a wrap.
Surely you can fit a balrog or two in there? And more trolls..

And cameos for Stanley Tucci and Kate Witless.
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Surely you can fit a balrog or two in there?
It's kind of about dragons , but will that matter to PJ?

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So 3 isn't enough, even though they are about to eat 13 Dwarves and one hobbit alive? There has to be some troll in the Misty Mtns, otherwise the story isn't good. And Bibo will slip right under it's nose to get away from the place.

At least one thing is certain: there will be orcs, and not those green-slimy-long-eared-goblins-who-look-more-like-Dobeys.

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It's kind of about dragons , but will that matter to PJ?
No.

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Ahhh...judging from the branches sprouting out of his head it is the reclusive tree-orc!!
That's where the Ents come in! They will be hoding a moot all the way through the Battle, and by the time they finish Thorin would be dead etc.

So many brilliant *cough cough* ideas! Just takes a little to get them flowing!
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