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Old 09-14-2017, 05:25 AM   #3001
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So - I tried Ragnir, and he was blind and closer to Turin's family.

RAN + RIG for set-up?
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Old 09-14-2017, 05:32 AM   #3002
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:55 AM   #3003
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Here you go ...

I had Rannveig or something running through my mind, but I think that might be from a Norse saga I read a long time ago. Another great themed password, Galadriel!

1. See her as the hue of Edith’s hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends.
2. The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist.
3. Spin a bay window and add direction for him.
4. Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her.
5. See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him.
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Is #4 VNA? Or rather ANV, since it's reflected? ("Nave" - E + A).
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1. See her as the hue of Ediths hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends.
2. The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist.
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ANAV: Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her.
5. See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him.
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1. See her as the hue of Ediths hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends.
AULE: The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist.
3. Spin a bay window and add direction for him.
ANAV: Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her.
5. See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him.
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VAIRE: See her as the hue of Ediths hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends.
AULE: The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist.
3. Spin a bay window and add direction for him.
ANAV: Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her.
5. See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him.
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3 is Lrien, and I think the password is Valar, so 5 must be rokleM
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Old 09-19-2017, 06:05 AM   #3011
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VAIRE: See her as the hue of Edith’s hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends.
AULE: The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist.
LORIEN: Spin a bay window and add direction for him.
ANAV: Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her.
ROKLEM: See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him.

Indeed. Over to you.

Oriel + N.
Le + Mork.
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Old 09-19-2017, 08:48 AM   #3012
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Would you mind explaining Lorien and Melkor please?
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See the bottom of my post, where I added it when I put the answers in.

I do think, though, that when *guessing* an answer, we should provide the working out.
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He was one of the title characters in the Happy Days spin-off Mork and Mindy, and was played by Robin Williams.

Edit: As promised earlier, here's another word of passing

1: Shot and fled up to the water
2: Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing
3: Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half!
4: Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one
5: Round on father of a terrible promise
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11. South Gondor, now a debatable and desert land?

9. Orodreth (anagram).
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9 is right and 11 is wrong but close

1: Shot and fled up to the water
2: Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing
3: Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half!
4: Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one
5: Round on father of a terrible promise
6: Wood's awful threat for a French one
7: Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot.
8: King's call received by two men
9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader
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Harad for 11?
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It's not Harad. You were close before verbally, not geographically.
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5. Not sure about 'round on,' but possibly a reference to FEANOR and his terrible oath? Eight took it, but he was their biological father and its originator.
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10. Neithan, because nothing more cryptic comes to mind with this red flag in front of my eyes.

And maybe Arnor for the questionable country?
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Old 09-20-2017, 02:26 PM   #3022
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Neithan is right for 10. Fanor isn't for 5, but you're heading in the right direction. Arnor isn't the questionable country.

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1: Shot and fled up to the water
2: Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing
3: Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half!
4: Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one
5: Round on father of a terrible promise
6: Wood's awful threat for a French one
7: Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot.
8: King's call received by two men
9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader
10: NEITHAN Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss
11: Questionable country bordering on hostile
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Nargothrond for password?

1. NAROG, as it is water and contains "ran"?

6. Keep thinking about Taur-nu-Fuin, as it contains "un" and is a wood. Don't know about awful threat.
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Narog is right for 1 (Go and ran backwards), and the password is indeed Nargothrond. 6 is not Taur-nu-Fuin


1: NAROG Shot and fled up to the water
2: A Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing
3: R Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half!
4: G Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one
5: O Round on father of a terrible promise
6: T Wood's awful threat for a French one
7: H Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot.
8: R King's call received by two men
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11: D Questionable country bordering on hostile
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Glaurung for G? Gold could be Au, line accounts for L, rung for ladder. Only thing is, NAG doesn't add up exactly to the rest of the letters.
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D ... Dunland? (un-land?)
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OK, Squatter has just confirmed in person that Dunland is wrong.

DAGORLAD? - a plain, so not really a country, and there were certainly hostilities there.

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(Faramir Jones has made me aware of another Middle-earth substance - *silmari* - wish I'd known in time for my Mithril password!)
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I think 3 might be RINGWIL - 'grin' rearranged plus half of 'willow' (although it says 'not half' - so one half of willow but not the other half?)
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2. Arminas, bringing wise counsel to shut the doors, hiding in the words of the clue.
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Glaurung is right, but the structure is GG (nag) around l au run (ladder)
Arminas and Ringwil are both right too, but Dagorlad is not.


1: NAROG Shot and fled up to the water
2: ARMINAS Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing
3: RINGWIL Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half!
4: GLAURUNG Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one
5: O Round on father of a terrible promise
6: T Wood's awful threat for a French one
7: H Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot.
8: R King's call received by two men
9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader
10: NEITHAN Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss
11: D Questionable country bordering on hostile
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Thoughts on number 5

My initial thoughts were that this clue is related to the Ring of Barahir, a "round" on Finrod who made the fateful promise to help Barahir's house. Pursuing that line of thought, I couldn't think of anyone related to that story who would start with O. Not sure if there were other named round items belonging to Feanor or Finwe, who could be the father.

If you take Round to mean the initial O, the rest doesn't shape itself too nicely either.

Unless it's just OATH OF FEANOR?
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I wonder if 8 might be RED ARROW.
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6. TAUR-EN-FAROTH.

Awful= anagram indicator.

So, switch around THREAT, FOR A and UN.
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I wonder if 8 might be RED ARROW.
Wonder no longer! It isn't.

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My initial thoughts were that this clue is related to the Ring of Barahir, a "round" on Finrod who made the fateful promise to help Barahir's house. Pursuing that line of thought, I couldn't think of anyone related to that story who would start with O. Not sure if there were other named round items belonging to Feanor or Finwe, who could be the father.
You're barking up the wrong tree there.

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Unless it's just OATH OF FEANOR?
That's the right tree. Round (O), then an anagram of 'on father of a'.

Pervinca is right about 6 on all counts, so we have:

1: NAROG Shot and fled up to the water
2: ARMINAS Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing
3: RINGWIL Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half!
4: GLAURUNG Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one
5: OATH OF FANOR Round on father of a terrible promise
6: TAUR EN FAROTH Wood's awful threat for a French one
7: H Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot.
8: R King's call received by two men
9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader
10: NEITHAN Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss
11: D Questionable country bordering on hostile
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11. Dor-Lomin a questionable country because it was part of Hithlum? Later taken by Morgoth; destroyed in the War of Wrath.
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Not Dor-Lmin either, I'm afraid. You're overthinking this one.
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If South Gondor was debatable and desert, Dimbar was sandy and a 'sad-land.'
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8. ROMENDACIL?

Declaim + Ron is only one man plus call, but two men/kings were called Romendacil.

OR

Claim + Ron + Ed.
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Neither Dimbar nor Rmendacil is right.
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Dol Guldur, then.
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