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Old 01-01-2004, 12:24 PM   #41
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Fingon? He was the one who was best friends with Maedhros and rescued him from Taniquetil.
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Old 01-01-2004, 12:44 PM   #42
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I always knew that Manwë was up to no good, but this, this takes the cake! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 01-01-2004, 04:24 PM   #43
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Sorry about that- thanks, guys, and don't mind me. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 01-01-2004, 05:58 PM   #44
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Yeah, definately Saeros! Although this obscure Manwe-capture might take priority! [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img]

One of my friends who has read LotR was genuinly shocked when I mentioned there were evil Elves...guess it's a good thing I didn't tell him some of them were incestuous then (with disasteorus results [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] )...
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Old 01-08-2004, 06:32 AM   #45
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I nominate Turgon. For not letting Hurin into Gondolin straightaway. "Remember the Fen of Serech", indeed. Bah. One of the most ungrateful acts ever committed in Middle Earth.
And I would also like to confess that while dislike is too strong a word, I've never really participated in the love affair most readers seem to have with Frodo. I find him a bit dull and worthy, and nowhere near as endearing as Bilbo. Elijah Wood's portrayal did little to change my mind.
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Old 01-08-2004, 09:38 AM   #46
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But that whole deal with Hurin and Turgon was about saving a remnant of the Eldar. Hurin then completely jeapordised (sp?) his very own idea by sniffing about the borders of Gondolin.

Turgon was harsh to a friend, but only for the protection of his people.
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Old 01-08-2004, 09:41 AM   #47
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I don't care. It was a really mean-spirited thing to do.
But I agree with you about Mim. He always struck me as a rather pathetic figure and I felt sorry for him. He and his sons were after all the last of their kind, a lonely thing to be.
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:48 AM   #48
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Definatly Mim the Petty-Dwarf. Never really liked the Dwarves of Nogrod either.
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Old 01-08-2004, 07:52 PM   #49
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I have to say my least favourite character in LOTR is Bill Ferny. He's a downright creep. Also Elrond. He doesn't help at all! He could've done alot in the war and helped Gondor and Rohan with Rivendell elves and keep many lives from being wasted. That's all I have to say.
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Old 01-09-2004, 10:56 AM   #50
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Fingon. His name always kept mixing me up, between Finrod, Finwe, Fingolfin, and all the other "fin-"s. What did he do that was important, anyway?
Wha?! Coming from someone named after Tom Bombadil?!

Fingon the Valiant was a noble king/prince who did the best he could with clear and unquestionable intentions - as righteous or more so than his cousins, and most other characters in The Silmarillion. Gothmog, Lord of the Balrogs, could not even defeat Fingon - it took two balrogs.

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Therefore he dared a deed which is justly renowned among the feats of the princes of the Noldor: alone, and without the counsel of any, he set forth in search of Maedhros; and aided by the very darkness that Morgoth had made he came unseen into the fastness of his foes. High upon the shoulders of Thangorodrim he climbed, and looked in despair upon the desolation of the land; but no passage or crevice could he find through which he might come within Morgoth's stronghold. Then in defiance of the Orcs, who cowered still in the dark vaults beneath the earth, he took his harp and sang a song of Valinor that the Noldor made of old, before strife was born among the sons of Finwë; and his voice rang in the mournful hollows that had never heard before aught save cries of fear and woe.
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Then Fingon prince of Hithlum rode against him with archers on horseback, and hemmed him round with a ring of swift riders; and Glaurung could not endure their darts, being not yet come to his full armoury, and he fled back to Angband, and came not forth again for many years. Fingon won great praise, and the Noldor rejoiced;
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Then when Fingon heard afar the great trumpet of Turgon his brother, the shadow passed and his heart was uplifted, and he shouted aloud: 'Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!' And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: 'Auta i lómë! The night is passing!'
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Old 01-10-2004, 03:23 AM   #51
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I think the character in LOTR that I dislike the most is Denethor. I mean a guy who is willing to burn his own son alive is pretty sick and twisted. And also the fact that he thought one son was better than the other and he wished that Boromir had stayed and Faramir had gone with the Fellowship and died shows some real "love" there.

And then sending Faramir off to take back a city that was over run with orcs that just wasn't going to be taken back? All he cared about was that he stayed in power as the steward. Though I myself think he thought he was king. But hey that's just me.

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Old 01-11-2004, 11:32 AM   #52
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I must say Wormtounge. He was a worthless snake who betrayed his own King to get a little power from Saruman. iF Saruman had succeeded, I doubt he would have given Grima any power anyway.

As you may be able to see, i have strong views about the Rohirrim.
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Old 01-12-2004, 02:52 PM   #53
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Graarrggh, burárum! She is so annoying! I wish that Treebeard would stomp into town and just slap her! [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img]

But it seems as if most people dislike the evil characters. Hmm... guess this makes me one mean platypus.

Faramir in my opinion actually isn't very likeable when we first meet him. He has all the haughtiness of an Aragorn, and we don't really know him yet. I guess like Sam (and unlike Frodo), I don't trust him fully from the start. But later when we see Pippin's description of him, and his bravery in the retreat from Osgiliath and the Causeway Forts, he is great! But I just thought that I'd mention he starts out as not very likeable.
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Old 03-25-2004, 05:37 PM   #54
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Saeros! Eeeewwww... I also dislike Mim, Radaghast, and Bill Ferny.
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Old 03-25-2004, 08:56 PM   #55
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I have to agree with others. I dislike Wormtongue... the only good thing that that guy did was kill off Saurman for good! But I just didn't like him, I even think I liked him better in the film than in the book because it just seemed like he had a larger part. But, yes, he has to be the first obscure character that I don't like that popped in to my mind. I really don't have an extreme dislike towards anyone else (in the book at least, the film is another story...)
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Old 04-03-2004, 07:04 PM   #56
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Interesting that many here name Tom Bombadill. The Old Forest holds yet another character, one more obscure than he. Goldberry.

I suppose my frustrations with her arise from two points. I find some of the qualities Tolkien ascribes to her embarassing. (Some I like, I hasten to add.) And I dislike the way she is simply dropped, from the post dinner conversations with the hobbits and from the book's conclusion, where Tolkien attempts to tie Tom into the story's end but completely omits any mention of Goldberry.

It seems to me that Tolkien clothes the Persephone myth with all the sumptuous accoutrements of a Martha Stewart refining the art of dinner presentation. I don't think it is the concept of her, a character pointing clearly to fantasy and mythology, that bothers me so much as it is the actual practice of describing her.

And lest I be criticised, let me say I think the idea of a couple creating convivial dinners is not the fault. I enjoy Ann and George Edwards tremendously in Mary Russell's The Sparrow. Now there's a host and hostess who create supurb conditions for the enjoyment and exercise of human social intercourse--warm, witty, charming, endearing, neither sentimental nor perfect--the stuff that molds kindness and friendship and fellowship. Maybe it is the oxymoron of "so fair was the grace of Goldberry and so merry and odd the caperings of Tom." Maybe it is that I wish there was something more perilous to her character, something grounding her more thoroughly in the realm of true fairy.

Yet though, this could simply be the effect of an embarassment of riches. A fertile imagination, playing with so many materials, and needing yet more story to bind them.
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