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12-29-2002, 11:02 PM

I was curious as what race or kind of people are melkor and sauron. Also What exactly is an Isatariand where do they come from. Thanks

Ithaeliel · 12-29-2002, 11:15 PM

HINT- If you read the Silmarillion, you will find this out in a snap, as well as many other things.

Ah well, though. It is my way to provide explanations and not resources (curse my leniency! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]). Melkor and Sauron were both of the Ainur, the first beings in Middle-earth, but while Melkor was of the greater sundering, the Valar, Sauron was a Maia like Gandalf. The Istari were the wizards who were sent to Middle-earth from Valinor. There were six Istari: Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, and the three Blue Wizards.

Pallando B.C · 12-29-2002, 11:33 PM

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There were six Istari: Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, and the three Blue Wizards

The Istari were only made up of five, which means that there were only two Blue Wizards; Pallando and Alatar.

Pallando and Alatar were servants (while on Valinor) of the Vala Oromë, who knew most of the Eastern Lands. It is said that that is where the Blue Wizards went.

zacattack · 12-30-2002, 01:13 AM

Melkor who's common name is Morgoth was one of the Valar(Ainur) but he is no longer counted among them.

Sauron is a Maia and was the servant of Aule.

The 5 Istari were Curumo(Saruman),Olorin(Gandalf),Aiwendil(Radgast), Pallando and Alatar who were known as "Ithryn Luin" which means the Blue Wizards.They were sent by the Valar to contest the power of Sauron.

Read The Silmarillion and The Book of Unfinished Tales

12-30-2002, 02:33 PM

oh well ive read the silmarrilion 2 times i guess i didnt pick this up. Thanks

Pallando B.C · 12-30-2002, 05:49 PM

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I was curious as what race or kind of people are melkor and sauron

I'm not quite sure how you couldn't pick that up, I you read the Silmarillion twice.

Note: No offence meant.

Elendur · 12-30-2002, 05:58 PM

That is weird that you could read a book two times and miss something so obvious. Do you zone out while reading? Sometimes I do that. I will have read a paragraph and then realize I had zoned out and I can't remember what I just read. I suggest paying closer attention while you read. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

12-30-2002, 07:48 PM

i usually zone out too unless its a real interesting story. Also the first time i readf it it was way over my head and i understood nothing. I usually read some of my favorite stories like turin's and beren and luthien's over and over while the other i just kinda skim thru almost. especially the beginning of the book

12-29-2002, 11:02 PM	#1
Glaurung Guest Posts: n/a	Quick question I was curious as what race or kind of people are melkor and sauron. Also What exactly is an Isatariand where do they come from. Thanks

12-29-2002, 11:15 PM	#2
Ithaeliel Cornus Caliga Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Five-hundred-twenty-five thousand, six hundred minutes from here Posts: 716	HINT- If you read the Silmarillion, you will find this out in a snap, as well as many other things. Ah well, though. It is my way to provide explanations and not resources (curse my leniency! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]). Melkor and Sauron were both of the Ainur, the first beings in Middle-earth, but while Melkor was of the greater sundering, the Valar, Sauron was a Maia like Gandalf. The Istari were the wizards who were sent to Middle-earth from Valinor. There were six Istari: Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, and the three Blue Wizards. __________________ That best portion of a good man's life, His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. .................William Wordsworth

12-30-2002, 01:13 AM	#4
zacattack Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Angband Posts: 70	Melkor who's common name is Morgoth was one of the Valar(Ainur) but he is no longer counted among them. Sauron is a Maia and was the servant of Aule. The 5 Istari were Curumo(Saruman),Olorin(Gandalf),Aiwendil(Radgast), Pallando and Alatar who were known as "Ithryn Luin" which means the Blue Wizards.They were sent by the Valar to contest the power of Sauron. Read The Silmarillion and The Book of Unfinished Tales __________________ "The dwarf breathes so loud we could have shot him in the dark "What an excellent spot I choose"-Gimli "Would you like me to describe it to you or just fetch for a box"-Legolas

12-30-2002, 05:58 PM	#7
Elendur Wight Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Arnor Posts: 200	That is weird that you could read a book two times and miss something so obvious. Do you zone out while reading? Sometimes I do that. I will have read a paragraph and then realize I had zoned out and I can't remember what I just read. I suggest paying closer attention while you read. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Son of Isildur.

12-30-2002, 02:33 PM	#5
Glaurung Guest Posts: n/a	oh well ive read the silmarrilion 2 times i guess i didnt pick this up. Thanks

12-30-2002, 07:48 PM	#8
Glaurung Guest Posts: n/a	i usually zone out too unless its a real interesting story. Also the first time i readf it it was way over my head and i understood nothing. I usually read some of my favorite stories like turin's and beren and luthien's over and over while the other i just kinda skim thru almost. especially the beginning of the book