6 Degrees of Separation - Page 28 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-13-2005, 06:11 PM

. . . and say "No items."

But I would give a hint: One of the links is tenuous: they just happened to be in the same city at the same time, and no proof is known that they actually met.

Lindolirian · 02-13-2005, 06:38 PM

Feanor-> Gothmog-> Tuor-> Turin

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-13-2005, 06:43 PM

(In the mode of a local game-show host:)

Correct!

Lindolirian · 02-13-2005, 06:48 PM

Lothíriel -> Lúthien
No Galadriel or Celeborn

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-13-2005, 07:52 PM

Lothíriel -> Éomer -> Aragorn -> Ring of Barahir -> Felagund -> Beren -> Lúthien?

Lindolirian · 02-13-2005, 07:58 PM

I have a shorter way, assuming all Ainur know each other thanks to that big campfire sing-along way back when.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-13-2005, 08:16 PM

Lothíriel -> Éomer -> Olórin -> Melian -> Lúthien

Quote:

. . . all Ainur know each other thanks to that big campfire sing-along way back when. (Lindo)

Y'mean the one where they sang:

Let's gather 'round the campfire, and sing our campfire song.
Our A-I-N-U-L-I-N-D-A-L-E-uh song.
And if you don't think . . .

Lindolirian · 02-13-2005, 08:22 PM

That would be it!

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-13-2005, 08:26 PM

Azaghal -> Aulë.

No Elves.

Lindolirian · 02-13-2005, 08:28 PM

Azaghal-> Glaurung-> Morgoth-> Aule

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-13-2005, 08:42 PM

*shrug* Oh, well. I didn't.

Your turn again.

Lindolirian · 02-13-2005, 08:46 PM

I take it your's was without an Ainu? How'd it go?
Up Next: Arahael-> Chief of the Lossoth

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-13-2005, 08:52 PM

Tuor did reach Valinor, so he must have met Aulë.

Enedwaith,

Arahael -> Aranarth -> Arvedui -> Chief of the Lossoth?

Lindolirian · 02-13-2005, 08:54 PM

And this last one was too easy for you?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-13-2005, 09:09 PM

It's nearly time for class. And I have a presentation to make.

Amarië -> Amandil

Fingolfin II · 02-13-2005, 11:27 PM

Amarie -> Finrod -> (Galadriel) -> Gil-galad -> Elendil -> Amandil

Nilpaurion Felagund · 02-14-2005, 09:45 PM

Yup.

Fingolfin II · 02-14-2005, 11:58 PM

Cheers,

Numendil -> Lenwe

Lindolirian · 02-17-2005, 07:57 AM

Numendil->(Amandil)-> Sauron-> Luthien-> Thingol-> Denethor-> Lenwë

Fingolfin II · 02-17-2005, 11:33 PM

There's another way, not involving Sauron

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Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 02-18-2005, 02:04 AM

Numendil->Amandil->Elendil->Cirdan->Thingol->Denethor->Lenwe

I'm assuming Elendil and Cirdan met?

Fingolfin II · 02-18-2005, 08:07 PM

Even if they did meet, that's still seven people

. Try again!

Formendacil · 02-18-2005, 08:17 PM

Númendil-> Elendil-> Gil-galad-> Círdan-> Olwë-> Lenwë

I'm making the guess that Númendil met his grandson. If this is contradicted in canon, I'm obviously wrong, but I would think it a logical assumption considering the relative lifespans of the Númenorians.

Fingolfin II · 02-19-2005, 12:11 AM

The connection I had in mind was also based on that assumption. An interesting question would be to assume Elendil and Numendil never met, I wonder if we could somehow link Orome and/or Galadriel in there....anyway, I'm rambling. You're up

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Formendacil · 02-19-2005, 08:59 PM

Oh shoot...

I guessed it right. Now I have to think of something...

Fatty Lumpkin --> Chief Warg in The Hobbit, ANIMALS only.

Lindolirian · 02-23-2005, 06:03 PM

Fatty Lumpkin-> Merry's ponies-> Bill the pony-> Wargs of the Misty Mts-> Chief of the Wargs

Formendacil · 02-25-2005, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lindolirian

Fatty Lumpkin-> Merry's ponies-> Bill the pony-> Wargs of the Misty Mts-> Chief of the Wargs

That's only five, and it's not what I had in mind....

I don't know, do assume that the Wargs knew the Chief Warg from the Hobbit? Eighty years have passed, and even if the Wargs have a human lifespan, that's a long time....

You got the first two steps in the middle right, though. At least as far as my system went.

I don't know, should I give it to you?

Lindolirian · 02-25-2005, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formendacil

That's only five, and it's not what I had in mind...

Just for clarification, six degrees is only the maximum allowed in a puzzle, it can be less. But should you let me have that? No, I was chancing the Warg connection anyway. I have to leave here soon, so I can't come up with a reasonable a guess now, but if no one else does, I'll figure it out.

Celebriel Esgaledhel · 02-26-2005, 11:14 PM

Hey, formy, I've got relatives in Olds (actually, in Vergreville, but my aunt works in Olds in the cop station, I think)

Lindolirian · 02-27-2005, 03:33 PM

Fatty Lumpkin-> Merry's ponies-> Nazgul's horses-> Fell beasts-> Gwaihir (and other eagles)-> Chief of the Wargs

Of course I'm only assuming that the different steeds of the Ringwraiths were connected, maybe being trained at the same time and place or something of the sort.

Formendacil · 02-28-2005, 01:29 PM

Interesting hypothesis. Could work, although again it gets speculative... Not what I had in mind. But you did incorporate part of what I was thinking.

Want to try again?

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-09-2005, 02:05 AM

Uh, a hint?

Formendacil · 03-09-2005, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Uh, a hint?

Okay, I suggest taking both of Lindolirian's guesses, and meshing them together. That (with an addition), should produce the desired results.

*Think the Battle at the Black Gate*

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-10-2005, 09:38 PM

Fatty Lumpkin -> Merry's ponies -> Nazgûl's horses -> Shadowfax -> Fell beasts-> Eagles of the Misty Mountains -> Chief of the Wargs?

Celebriel Esgaledhel · 03-12-2005, 09:25 PM

They should accept that as an answer. In any case, a reply of any sort would seem in order.

Formendacil · 03-14-2005, 03:35 PM

Sorry its taken so long to reply. It's been a crazy weekend...

I may as well just give it to you, although that appears to be one too many links.

I was looking for:

Fatty Lumpkin-> Merry's Ponies->Shadowfax (met them in Bree on the way back)-> Fell Beasts (Battle of the Pelennor, Battle of the Black Gate)-> Gwaihir-> Chief Warg.

Thinking back, I suppose I could have skipped the Fell Beasts, seeing as Shadowfax was also present at the Black Gate.

Anyway, next please.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-14-2005, 09:55 PM

Celegorm -> Ceorl

Lindolirian · 03-15-2005, 02:27 PM

Celegorm-> Orome-> Felarof-> Ceorl

Formendacil · 03-15-2005, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lindolirian

Celegorm-> Orome-> Felarof-> Ceorl

Can't work. Ceorl was the messanger in the LotR who meets Theoden's army coming out, and whose message directs them to Helm's Deep, and sends Gandalf off on his own mission. You seem to have him confused with Eorl the Young.

Here's my guess, if I'm allowed (thanks Lindolirian for the genesis of the idea):

Celegorm-> Orome-> Nahar*-> Felarof-> Herugrim (Theoden's blade, presumably inherited from Eorl)-> Ceorl (who would have seen/met it when he met Theoden).

*I am making the assumption that Orome never actually saw Felarof, and that Felarof was the direct offspring of Nahar, hence the association: Felarof "Met" Nahar in the act of his creation.

Lindolirian · 03-15-2005, 08:47 PM

Oh, that's embarassing. Cirion and Eorl when mixed, kinda sound like Ceorl in my head.

Good call Formendacil. However, in the even that yours doesn't work, I'll have another go.
Celegorm-> (Finrod)-> Galadriel-> Aragorn-> Ceorl

02-13-2005, 06:11 PM	#1081
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	I'd be real evil . . . . . . and say "No items." But I would give a hint: One of the links is tenuous: they just happened to be in the same city at the same time, and no proof is known that they actually met. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-13-2005, 06:38 PM	#1082
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Feanor-> Gothmog-> Tuor-> Turin __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-13-2005, 06:43 PM	#1083
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Zing! (In the mode of a local game-show host:) Correct! __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-13-2005, 06:48 PM	#1084
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Thanks Lothíriel -> Lúthien No Galadriel or Celeborn __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-13-2005, 07:52 PM	#1085
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Yes items? Lothíriel -> Éomer -> Aragorn -> Ring of Barahir -> Felagund -> Beren -> Lúthien? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-13-2005, 07:58 PM	#1086
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	I have a shorter way, assuming all Ainur know each other thanks to that big campfire sing-along way back when. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-13-2005, 08:22 PM	#1088
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Nice rendition... That would be it! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-13-2005, 08:26 PM	#1089
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Thanks! Azaghal -> Aulë. No Elves. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-13-2005, 08:28 PM	#1090
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Azaghal-> Glaurung-> Morgoth-> Aule __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-13-2005, 08:42 PM	#1091
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	I should have said no Ainu. shrug Oh, well. I didn't. Your turn again. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-13-2005, 08:46 PM	#1092
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	I take it your's was without an Ainu? How'd it go? Up Next: Arahael-> Chief of the Lossoth __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-13-2005, 08:52 PM	#1093
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Glaurung -> Turin -> Tuor Tuor did reach Valinor, so he must have met Aulë. Enedwaith, Arahael -> Aranarth -> Arvedui -> Chief of the Lossoth? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-13-2005, 08:54 PM	#1094
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Ah, I see... And this last one was too easy for you? __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-13-2005, 09:09 PM	#1095
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	This has to be my last for the day. It's nearly time for class. And I have a presentation to make. Amarië -> Amandil __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-13-2005, 11:27 PM	#1096
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,039	Amarie -> Finrod -> (Galadriel) -> Gil-galad -> Elendil -> Amandil __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

02-14-2005, 09:45 PM	#1097
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Yup. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

02-14-2005, 11:58 PM	#1098
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,039	Cheers, Numendil -> Lenwe __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

02-17-2005, 07:57 AM	#1099
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Is Sauron allowed? Numendil->(Amandil)-> Sauron-> Luthien-> Thingol-> Denethor-> Lenwë __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-17-2005, 11:33 PM	#1100
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,039	Good answer, but... There's another way, not involving Sauron . __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

02-18-2005, 02:04 AM	#1101
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,834	Numendil->Amandil->Elendil->Cirdan->Thingol->Denethor->Lenwe I'm assuming Elendil and Cirdan met? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

02-18-2005, 08:07 PM	#1102
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,039	Even if they did meet, that's still seven people . Try again! __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

02-18-2005, 08:17 PM	#1103
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,347	Númendil-> Elendil-> Gil-galad-> Círdan-> Olwë-> Lenwë I'm making the guess that Númendil met his grandson. If this is contradicted in canon, I'm obviously wrong, but I would think it a logical assumption considering the relative lifespans of the Númenorians. __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

02-19-2005, 12:11 AM	#1104
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,039	The connection I had in mind was also based on that assumption. An interesting question would be to assume Elendil and Numendil never met, I wonder if we could somehow link Orome and/or Galadriel in there....anyway, I'm rambling. You're up . __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

02-19-2005, 08:59 PM	#1105
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,347	Oh shoot... I guessed it right. Now I have to think of something... Fatty Lumpkin --> Chief Warg in The Hobbit, ANIMALS only. __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

02-23-2005, 06:03 PM	#1106
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Fatty Lumpkin-> Merry's ponies-> Bill the pony-> Wargs of the Misty Mts-> Chief of the Wargs __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-26-2005, 11:14 PM	#1109
Celebriel Esgaledhel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Almaren Posts: 94	Hey, formy, I've got relatives in Olds (actually, in Vergreville, but my aunt works in Olds in the cop station, I think) __________________ Virtus, non copia vincint

02-27-2005, 03:33 PM	#1110
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Fatty Lumpkin-> Merry's ponies-> Nazgul's horses-> Fell beasts-> Gwaihir (and other eagles)-> Chief of the Wargs Of course I'm only assuming that the different steeds of the Ringwraiths were connected, maybe being trained at the same time and place or something of the sort. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

02-28-2005, 01:29 PM	#1111
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,347	Interesting hypothesis. Could work, although again it gets speculative... Not what I had in mind. But you did incorporate part of what I was thinking. Want to try again? __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

03-09-2005, 02:05 AM	#1112
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Formendacil: Uh, a hint? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-10-2005, 09:38 PM	#1114
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	WAGs. Fatty Lumpkin -> Merry's ponies -> Nazgûl's horses -> Shadowfax -> Fell beasts-> Eagles of the Misty Mountains -> Chief of the Wargs? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-12-2005, 09:25 PM	#1115
Celebriel Esgaledhel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Almaren Posts: 94	They should accept that as an answer. In any case, a reply of any sort would seem in order. __________________ Virtus, non copia vincint

03-14-2005, 03:35 PM	#1116
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,347	Sorry its taken so long to reply. It's been a crazy weekend... I may as well just give it to you, although that appears to be one too many links. I was looking for: Fatty Lumpkin-> Merry's Ponies->Shadowfax (met them in Bree on the way back)-> Fell Beasts (Battle of the Pelennor, Battle of the Black Gate)-> Gwaihir-> Chief Warg. Thinking back, I suppose I could have skipped the Fell Beasts, seeing as Shadowfax was also present at the Black Gate. Anyway, next please. __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

03-14-2005, 09:55 PM	#1117
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,430	Celegorm -> Ceorl __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-15-2005, 02:27 PM	#1118
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Celegorm-> Orome-> Felarof-> Ceorl __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

03-15-2005, 08:47 PM	#1120
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,126	Oh, that's embarassing. Cirion and Eorl when mixed, kinda sound like Ceorl in my head. Good call Formendacil. However, in the even that yours doesn't work, I'll have another go. Celegorm-> (Finrod)-> Galadriel-> Aragorn-> Ceorl __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."