Admin Thread - Werewolf LIII: The Republic - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-28-2008, 05:53 AM

The Moddesses:

Fea
Mithalwen
Rikae

The Players:

3 – corrupt politicians (werewolves)
1 – zealous reporter (seer)
X – ordinary villagers

The Concept:

A rider swept into the village one night carrying a package: he was directed to the home of the village scholar. He stayed only briefly, and then wasn’t seen again. The scholar spent the following days in seclusion, studying the plague of werewolves upon the world.

One day, about a week later, the scholar stepped forth from his home and called a town meeting.

“I know why people keep misdiagnosing lupine symptoms!” he cried to the people.

“Why?” they asked.

“It’s because the uneducated rabble are allowed a popular vote and we all know that they oughtn’t to be allowed to make such significant decisions when they’re merely uninformed blockheads!” he responded at full volume.

The people were rather offended. “Why shouldn’t we kill you for what you’ve just said?” they asked.

“Because I have a solution!” he cried.

“And that is?” asked a villager, eyebrow raised.

“Everybody will still get a vote,” he assured, to people’s relief, “but they will vote for the best and the brightest to represent their interests.”

His statement was met with blank stares.

He tried again. “The next time we have a problem with werewolves, witches, demons, vampires, or other unsavory sorts, rather than each villager picking who he wants to kill, each villager should choose somebody they believe to represent their best interests, and then the representatives chosen will put their smarter-than-average heads together and get us out of the mess.”

The villagers began to nod, some sooner than others, comprehending. One villager spoke up. “So instead of voting on issues, we vote on people to solve our issues for us?”

“Exactly! You delegate responsibility! It will simplify everything!” cried the scholar.

The village was dubious, but he was a scholar, and everybody knows that scholars are always right. Thusly the democratic village evolved into a wee bit of a republic overnight.

Night Time:

Nights will last 24 hours.

The wolves have the right and ability to communicate amongst themselves. They will choose a villager to kill. They will send the name of this villager to the moderator at least one hour before Day is to begin. That villager will be found dead at dawn.

The seer has the right and ability to request the identity of one villager per night from the moderator.

Day Time:

Days will last 48 hours.

During the Day, wolves are forbidden from communicating amongst themselves via Private Message.

The Day will contain two deadlines.

Deadline One will occur at the end of the first 24 hours. It is by Deadline One that the villagers must choose who will represent their interests in the final vote. Villagers will not vote for the player they believe to be a wolf. Villagers will vote for another villager to represent them: these chosen players are thence forward called Representatives. A player must acquire two non-retractable votes of confidence in order to become a Representative. A player may never vote for his or herself. A Representative’s vote carries as much power as there were votes to make said player a Representative, therefore: the final vote of a Representative who was chosen by four villagers will have exactly twice as much weight as the final vote of a Representative who was chosen by only two villagers. As long as a villager has received at least two non-retractable votes of confidence from the village before Deadline One, s/he will be considered a Representative for the final vote.

Votes of confidence (which elect Representatives) should appear as:

++Fea

Deadline Two will coincide with the end of the Day (24 hours after Deadline One). It is by Deadline Two that the village’s chosen Representatives must decide upon who will be lynched. To reiterate: the village will have 24 hours during which to choose Representatives, who will have a further 24 hours to vote for who they think should be lynched as a wolf. Representatives are by no means obligated to vote according to the wishes of their constituents, though it should be obvious that voting against the wishes of the people who elected you will probably result in bad karma.

The final non-retractable lynch-vote given by a Representative as a means to choose which villager is to be killed at the end of Day should appear as:

++Fea++

All villagers are allowed to talk for the entire duration of the Day, but only Representatives may vote after Deadline One.

Deadlines will be measured by the Barrowdowns clock.

Summarized Rules:

Votes are non-retractable.

You may never vote for yourself.

In the event of a tie-vote amongst Representatives, multiple lynches will occur.

Wolves may only PM at Night.

Dead players may communicate with each other about the game if they so desire, but not with players who are still alive. No crossing planes of existence.

Deadlines occur at X:00 ‘Downs time. Any votes logged at X:01 or later will not be counted.

As this game could easily fall into discussions of politics, role-playing is strictly prohibited. This game is absolutely not to break Barrowdowns Policy in any manner, but specifically in regard to political opinions. Keep ‘em to yourselves. Any breach of this rule will result in immediate and merciless modfire. If the delinquent player’s vote has already been cast, the vote will be disqualified. This remains true even if the player is a chosen Representative. Keep that in mind: if you’re a Rep and you get modfired, you’re throwing away the vote of every person who chose you. There will be no exceptions to this rule. Absolutely no personal politics, end of story.

Player List:

the phantom
Eönwë
Lommy
Legate
Diamond18
Gwathagor
Aganzir
Shasta
mormegil
Nogrod
Boromir88
Greenie
McCaber
Nerwen (?)
Rune
Brinniel
Gil-Galad
Ilya
Sally
The Ka

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-28-2008, 05:55 AM

Sign ups start now. We will begin as soon as possible after the end of Diamond's game.

Deadline is negotiable due to the nature of the game: a significant number of players must be able to be around for deadline. Let me know what will be the best deadline for you and I'll make an executive decision.

Eönwë · 10-28-2008, 06:25 AM

Sign me up please.

A quick question: If you are voted to be a representative, if you vote for another representative, does that mean that your votees' weight (as in how many people voted for you) gets passed on to your representative, or do you still vote as a representative, just not representing yourself?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-28-2008, 06:28 AM

Gotcha.

Thinlómien · 10-28-2008, 07:21 AM

I have a feeling this will be horrible, but please sign me in.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-28-2008, 07:27 AM

I am sure this will be great, it looks most, most interesting. Whenever it's going to take place, already now I am sure I'd like to attend this one.

THE Ka · 11-09-2008, 02:06 AM

*comes in a whirlwind and covered with birthday confetti*

Am I too late to join? Sorry to come all of the sudden, but Aganzir and Sally convinced me that this would be awesome. Plus, it would work perfectly with my horrible work schedule. I'm really looking forward to 24 hour days and nights, and the representative element. Oooh, reminds me of Political Science 210 all over again! This sounds fun, so, if there's room for one more, please may I join?

Quote:

Representatives are by no means obligated to vote according to the wishes of their constituents, though it should be obvious that voting against the wishes of the people who elected you will probably result in bad karma.

... And a guillotine. Please?

In a way, I really shouldn't be attracted to this after two bloody years of the same thing, but it's much sweeter actually knowing your representatives now.

Also, I'm really wondering if this experiment is going to morph into a completely tyrannical form later on, like maybe a Jacobian Club.

~ Ka

Boromir88 · 11-09-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote:

like maybe a Jacobian Club.~Ka

I was thinking more of the Salem Witch trials, but I like this reference much better. Good to have you on "the floor" Ka.

testing, testing...

Sally, wrap whatever you want to highlight in quotes, and just replace the word "quote" with "highlight".

satansaloser2005 · 11-09-2008, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I was thinking more of the Salem Witch trials, but I like this reference much better. Good to have you on "the floor" Ka.

testing, testing...

Sally, wrap whatever you want to highlight in quotes, and just replace the word "quote" with "highlight".

Oho!

Thanks, Boro!

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-09-2008, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE Ka

if there's room for one more, please may I join?

Yes. I'll be mailing out the roles some time in the next couple hours. Anybody know if Nerwen's still in?

Aganzir · 11-09-2008, 10:27 AM

Given that we have quite a few players, would a pack of four wolves sound fair?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-09-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE Ka

... And a guillotine. Please?

That's what I have been hoping for from the beginning. What more appropriate matter of execution for the newly formed Republic anyway?

P.S. Vive la Commune de Paris!

mormegil · 10-29-2008, 10:02 AM

I'm in...that is if you'll have me.

the phantom · 10-29-2008, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate

Well, if you can make these long Days interesting, the better, because I am somewhat worried they might be pretty long and silent.

No reason to worry about that sort of thing, Legate.

the phantom is playing.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 10-29-2008, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the phantom

the phantom is playing.

Mwa ha ha. In that case, I already know what I am going to do...

Okay all people, let's NOT vote Mr.P. as our representative at all!!!

Aganzir · 10-29-2008, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Okay all people, let's NOT vote Mr.P. as our representative at all!!!

Except if I tell you to. Seriously.

mormegil · 10-29-2008, 12:35 PM

Now if I understand this correctly, there will essentially be 3 full periods to complete a cycle, evertime. So we have 24 hours to elect a representative, 24 to lynch, 24 to night, then start all over with a new 24 hour period to elect new reps...correct?

Shastanis Althreduin · 10-29-2008, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the phantom

No reason to worry about that sort of thing, Legate.

the phantom is playing.

Oh lord....

Nogrod · 10-29-2008, 05:08 PM

I'm in... how could one miss this?

Boromir88 · 10-29-2008, 05:14 PM

Yes Legate, no need to worry...

Quote:

the phantom is playing.

Because I will be joining in the melee too, Fea.

10-28-2008, 05:53 AM	#1
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,600	Admin Thread - Werewolf LIII: The Republic The Moddesses: Fea Mithalwen Rikae The Players: 3 – corrupt politicians (werewolves) 1 – zealous reporter (seer) X – ordinary villagers The Concept: A rider swept into the village one night carrying a package: he was directed to the home of the village scholar. He stayed only briefly, and then wasn’t seen again. The scholar spent the following days in seclusion, studying the plague of werewolves upon the world. One day, about a week later, the scholar stepped forth from his home and called a town meeting. “I know why people keep misdiagnosing lupine symptoms!” he cried to the people. “Why?” they asked. “It’s because the uneducated rabble are allowed a popular vote and we all know that they oughtn’t to be allowed to make such significant decisions when they’re merely uninformed blockheads!” he responded at full volume. The people were rather offended. “Why shouldn’t we kill you for what you’ve just said?” they asked. “Because I have a solution!” he cried. “And that is?” asked a villager, eyebrow raised. “Everybody will still get a vote,” he assured, to people’s relief, “but they will vote for the best and the brightest to represent their interests.” His statement was met with blank stares. He tried again. “The next time we have a problem with werewolves, witches, demons, vampires, or other unsavory sorts, rather than each villager picking who he wants to kill, each villager should choose somebody they believe to represent their best interests, and then the representatives chosen will put their smarter-than-average heads together and get us out of the mess.” The villagers began to nod, some sooner than others, comprehending. One villager spoke up. “So instead of voting on issues, we vote on people to solve our issues for us?” “Exactly! You delegate responsibility! It will simplify everything!” cried the scholar. The village was dubious, but he was a scholar, and everybody knows that scholars are always right. Thusly the democratic village evolved into a wee bit of a republic overnight. Night Time: Nights will last 24 hours. The wolves have the right and ability to communicate amongst themselves. They will choose a villager to kill. They will send the name of this villager to the moderator at least one hour before Day is to begin. That villager will be found dead at dawn. The seer has the right and ability to request the identity of one villager per night from the moderator. Day Time: Days will last 48 hours. During the Day, wolves are forbidden from communicating amongst themselves via Private Message. The Day will contain two deadlines. Deadline One will occur at the end of the first 24 hours. It is by Deadline One that the villagers must choose who will represent their interests in the final vote. Villagers will not vote for the player they believe to be a wolf. Villagers will vote for another villager to represent them: these chosen players are thence forward called Representatives. A player must acquire two non-retractable votes of confidence in order to become a Representative. A player may never vote for his or herself. A Representative’s vote carries as much power as there were votes to make said player a Representative, therefore: the final vote of a Representative who was chosen by four villagers will have exactly twice as much weight as the final vote of a Representative who was chosen by only two villagers. As long as a villager has received at least two non-retractable votes of confidence from the village before Deadline One, s/he will be considered a Representative for the final vote. Votes of confidence (which elect Representatives) should appear as: ++Fea Deadline Two will coincide with the end of the Day (24 hours after Deadline One). It is by Deadline Two that the village’s chosen Representatives must decide upon who will be lynched. To reiterate: the village will have 24 hours during which to choose Representatives, who will have a further 24 hours to vote for who they think should be lynched as a wolf. Representatives are by no means obligated to vote according to the wishes of their constituents, though it should be obvious that voting against the wishes of the people who elected you will probably result in bad karma. The final non-retractable lynch-vote given by a Representative as a means to choose which villager is to be killed at the end of Day should appear as: ++Fea++ All villagers are allowed to talk for the entire duration of the Day, but only Representatives may vote after Deadline One. Deadlines will be measured by the Barrowdowns clock. Summarized Rules: Votes are non-retractable. You may never vote for yourself. In the event of a tie-vote amongst Representatives, multiple lynches will occur. Wolves may only PM at Night. Dead players may communicate with each other about the game if they so desire, but not with players who are still alive. No crossing planes of existence. Deadlines occur at X:00 ‘Downs time. Any votes logged at X:01 or later will not be counted. As this game could easily fall into discussions of politics, role-playing is strictly prohibited. This game is absolutely not to break Barrowdowns Policy in any manner, but specifically in regard to political opinions. Keep ‘em to yourselves. Any breach of this rule will result in immediate and merciless modfire. If the delinquent player’s vote has already been cast, the vote will be disqualified. This remains true even if the player is a chosen Representative. Keep that in mind: if you’re a Rep and you get modfired, you’re throwing away the vote of every person who chose you. There will be no exceptions to this rule. Absolutely no personal politics, end of story. Player List: the phantom Eönwë Lommy Legate Diamond18 Gwathagor Aganzir Shasta mormegil Nogrod Boromir88 Greenie McCaber Nerwen (?) Rune Brinniel Gil-Galad Ilya Sally The Ka __________________ peace Last edited by Feanor of the Peredhil; 11-09-2008 at 10:00 AM.

10-28-2008, 05:55 AM	#2
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,600	Sign ups start now. We will begin as soon as possible after the end of Diamond's game. Deadline is negotiable due to the nature of the game: a significant number of players must be able to be around for deadline. Let me know what will be the best deadline for you and I'll make an executive decision. __________________ peace

10-28-2008, 06:25 AM	#3
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,953	Sign me up please. A quick question: If you are voted to be a representative, if you vote for another representative, does that mean that your votees' weight (as in how many people voted for you) gets passed on to your representative, or do you still vote as a representative, just not representing yourself? __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

10-28-2008, 06:28 AM	#4
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,600	Gotcha. __________________ peace

10-28-2008, 07:21 AM	#5
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,217	I have a feeling this will be horrible, but please sign me in. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

10-28-2008, 07:27 AM	#6
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,506	I am sure this will be great, it looks most, most interesting. Whenever it's going to take place, already now I am sure I'd like to attend this one. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

11-09-2008, 10:27 AM	#11
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,549	Given that we have quite a few players, would a pack of four wolves sound fair? __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

10-29-2008, 10:02 AM	#13
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,657	I'm in...that is if you'll have me. __________________ When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators. -- P. J. O'Rourke

10-29-2008, 12:35 PM	#17
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,657	Now if I understand this correctly, there will essentially be 3 full periods to complete a cycle, evertime. So we have 24 hours to elect a representative, 24 to lynch, 24 to night, then start all over with a new 24 hour period to elect new reps...correct? __________________ When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators. -- P. J. O'Rourke

10-29-2008, 05:08 PM	#19
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,310	I'm in... how could one miss this? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...