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Old 03-18-2004, 12:36 PM   #361
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Old 03-19-2004, 07:41 AM   #362
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Taur im Duinath

The constellation is Taurus, and by removing a superpower (U.S.) from it we get Taur. Instant Message abbreviated gives us I.M.; the shortened river is [An]duin and the m-less subject is [M]ath, the final answer being a forest.
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Old 03-19-2004, 08:54 AM   #363
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Old 03-19-2004, 10:32 AM   #364
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Let's see how you get on with this one:

Flower involved in rite
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White-Hand A stab in the dark...

Ummm...simbelmyn?
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Old 03-25-2004, 07:38 AM   #366
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I'm going to be difficult with this one and demand the full solution. As it happens, Simbelmyn is a long way from the right answer anyway.

Clue: double meanings are pivotal to the solution.
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Old 03-26-2004, 02:02 PM   #367
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Thinking out loud . . .

"Flower" could mean the name of a flower (rose, iris, daisy, to name some short ones), or the name of a river (Aros, Celos, etc., again starting with shorter names).

As a cryptic clue, "involved in" might mean that one word is inside another, as where "Soldier involved in familar area" becomes "LOGICAL" ("GI" in "local").

"Rite" - can't think of any short synonyms or examples.
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Old 03-30-2004, 07:14 AM   #368
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Well said. Do you have an answer to my question?
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Old 04-06-2004, 06:27 AM   #369
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Any takers? It's easier than it looks.
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Old 04-06-2004, 02:59 PM   #370
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I'm sure I'll kick myself when the answer is guessed, but I don't see it.

Is there a "straight clue" in there ?
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Old 04-06-2004, 03:36 PM   #371
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In a way the entire clue is straight. Then again, in another sense the clue is entirely cryptic. At its heart there is a double meaning and yes, you will kick yourself.
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Old 04-06-2004, 06:32 PM   #372
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Let's see... Nenuial?

(Flower) --> (One who flows) --> Nin, nen

involved in --> is a part of/ along with

(Rite) --> Ritual --> uial

That gives you Nenuial.
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Old 04-07-2004, 08:59 AM   #373
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You're going in the right direction, but that's not the answer. There are no anagrams in this clue, and one need know only English to get the answer.
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Old 05-11-2004, 11:03 AM   #374
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Surely someone must have worked this one out by now.

Since I'm stalling the game at the moment I'll post the solution if nobody gets it by the end of the week.
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Old 05-11-2004, 01:32 PM   #375
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Squatter, your cryptic clue has had me staring at my computer screen for many hours these past few days, & I have had naught to show for it but dry eyes & a headache. I hope I, or, at least someone, will be able to do you the service of solving it before the week's end.

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Old 05-11-2004, 07:07 PM   #376
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Is it Celebrant?

A celebrant might be said to be someone involved in a celebration or rite, and it is also a flower (ie something that flows) in Middle-earth.
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Old 05-14-2004, 08:04 AM   #377
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Gaudeamus igitur: we have a winner.

Nice one, Saucepan.
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Old 05-15-2004, 07:27 PM   #378
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Cheers Squatter.

Next up:

Grave beauty seen in pointless comforting words.
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Yet again, great silent empty vistas open up ...

... anyone?
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Old 05-21-2004, 08:51 PM   #380
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Is it Arwen? She was very beautiful and when Aragorn died, he comforted her with words? It's a feeble guess.......but you never know.
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That's not it, I'm afraid. You're thinking too literally. For a refresher on the types of elements which might make up a cryptic clue, have a look at my post #7 on the first page of this thread. That might help ...
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ok heresa gues

im gonna say gandalf here's why
G is the first letter of the clue
G is the first letter in Gandalf
Denetor basicly thought all his words were pointless "Pointless comforting words"
Denetor...or Theoden...called him Stormcrow...which is a sad name..sad has a synonym.."Grave"
Faramir still admiired him "Beauty"

I dont suppose im right?
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Good effort Morsul, but unfortunately your supposition is correct. It's not the right answer.

OK, time for a hint. To find the answer, you need to think of some comforting words and make them pointless.
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well i dont get the hint really but heres my second guess
using ur hint i came up with this (its over=pointless its over but so much was lost)......so

Aragorn?
he brings comfort with an army...
from the GRAVE.....
which is beautiful because it helps end the siege of Minas Tirith.....
r hint is annoying me lol it makes little sense to me
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Nope, I'm afraid not.

The hint will make more sense if you look at the guidelines on cryptic clues on the first page. "Pointless" should not be taken in its literal sense.

By the way, Morsul, since this site is devoted to the works of one who was a master of his language (and many others besides), we prefer not to use "chatspeak" here, so it's best to avoid using it.
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By removing North from never mind, we get Evermind; a grave beauty.
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Quite so, Squatter. Pray proceed.
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So without further ado...

Two greetings heard from barrier.
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is it Isengard?

two (two hobbits)
barrier (fortress)
two greetings heard- wogh=tree eard+b=treebeard

merry and pippin welcomed the others
Treebeard took Isengard Down
and Isendgard was a fortress which is in close relation to the word barrier
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Sorry

The real answer's much simpler than that.
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Not sure about this one, but "Hi" and "Hey" are two greetings. Put together, they sound like (are heard as) "High Hay", the hedge around the eastern border of Buckland.

So I'll say High Hay.

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Which is just good enough to make you the next up.
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Head-line writer produces article for exiled king.
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Is this one Gandalf hehe
Head-Line writer someone who brings news
Gandalf was always bringing news
Produces article for exiled king
Gandalf crowned Aragorn
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it's been eleven days since the question has been asked so by my understanding i may ask one

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Actually, it's not your turn, since people have been guessing within the 10 days. I think the rule applies when there is no confirmation of an answer or no new question has been asked within 10 days.
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Miffed though I am that my question has been superseded (as I quite like it), bumping and asking for clues don't count to delay the 10 day rule. So I'm happy to let Morsul's question stand. I will simply repeat mine next time it's my turn.
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