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Old Yesterday, 12:11 PM   #3281
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Great to have another poster hooked on cryptic clues ... especially when they bring their own style of passwords to the thread.

A tentative guess of EAMBAR for 8. ER for hesitation AB for Able Seaman (I know my Arthur Ransome, even though I've never understood why AB is the abbreviation).

Perhaps there's a kind of grease called MA or AM?

(I did say it was a *tentative* guess).

On the subject of grease, HIRILONDE doesn't quite contain all of LARD. (How very daren't it).
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Old Yesterday, 12:17 PM   #3282
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1. Each of his tales contains a small core of truth.
2. Their blade twists in the deep waters; it does not heed the foam above.
3. Each began alone, but their simple tunes came together in a grand symphony.
4. "It's like steel wool," said the king, "but worse, and pre-cut for us."
5. From scourge of the north to a whisper in the dark, the prince's sad fate.
6. Twice walled in mithril (well, almost), a small region of fair woodlands.
7. Like miruvor, it's a bit pathetic, eh?
8. Hesitant, the sailor erratically greased his boat.

It is only fair to note that #5 is the only pure straight clue of the lot; the rest are cryptic to one extent or another.

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Quoting the puzzle to get it on the current page.

I wonder if 7 might be ALE - a drink (as miruvor is) and contains most of the word 'lame' for 'a bit pathetic.'
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Old Yesterday, 01:16 PM   #3283
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No to all the above. You're on the right track with your effort at #7, though!

As for #8, the boat is a red herring; it's just there so the sailor has something to grease.

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Old Yesterday, 04:45 PM   #3284
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8. Eriol? (Er + oil).

3. Ainur?

7 isn't just miruvore, is it?
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Doubt this right but it almost fits.

6. Hobbit- Bilbo and Frodo in Mithril, Pippin was almost tossed in a well small region IE A bit.
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Old Today, 02:45 AM   #3286
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8. Eriol? (Er + oil).
Correct! Eriol the mariner, one of the many 'the mariner's in the Legendarium.

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3. Ainur?

7 isn't just miruvore, is it?
Sadly neither of these are right, though 'Ainur' was a deliberate red herring. There is a cryptic component to #3.

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Doubt this right but it almost fits.

6. Hobbit- Bilbo and Frodo in Mithril, Pippin was almost tossed in a well small region IE A bit.
... I really like this answer, but sadly it isn't correct, or even anywhere close. It's an excellent answer, though.

1. Each of his tales contains a small core of truth.
2. Their blade twists in the deep waters; it does not heed the foam above.
3. Each began alone, but their simple tunes came together in a grand symphony.
4. "It's like steel wool," said the king, "but worse, and pre-cut for us."
5. From scourge of the north to a whisper in the dark, the prince's sad fate.
6. Twice walled in mithril (well, almost), a small region of fair woodlands.
7. Like miruvor, it's a bit pathetic, eh?
Eriol - Hesitant, the sailor erratically greased his boat.

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Old Today, 03:08 AM   #3287
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That was my concern with Ainur - that it was a straight answer.

If the symphony is a musical one, it could be the Rohirrim (the blowing of their horns) or the dwarves making music after tea at Bilbo's (can't think of any others).

I'm inclined to think it's a *metaphorical* symphony and *metaphorical* tunes, though.

Two ideas (probably both wrong):

1. Various people set out alone for Rivendell, and met and gave their accounts ('sang their tunes') at the 'great symphony' that was the Council of Elrond.

2. Many people individually shouted praise for the Ringbearers on the Field of Cormallen, and it mingled into a great symphony.
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Old Today, 04:49 AM   #3288
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Could 7 be MEAD? This is more like miruvor than ale, but also contains three letters of 'lame' for 'a bit pathetic.'
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#3: Sorry, no. It may be worth ignoring the symphony part and focussing on what they were before they joined together.

#7: Still not there, but still in the right general concept. I originally planned to make the clue say 'a bit wet', but changed it at the last minute (I'm honestly not sure if this will help or hinder...).

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If the Misty Mountains curve around at some point and kind of create 2 walls, each either side of some woodland ... might that happen in EREGION?

Need to consult a map.

It could also occur in Numenor, the only other place to have mithril (unless there is any in the Uttermost West), but I don't think we're told whereabouts in Numenor it is.
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There has to be mithril in Aman, because:

A ship then new they built for him/Of mithril and of elven-glass

But in this case, 'mithril (well, almost)' is part of the cryptic side of the clue.

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Old Today, 05:48 AM   #3292
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You said it's the metal, not the letters in the word 'mithril' that we need, though?

There is Lothlorien, by the SILVERlode?
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Old Today, 06:03 AM   #3293
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I did, and 'silver' is along the right lines (but the wrong metal).

But it's not Lothlorien.

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There's platinum, but AFAIK they don't have it in Middle-earth, or mithril is a sort of equivalent of it.

So ... how about a metal having one of mithril's qualities ... I think it was (or the metal made from it was) as hard as STEEL.

I wonder if we're looking for a double wall of spears or swords ... in which case it could perhaps be the GLADDEN FIELDS?
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