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Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-12-2007, 02:54 PM

Yes, I thought about it too... but since even she doesn't mention it anywhere, I guess not (lucky her, btw).

Okay... hope this is at least somewhat good...

Yavanna => Bolg

And I want links based only on what is really explicitely stated in the books, not "this one and this one might have probably met..."

And, try to make it in four (including these two).

Celebdil · 05-29-2007, 12:56 PM

Yavanna -- Radagast -- Beorn -- Bolg ?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-29-2007, 02:11 PM

Congratulations, bright-minded! Please take the thread.

Celebdil · 05-30-2007, 01:07 PM

Ungoliant => Shelob

I found a solution to this in a total of 5 steps, so please use at most 5. If you can come up with less, go for it!

Aganzir · 05-30-2007, 01:18 PM

Ungoliant - Morgoth - Sauron - Shelob?

Celebdil · 05-30-2007, 01:33 PM

Are you sure that Sauron and Shelob actually met? I know Sauron knew Shelob guarded the pass but I don't remember reading that they ever met each other.

Aganzir · 05-30-2007, 01:37 PM

I'm not sure either. I guess it's nowhere mentioned.

What about the following:
Ungoliant - Morgoth - Sauron - Shagrat - Shelob?

I don't know for sure if Sauron and Shagrat actually met, but maybe we can assume so? Of course it depends on how many secretaries Sauron had.

Celebdil · 05-30-2007, 01:59 PM

I do remember that Shagrat seemed to know many things about how Shelob hunted her prey, so I think its reasonable to assume he at least watched her from afar, so I'll accept it. I was actually thinking the same as you except replace Shagrat with Gollum. Gollum at some point mentions that Sauron was missing a finger so he must have been in Sauron's presence.

Good job

The thread is yours.

Aganzir · 05-30-2007, 02:10 PM

Oh, of course.

Gollum didn't even occur to me.

Well, this is probably too easy, but I'm so bad at inventing these.

Fundin - Anborn.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-30-2007, 02:26 PM

In how many people? Six? Or even less? I can say five.

Fundin => Balin => Bilbo => Frodo => Anborn

Celebdil · 05-30-2007, 03:27 PM

I bet you could even eliminate Bilbo there because I believe Balin had visit the Shire on a few occasions and met Frodo. Frodo says something about this at the Council of Elrond I believe (or somewhere along his journey to Rivendell)

Aganzir · 05-31-2007, 12:27 PM

Right you are, Legate - that's what I thought, too. I'm sorry, I just forgot to tell the number of people. That happens when you're up when you should be sleeping, after a horrible exam week.

As for whether Frodo and Balin ever met, I don't think so. Frodo was, after all, only twenty-one when Bilbo adpted him, and Balin entered Moria the same year.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-31-2007, 01:35 PM

I thoughts so as well. Okay, a new one here:

Eorl the Young => Arathorn

Six, please (including these two)

Thinlómien · 06-01-2007, 02:25 AM

Eorl -> Brego -> Baldor -> King of the Dead -> Aragorn -> Arathorn ?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-01-2007, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Eorl -> Brego -> Baldor -> King of the Dead -> Aragorn -> Arathorn ?

Very good! Exactly what I had in mind. Please, continue.

Thinlómien · 06-04-2007, 03:53 PM

Théodred => Thuringwethil

Six, including those two. You can make it shorter if you're able to.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-05-2007, 03:11 AM

Théodred => Théoden => Saruman => Sauron => Thuringwhateveritisspelledihavetolookitup

Thinlómien · 06-05-2007, 03:20 AM

Great. Legate, please take the thread.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-05-2007, 03:32 AM

Alright...

Tuor => Gollum

Morthoron · 06-05-2007, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Alright...

Tuor => Gollum

Tuor -> Earandil -> Elrond -> Aragorn -> Gollum

Aragorn of course captured Gollum and brought him back to Mirkwood.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-05-2007, 07:45 AM

Very good! Please, continue with the thread.

Morthoron · 06-05-2007, 07:45 PM

Six.

Eol => Celebrian

Shards of Narsil · 06-06-2007, 12:20 PM

Eol - Maeglin - Idril - Earendil - Elrond - Celebrian.

Morthoron · 06-06-2007, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shards of Narsil

Eol - Maeglin - Idril - Earendil - Elrond - Celebrian.

Hmmm...not the path I would've taken, but it works.

Mine was Eol => Thingol => Beleg => Turin (all via Anglachel) => Orodreth => Galadriel => Celebrian.

Go ahead.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-30-2009, 06:58 AM

So, let's start anew with a rather simple one.

Annael -> Annatar

Pitchwife · 04-12-2009, 03:50 PM

You call that simple?

Annael -> Tuor -> Idril -> Enerdhil -> Celebrimbor -> Annatar

(depending, of course, on the UT story that Celebrimbor was from Gondolin, not the son of Curufin as in Silm)

Nilpaurion Felagund · 04-13-2009, 04:23 AM

Well, you could have used the Ainur:

Annael -> Tuor -> Ulmo (-> Morgoth) -> Annatar

Ah, but your way works as well. Take the thread!

Pitchwife · 04-13-2009, 11:45 AM

Thanks

! I guess it was the name Annatar (instead of Sauron) that made me think of Celebrimbor and forget the Valar connection.
Anyway, what about this (no Valar involved):

Iorlas -> Bregalad

Andsigil · 04-13-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Iorlas -> Bregalad

5 moves:

Iorlas > Beregond > Pippin> Treebeard> Bregalad

Pitchwife · 04-14-2009, 03:03 AM

Correct! (I would have left out Treebeard and used Bergil instead of Beregond, but never mind.) Take it away!

Andsigil · 04-14-2009, 08:08 AM

Okay, how about Cirdan to The Gaffer?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 04-15-2009, 03:59 AM

Laziest one is:

Círdan -> Elrond -> Samwise -> Gaffer Gamgee

Andsigil · 04-15-2009, 04:35 AM

Ack. Too easy. Your turn.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 04-15-2009, 07:54 PM

And sorry for the delay, had trouble coming up with a snorter.

Damrod -> Amrod

Andsigil · 04-16-2009, 04:43 AM

Damrod > Faramir > Boromir > Elrond > (Maglor?) > Amrod

Nilpaurion Felagund · 04-16-2009, 08:53 PM

Excellent.

Your turn.

Andsigil · 04-17-2009, 03:48 AM

Azog > Thorondor

Andsigil · 04-20-2009, 04:20 PM

*bump*

Anyone?

Bueller? Bueller?

Thinlómien · 04-20-2009, 04:40 PM

Azog -> Dáin -> Thórin -> Gandalf -> Glorfindel-> Thorondor?

Andsigil · 04-21-2009, 04:18 AM

Hmmm... I can't seem to recall Thorondor meeting Glorfindel, but it's possible they met at Gondolin, I suppose.

My path went:
Azog- Dain- Thorin- Thranduil- Elwe- Beren- Thorondor

I'll give it to you, though. The board is yours.

05-12-2007, 02:54 PM	#1361
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,606	Yes, I thought about it too... but since even she doesn't mention it anywhere, I guess not (lucky her, btw). Okay... hope this is at least somewhat good... Yavanna => Bolg And I want links based only on what is really explicitely stated in the books, not "this one and this one might have probably met..." And, try to make it in four (including these two). __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-29-2007, 12:56 PM	#1362
Celebdil Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 17	Yavanna -- Radagast -- Beorn -- Bolg ? Last edited by Celebdil; 05-29-2007 at 01:16 PM.

05-29-2007, 02:11 PM	#1363
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,606	Very good! Congratulations, bright-minded! Please take the thread. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-30-2007, 01:18 PM	#1365
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,607	Ungoliant - Morgoth - Sauron - Shelob? __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

05-30-2007, 01:37 PM	#1367
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,607	I'm not sure either. I guess it's nowhere mentioned. What about the following: Ungoliant - Morgoth - Sauron - Shagrat - Shelob? I don't know for sure if Sauron and Shagrat actually met, but maybe we can assume so? Of course it depends on how many secretaries Sauron had. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

05-30-2007, 01:07 PM	#1364
Celebdil Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 17	Ungoliant => Shelob I found a solution to this in a total of 5 steps, so please use at most 5. If you can come up with less, go for it!

05-30-2007, 01:33 PM	#1366
Celebdil Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 17	Are you sure that Sauron and Shelob actually met? I know Sauron knew Shelob guarded the pass but I don't remember reading that they ever met each other.

05-30-2007, 01:59 PM	#1368
Celebdil Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 17	I do remember that Shagrat seemed to know many things about how Shelob hunted her prey, so I think its reasonable to assume he at least watched her from afar, so I'll accept it. I was actually thinking the same as you except replace Shagrat with Gollum. Gollum at some point mentions that Sauron was missing a finger so he must have been in Sauron's presence. Good job The thread is yours.

05-30-2007, 02:10 PM	#1369
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,607	Oh, of course. Gollum didn't even occur to me. Well, this is probably too easy, but I'm so bad at inventing these. Fundin - Anborn. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

05-30-2007, 02:26 PM	#1370
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,606	In how many people? Six? Or even less? I can say five. Fundin => Balin => Bilbo => Frodo => Anborn __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-30-2007, 03:27 PM	#1371
Celebdil Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 17	I bet you could even eliminate Bilbo there because I believe Balin had visit the Shire on a few occasions and met Frodo. Frodo says something about this at the Council of Elrond I believe (or somewhere along his journey to Rivendell)

05-31-2007, 12:27 PM	#1372
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,607	Right you are, Legate - that's what I thought, too. I'm sorry, I just forgot to tell the number of people. That happens when you're up when you should be sleeping, after a horrible exam week. As for whether Frodo and Balin ever met, I don't think so. Frodo was, after all, only twenty-one when Bilbo adpted him, and Balin entered Moria the same year. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

05-31-2007, 01:35 PM	#1373
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,606	I thoughts so as well. Okay, a new one here: Eorl the Young => Arathorn Six, please (including these two) __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-01-2007, 02:25 AM	#1374
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,385	Eorl -> Brego -> Baldor -> King of the Dead -> Aragorn -> Arathorn ? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

06-04-2007, 03:53 PM	#1376
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,385	Théodred => Thuringwethil Six, including those two. You can make it shorter if you're able to. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

06-05-2007, 03:11 AM	#1377
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,606	Five Théodred => Théoden => Saruman => Sauron => Thuringwhateveritisspelledihavetolookitup __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-05-2007, 03:20 AM	#1378
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,385	Great. Legate, please take the thread. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

06-05-2007, 03:32 AM	#1379
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,606	Alright... Tuor => Gollum __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-05-2007, 07:45 AM	#1381
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,606	Very good! Please, continue with the thread. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-05-2007, 07:45 PM	#1382
Morthoron Curmudgeonly Wordwraith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits Posts: 2,528	Six. Eol => Celebrian __________________ And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.

06-06-2007, 12:20 PM	#1383
Shards of Narsil Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 33	Eol - Maeglin - Idril - Earendil - Elrond - Celebrian.

03-30-2009, 06:58 AM	#1385
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Right. So, let's start anew with a rather simple one. Annael -> Annatar __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

04-12-2009, 03:50 PM	#1386
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,355	You call that simple? Annael -> Tuor -> Idril -> Enerdhil -> Celebrimbor -> Annatar (depending, of course, on the UT story that Celebrimbor was from Gondolin, not the son of Curufin as in Silm) __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

04-13-2009, 04:23 AM	#1387
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Well, you could have used the Ainur: Annael -> Tuor -> Ulmo (-> Morgoth) -> Annatar Ah, but your way works as well. Take the thread! __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

04-13-2009, 11:45 AM	#1388
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,355	Thanks! I guess it was the name Annatar (instead of Sauron) that made me think of Celebrimbor and forget the Valar connection. Anyway, what about this (no Valar involved): Iorlas -> Bregalad __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

04-14-2009, 03:03 AM	#1390
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,355	Correct! (I would have left out Treebeard and used Bergil instead of Beregond, but never mind.) Take it away! __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

04-14-2009, 08:08 AM	#1391
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 746	Okay, how about Cirdan to The Gaffer? __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

04-15-2009, 03:59 AM	#1392
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Many paths. Laziest one is: Círdan -> Elrond -> Samwise -> Gaffer Gamgee __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

04-15-2009, 04:35 AM	#1393
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 746	Ack. Too easy. Your turn. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

04-15-2009, 07:54 PM	#1394
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Thanks! And sorry for the delay, had trouble coming up with a snorter. Damrod -> Amrod __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

04-16-2009, 04:43 AM	#1395
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 746	Damrod > Faramir > Boromir > Elrond > (Maglor?) > Amrod __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

04-16-2009, 08:53 PM	#1396
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Excellent. Your turn. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

04-17-2009, 03:48 AM	#1397
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 746	Azog > Thorondor __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

04-20-2009, 04:20 PM	#1398
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 746	bump Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

04-20-2009, 04:40 PM	#1399
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,385	Azog -> Dáin -> Thórin -> Gandalf -> Glorfindel-> Thorondor? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris