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Old 09-21-2000, 04:09 PM   #1
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Where was a beryl found and by whom?

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Old 09-21-2000, 04:23 PM   #2
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Aragorn found one in the mud in the middle of the Last Bridge.

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Old 09-21-2000, 04:32 PM   #3
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Correct. BTW, the beryl is related to the emerald but tends to be lighter in color at gem quality and a milky light green below gem quality. Ask away.

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Old 09-21-2000, 05:43 PM   #4
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Keeping with the items in Middle-Earth theme:

Besides the Ring, what was in the envelope that Bilbo left to Frodo?

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Old 09-21-2000, 08:16 PM   #5
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His will?

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YEs. His will was in with the Ring. And 'other documents' most likely including those adoption papers. I'm sure that Lobelia went over those with a fine-tooth comb. <img src=smile.gif ALT="">

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Old 09-22-2000, 06:24 AM   #7
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I wonder if Hobbits had lawyers? What items were fashioned from or attributed to things which came to Middle Earth from beyond the circles of the world? I can think of four.

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No takers? I'll wait one more day. Hint: three items are discussed in the Silmarillion. One is mentioned in LoTR.

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Weren't the sword Aranruth and Anglachel made of meteoric material?

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Anglachel is one. Aranruth was Thingol's sword and was passed on through Elros to the Kings of Numenor. It was not stated to be made from meteoric material. However, Anglachel should lead you to two more. The last one is more obscure.

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Anglachel,
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The armor of Eol,
The memorial stone of Pharazon's defeat of Sauron at Umbar.

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You got it, though I was thinking about Angrist, the knife, rather than Eol's armour. I forgot about the armour. Your question.

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Wow! 100 posts is a definite milestone at the Downs. We have a lot of registered users, but few that post more than a handful of remarks before they fade into the Void.

Though there are levels in between, the highest set level is 500 posts. At that moment you become a Ghost Prince of Cardolan and immediately eligible for a personal title. Of course, if your quality posts continue, we may have to consider dubbing you with a personal moniker sooner than 500.

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Old 09-27-2000, 09:13 PM   #14
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Shall we return to a previously untimely asked and retracted question then?

What little known item of art in Gondolin was rescued by Elendil and taken to Gondor at the fall of Numenor?

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Arrrgh! I was going to e-mail you on that one. If I have time, I'll hit the books. So many places to look tho.

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Then I will be of tremendous service with this:

Do NOT look in LOTR, HOB, AOTB, RGEO, UT, SIL, or HIST.

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You can be of even more tremendous service by supplying the meaning of your acronyms for the more acronymically-challenged, such as myself. <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b"> Thanks.

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&quot;Tremendous service&quot;, indeed (grumble)! What, perchance is RGEO (it took me several minutes to figure out Adventures of Tom Bombadil)? By process of elimination, I went to Letters, but, as you know, that volume has an excreble index (I don't have the new edition). As I'm not inclined to make guesses (although I have suspicions) and don't have time to research, I'll get back to you, O Detail Oriented One.

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I gotcha, Red...I'll put them all...even thought I know you know most of them.

LOTR - The Lord of the Rings
HOB - The Hobbit
AOTB - The Adventures of Tom Bombadil
RGEO - The Road Goes Ever On
UT - Unfinished Tales
SIL - The Silmarillion
HIST - The History of Middle-Earth (I guess all of them, if that is what HIST is)

That doesn't leave much...like maybe...Tolkien (Biography), A Tolkien Compass(?), The Complete Guide to Middle-Earth, The Letters of Tolkien....?? I dunno...

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LOTR, HOB, AOTB, RGEO, UT, SIL, or HIST

For the Acro challenged:
Lord of the rings, Hobbit, Adventures of tom bombadil, Road goes ever on, Unfinished tales, Silmarillion, History (series).

Add to the list LETTERS as a place to NOT go.

I did say 'little known'...

The info is available in at least 2 other books not mentioned however.

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One hint too many. Talk about obscure! Menelluin. A plaque bearing the emblem of Idril Celebrindal , a corn flower pattern, &quot;saved from Gondolin and descending through Earendil and his son Elros to Numenor, whence it was saved by Elendil and taken to Gondor&quot;. Plate No. 47, Heraldic Devices, Pictures by J.R.R. Tolkien. Nassssty riddle.

What's the second book?

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You may ask away Mithadan.

(You saw the relation to retracted question on the Sun created by Finwe in Valinor now eh?)

Oh! You asked about the second book. Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator.

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What item possessed by Elwe during the First Age ended up in Valinor during the Second Age?

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I believe this item was the Nauglamír.

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The Silmaril that was worn by Earendil.

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The Nauglamir/Silmaril was possessed by Elwe during the First Age but Earendil brought it to Valinor during the First Age. Since arguably it occaissionally returns to Valinor and may have been there at some point during the Second Age, I'll redefine the question. What item possessed by Elwe during the First Age did not make its way to Valinor until the Second Age?

This is a little tricksy. So, the latter part of the Second Age is a (very) little hint.

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Elwe's sword Aranruth (carried by Ar-Pharazon to Valinor) is also possible.

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Congrats on your 100th post Wight Saulotus.

Indeed, Aranruth was Thingol's sword and became the sword of the kings of Numenor. Although not stated expressly in Akallabeth, when Ar-Pharazon stepped onto the shores of Valinor and was buried in the landslides thst followed, Aranruth would have been buried with him. BTW, there's an excellent letter from Tolkien from 1958 explaining that the Valar had to lay down their governance of Arda for that time because their duty was to foster the Children of Iluvatar rather than make war upon them.

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OOOOO! Me Wight! Me Wight now! Me Wight question now.

Keeping with the item questions:

What became of the Necklace that Isildur wore the One Ring upon?

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It turned up in Saruman's chambers in Isengard, correct?

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Correct. Ask away.

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Old 09-28-2000, 08:49 PM   #32
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Re: Items In Middle Earth

What did Bladorthin try to buy from the dwarves?

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Old 09-28-2000, 09:32 PM   #33
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Spears.

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Old 09-29-2000, 05:23 AM   #34
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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Weird, I could have sworn I responded last night. Anyway, correct answer is spears, the delivery of which was interrupted by the arrival of a certain dragon. Your question.

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Old 09-29-2000, 09:59 AM   #35
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What was the Silver Crown's casket made of?

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Old 10-01-2000, 08:55 PM   #36
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Black lebethron bound with silver.

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Old 10-08-2000, 11:10 PM   #37
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Correct. Ask away.

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Old 10-09-2000, 05:40 AM   #38
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Re: Items In Middle Earth

What item did Beren use as token of his right to enter Nargothrond?


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Old 10-09-2000, 11:05 AM   #39
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Maybe the ring that Finrod Felagund gave to Barahir, his father?

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Old 10-10-2000, 05:25 AM   #40
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Correct. Ask on Hammer.

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