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Old 01-01-2004, 04:03 PM   #81
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Old 01-01-2004, 05:23 PM   #82
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Oops, sorry, meant paternal grandmother. Sorry, Nobody.
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Old 01-01-2004, 05:49 PM   #83
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Got it! Maeglin, right?
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Old 01-01-2004, 09:32 PM   #84
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Yes, Luthien_Tinuviel, it is Maeglor. Your turn.
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Old 01-02-2004, 04:28 PM   #85
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Okay, how about Pippin's paternal great-grandfather's sister's great-grandson (it's actually not that hard).
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Old 01-02-2004, 07:15 PM   #86
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Would that be Pippin...or am i not thinking straight?
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Close, Carlas. That would work if it was Pippin's paternal great-grandfather's wife's great-grandson. I believe (though I am not quite sure I remember) that the answer you are looking for is good ol' Fredegar "Fatty" Bolger, the Hobbit Left Behind.
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Old 01-02-2004, 10:43 PM   #88
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Oh, right! Well missed that one, but all the grand-these and grand-thats can be quite confusing. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Indeed they can! [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] I can usually make no sense of the long Hobbit family trees in the Appendices of The Lord of the Rings, at least not without my reading glasses and more than a few minutes to spare.
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Old 01-04-2004, 04:22 PM   #90
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Ah, the good old hobbit family trees. Maybe it is harder than I thought.... I used an internet resource, and didn't realize that the needed info is probably on two separate trees. So, I'll give a hint, which is the fact that the paternal great-grandfather is Hildigrim Took, and the sister I'm looking for is Mirabella Took. You may need to use both the Took and Brandybuck trees. No one has it yet.
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Old 01-04-2004, 04:41 PM   #91
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It's Merry!
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Old 01-05-2004, 05:23 AM   #92
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Right you are, Evisse. It's a little known fact that Merry and Pippin were third cousins as well as first cousins (on different sides of their families, of course).
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Old 01-09-2004, 09:02 AM   #93
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What is Elfwine to Morwen?
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Old 01-09-2004, 09:16 AM   #94
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I suppose and hope you mean Morwen of Lossarnach, if not this will become really embarrassing. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
So here we go:
Morwen's daughter (together with Thengel) was Thodwyn, whose son (together with omund) was omer. Finally, Elfwine was omer's son, which makes Morwen the great-grandmother of Elfwine.
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Old 01-12-2004, 12:59 AM   #95
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You're correct, as you undoubtedly know! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 01-12-2004, 04:02 AM   #96
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Okay here we go:
What was Elentir to Elendil?
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Elentir was Elendil's uncle.
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Old 01-12-2004, 11:43 AM   #98
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This is correct. Please proceed NightKnight.
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Old 01-16-2004, 03:16 PM   #99
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What was Thorin Oakenshield to Borin?
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Thorin was Borin's great-great-nephew.
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Old 01-17-2004, 08:28 AM   #101
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He was indeed. Please continue. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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How were Merry and Frodo related?
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Merry's grandfather Rorimac was Frodo's uncle, because he was Frodo's mother Primula's brother. I think this would make Frodo Merry's first cousin, once removed.
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That's half of it. They're related in two ways.
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Old 01-17-2004, 03:48 PM   #105
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Hmm... Frodo's great-uncle is Merry's great-grandfather? That would make them... I have no idea.
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Sorry it took so long to get back to you, symestreem... I didn't realize that you had posted. Hmm, I'm not sure what that would make them. I didn't see that one. That relation also affects the other one I was looking at and makes them even more closely related than I thought. I was going back to Balbo and Berylla Baggins which would make them third cousins once removed but that changes it...I don't know how. So you can go ahead and ask the next question.
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Please detail the relationship between Ar-Pharazon and his wife.
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Ar-Pharazon's wife was Tar-Miriel (Ar-Zimraphel). She was born the daughter of king Tar-Palantir.
Ar-Pharazon was Tar-Palantir's nephew, being the son of his brother Gimilzhad.
Ar-Pharazon usurps the throne of Numenor by marrying his (first) cousin.
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Old 01-22-2004, 04:22 PM   #109
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Name at least 5 (first cousins) of Bilbo Baggins!

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Um, right, uh...
Sigismond, Flambard, Adalgrim, Fortinbras II, Otho Sackville-Baggins, Odo Proudfoot, Falco Chubb-Baggins...?
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Old 02-06-2004, 09:48 PM   #112
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Five of Frodo's first cousins:
Milo Burrows, Seredic Brandybuck
Saradoc Brandbuck, Merimac Brandybuck,
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Old 02-16-2004, 02:37 PM   #113
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It's been ten days so I'll take the liberty of posting a new one:

Whose wife is also his aunt? (there are at least two instances of this kind).
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Old 02-16-2004, 08:00 PM   #114
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MAN! That's a tuffy! I can't think of one! altough it's probably obvious, can i get a hint?
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Old 02-17-2004, 02:06 AM   #115
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okay, a hint: they are of Elven descend.
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Old 02-17-2004, 11:32 AM   #116
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Old 02-17-2004, 12:17 PM   #117
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Correct, nobody. Elrond married Celebrian who was also his aunt. The other instance is his father Earendil.
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Which elf's brother was also his great-great-great-granddaughter's grandfather?
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Could you give a hint, nobody?
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Fingolfin, the brother of Finarfin?
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