The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > Novices and Newcomers
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-28-2002, 03:26 PM   #1
Glamdring
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Sting Do Balrogs have wings? What Color is Legolas's Hair? What is Tom Bombadil? Entwives?

Just to clear things up, Balrogs have wings ("It's wings were spread form wall to wall; but still Gandalf could be seen...). Legolas has BLOND hair ("Elves were light of color, and rarely had Dark Beauty") and I have no friggin idea what happened to the Entwives or what mr. Bombadil is.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2002, 03:42 PM   #2
Ahanarion
Haunting Spirit
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Tirion upon Tuna
Posts: 94
Ahanarion has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

In my opinion Balrogs don't have wings (or at least not usable ones). This is suported by the Silmarillion in some intstances in the story Dagor Bragollach (Hope I spelled it right) it says that the Balrogs ran behind Glaurung not flew. In the quote you used the word wings may be a simile but everyone is entitled to their own opinions. As for Legolas he may have had blonde hair because in The Hobbit it says Thranduil has golden hair. I don't know where you got that last quote. In the Silmarillion the most of the Noldor have dark hair as do most of the Teleri (the group to which Legolas belongs). The Vanyar are however said to have predominatly light hair.
__________________
Ohtari i Noldor Hosta!
Ahanarion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2002, 03:57 PM   #3
Sharkű
Hungry Ghoul
 
Sharkű's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,721
Sharkű has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

Down, nasty topics!

Seriously, those are not without reason old bones of contention, that don't really need a new thread to voice a subjective opinion on something that has extensively discussed in scholarly manner in several hundred thousand words in this forum alone.
Sharkű is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2002, 03:58 PM   #4
Ereinion
Animated Skeleton
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Coventry, RI
Posts: 26
Ereinion has just left Hobbiton.
Send a message via AIM to Ereinion
Sting

<sigh>, ye have opened quite a can of worms, child. Balrogs, in my opinion, probably did have wings, no matter how much I'd like them too. It requires far to much speculation and chance to say they have wings even though they drop from the sky all over the place. Legolas might'va had dark hair, as do the majority of the Elves, but I'll always picture him with blonde. Tom Bombadil is one of the most mysterious characters in LOTR. Some believe him to be Tolkien himself, others that he is a represention of the vanishing English countryside or something. I think he might be a lost Maia or something but have nothing to prove it other than my opinion. Entwives might have all become "sleepy" or been destroyed in a war. I do not know. But I can see a flame war brewing about the Balrogs...(yes, that was a dumb pun [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img])
Ereinion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2002, 05:11 PM   #5
Lush
Fair and Cold
 
Lush's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: the big onion
Posts: 1,803
Lush is a guest of Tom Bombadil.
Send a message via ICQ to Lush Send a message via AIM to Lush Send a message via Yahoo to Lush
Boots

Four topics from hell on a single thread! I guess it's a good thing that most of us are too tired to argue about this already.
But anyway, so, did Glorfindel really come back to ME, or was it some other elf-lord with flowing golden hair?...Kidding! Kidding! Don't pulverize me, Sharkey, I still have much to do in this life. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
__________________
~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~
Lush is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2002, 05:37 PM   #6
Keeper of Dol Guldur
Shade of Carn Dűm
 
Keeper of Dol Guldur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: 315, CNY Boys and girls.
Posts: 405
Keeper of Dol Guldur has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

Well, to settle the question about Balrog wings forever, let's just take a test shall we. What would look cooler-a huge demonic devil-like creature with wings, or a huge demonic devil-like creature without wings. I personally think that even though there is no conclusive evidence that they had wings, wings still would be cool. Very cool, and even more intimidating and dangerous. Plus, I'll say it again, the balrogs wings were only described metaphorically as great wings of shadow, but isn't the balrog itself made of shadow? Why can't that shadow be the same as the fire covering veil of shadow the balrog is enveloped by anyway? Plus Thranduil was described as having golden hair so why not his son as well. As for Bombadil-he's a leprechuan-okay he's not, but he reminds me of one. And I believe the entwives were spotted last in the Shire.
__________________
"I come from yonder...Have you seen Baggins? Baggins has left, he is coming. He is not far away. I wish to find him. If he passes will you tell me? I will come back with gold." - Khamul the Easterling
Keeper of Dol Guldur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2002, 08:43 PM   #7
CryingGlitter
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Sting

I think I will refer to the very first post on this topic about the Balrog having wings. Look at the written word of J.R.R. Tolkien himself. The Balrog did have wings.. whether they are usable or not now that is another topic. Most Elves have blond hair (refer to The Silmarillion for that).. a few don't but most of them do especially most of the ones mentioned in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Well there's my two cents - but that's not enough to rub together now a days is it?
~Daisy
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2002, 08:58 PM   #8
Glim Iceholder
Pile O'Bones
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 24
Glim Iceholder has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

Where specifically does it say most elves have blond hair, I only remember it saying that blond hair was rare out side of the Vanyar and the house of Finarfin.
Glim Iceholder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2002, 09:22 PM   #9
Kalimac
Candle of the Marshes
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Flyover Country
Posts: 780
Kalimac has just left Hobbiton.
Ring

Hmm...probably the briefest answers that are absolutely undebatable would be (1) maybe (2) either dark or light - at least we can be pretty sure it wasn't red (3) who knows - even Tolkien didn't (4) see the answer to (3). Nice way to ooze out of a huge, fruitless argument, eh? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
__________________
Father, dear Father, if you see fit, We'll send my love to college for one year yet
Tie blue ribbons all about his head, To let the ladies know that he's married.
Kalimac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2002, 09:39 PM   #10
firncristwen
Pile O'Bones
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: The light-swept paths of imagination
Posts: 15
firncristwen has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

Naaaaaah...Legolas was fair-haired. Besides, I think he was Sinudrin (sp? Sinudran? It's late). Like father, like son. The only remark ever made about his hair was when he's aiming at the Black Rider in the sky when they're on the river-banks after being in Lórien. It says that it shone dark in the moonlight...which must mean that it was dark then versus how light it was in day. That cracked me up about even Tolkien not knowing. I mean, if he doesn't know, then we are really screwed, aren't we? [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

I tend to disagree that Bombadil was JRR. It doesn't seem as if he would put himself in such role. I've always thought he was Samwise. I love Sam! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

For an excellent LotR group go here
__________________
'For many life is only the border of a
terrible dream; shall we pass, I wonder?'
...from "Quest in the Blue"
firncristwen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2002, 02:07 PM   #11
VanimaEdhel
Etheral Enchantress
 
VanimaEdhel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Wellesley College!
Posts: 1,473
VanimaEdhel has just left Hobbiton.
Send a message via AIM to VanimaEdhel Send a message via MSN to VanimaEdhel
Silmaril

Balrogs were originally Spirits of Fire (probably still were) and then Melkor corrupted them...if that is of any help. So: they probably didn't need wings.

Legolas I believe was blondish (either dark blonde or a little lighter...most likely not really light, I think). His father was blonde, so I thought he would probably be, since that was the only description we are given by Tolkien. We may have been told about his mother, if he were different from his father.

Tom? Tom is...Tom. I do not know if anyone, save maybe the Valar and Eru, know exactly what Tom is (maybe not even Tolkien). He is no man and he is all men. He is living and he is spirit...he is all and nothing.

The entwives are...who knows where. I thought they would resolve that in LotR (I thought they would be found near the Shire or something), but they didn't. The entwives are...elsewhere. Maybe they...opened a portal into our world and are terrorizing young sheep (for all I know, they could be). Or they are working at McDonald's or something...

[ March 30, 2002: Message edited by: VanimaEdhel ]
__________________
"I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes
VanimaEdhel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2002, 02:14 PM   #12
Araen
Haunting Spirit
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 70
Araen has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

Legoals is most defently fair haired. I pictured him with brownish-blond hair but still more on the blondish side. Balrogs do have wings I think, just not big fluffy, slippered feet. The rest I have no idea........
__________________
"Where is the horse and the rider, where is the horn that was blowing, they have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow, the days are damned in the west? behind the hills? there are shadows... "
Araen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2002, 05:07 PM   #13
Mirkgirl
Haunting Spirit
 
Mirkgirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 84
Mirkgirl has just left Hobbiton.
Send a message via Skype™ to Mirkgirl
Sting

The Balrogs don't have wings, don't need them, and Tolkein used wings after saying like wings, i.e. he was just using our nightmares involving winged demons.

Legolas was blonde but that about the elves is just not right.

Tom is Bombadil and that's all you need to know.

I personally believe more entwives were killed and the one left did some mysterious deeds in the Shire, but that's just my belief.

Glorfindel? Oh no that's too hot here!
__________________
"Hobbits! Well, what next? I have heard of strange doings in this land, but I have seldom heard of a hobbit sleeping out of doors under a tree. Three of them! There's something mighty queer behind this."
Mirkgirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2002, 07:50 PM   #14
Pips
Haunting Spirit
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Brandyhall, Texas
Posts: 67
Pips has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

Has anyone thought about the fact taht Tom could have been Father Time and Goldberry, Mother Earth? After all, Tom knew what was going, was not effected by the Ring. Goldberry just seems to protray the Mother Earth theam
Pips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2002, 08:19 PM   #15
Morgoth of Angband
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Sting

very good questions.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2002, 09:58 AM   #16
Aralaithiel
Ghost Eldaran Queen
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: A remote mountain in Valinor
Posts: 353
Aralaithiel has just left Hobbiton.
Pipe

OK, here's the Eldaran High Queen's input (Feel free to scan over my post! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img])...
Balrog wings - purely ornamental
Legolas - dark blonde, more like ash blonde
Tom Bombadill - way [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] character
Entwives - ???????? Jury still out on this one, and better cater a nice dinner for 'em tooa s they'll be there a while!
Glorfindel - Anyone can be resurrected (spelling?), right? Author's perogative.

[ March 30, 2002: Message edited by: Aralaithiel ]
__________________
A lelyat, wen! (Quenya Elvish for "You go, girl!"
Aralaithiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2002, 09:16 AM   #17
Fingolfin of the Noldor
Haunting Spirit
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: NH
Posts: 63
Fingolfin of the Noldor has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

to Nuredhelion, CryingGlitter and whomever else it may concern,

That passage is hardly evidence for literal "wings" and in fact lends to quite the contrary given Tolkien's figurative manner when using the specific literary structure found inthe passages in question in "The Bridge of Kazaddum."

I have done extensive research on the topic and have posted my finding and I will post a ink to them on this board shortly for you to look over if you so wish.
__________________
Sailhand of the Mariners' Guild
Fingolfin of the Noldor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2002, 09:34 AM   #18
Birdland
Ghastly Neekerbreeker
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto
Posts: 1,757
Birdland has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

Yes, the Balrog was blond.

Tom Bombadil did have wings, but they were for ornamental purposes only.

Legolas is an enigma.

And entwives had beards, so most people couldn't tell them from Ents.

I'm glad I was able to clear this up for everyone.
Birdland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2002, 09:42 AM   #19
Mayla Took
Wight
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: The Shire
Posts: 152
Mayla Took has just left Hobbiton.
Send a message via AIM to Mayla Took
Ha ha! Thanks Birdland! I think we all understand clearly now! Ha ha [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
__________________
Good Things Come in Small Packages. (And don't you forget it!)
Pippin:"What is that?!?" Merry:"This, my friend, is a pint!" Pippin:"It comes in PINTS?!?....I'm getting one!"
"Don't let your heads get too big for your hats! But if you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive."
Bilbo to Merry and Pippin

"Fool of a Took! This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party. Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance. Now be quiet!"
Gandalf to Pippin in Moria

E-mail me at mailto:ThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.comThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.com</A>
Oh, and please rate me. THANKS!
Mayla Took is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2002, 10:32 AM   #20
Nar
Wight
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 228
Nar has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

For shame, Birdland! Tom Bombadil's giant batwings were hardly ornamental! Recall how Tom was tragically killed in The First Age, when he flew too close to the light of Telperion, eldest of trees, which melted his batwings and sent him falling into the sea! Of course, he was later sent back after the Fall of Gondolin, eventually taking his rightful place as Ar-Pharazon of Numenor, as recounted in Tolkien's 'Return of the King: The Prequel.' The whole 'living in a cottage in the forest, bringing his wife flowers every day' thing was just an attempt to make up to his wife Goldberry, formerly known as Tar-Míriel, for getting their kingdom destroyed. Legend tells that she eventually forgave him-- I think it was sometime around the end of the Fifth Age, after heart-shaped chocolates had been invented. In fact, I believe Tom Bombadil, in his desperation, may have invented heart-shaped chocolates himself.
Nar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2002, 10:37 AM   #21
Fingolfin of the Noldor
Haunting Spirit
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: NH
Posts: 63
Fingolfin of the Noldor has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

Here is my work:
http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/u...&f=10&t=000137

ill bump the tread up aswell for convinence sake.
__________________
Sailhand of the Mariners' Guild
Fingolfin of the Noldor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2002, 01:21 PM   #22
Altariel
Animated Skeleton
 
Altariel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Angband (a small region in northern BC)
Posts: 50
Altariel has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

Actually, Tom Bombadil is really the Witch-King. Haven't you ever wondered why they can never be seen in the same room?

"The ol' Witch-king is a merry fellow,
Dark black his cowl is, and his crown is yellow..."
__________________
"Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy."
Altariel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2002, 02:07 PM   #23
Nar
Wight
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 228
Nar has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

Fingolfin-- I enjoyed your article. Thanks for the link. You've produced a professional argument, well-reasoned and with extensive evidence. Looking for other uses of wings in simile was a clever angle to take-- I personally find it very convincing. 'Winged' for 'swift' is a common comparison in the classics, isn't it? Tolkien was immersed in them: classics, old english epics, just no modern novels. I had been meaning to seek out a thread on the great balrog wings controversy, which I have heard whispers about; that was a nice taste of it.
Nar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2002, 07:14 AM   #24
Orodhromeus
Wight
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Greece
Posts: 106
Orodhromeus has just left Hobbiton.
Send a message via AIM to Orodhromeus
Sting

Could the beings seen outside Hobbiton at the beginning of FotR have been Ents and not Ent-wives? Was Old-man Willow a Huorn?
Orodhromeus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2002, 07:23 AM   #25
Bruce MacCulloch
Dead Man of Dunharrow
 
Bruce MacCulloch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 652
Bruce MacCulloch has just left Hobbiton.
Send a message via Yahoo to Bruce MacCulloch
Ring

Quote:
I had been meaning to seek out a thread on the great balrog wings controversy, which I have heard whispers about; that was a nice taste of it.
Didn't you know? This is the Barrow-Downs where all threads in only one of two ways: unmitigated silliness or as a Balrog wings thread! All you have to do is wait a while in almost any given thread and you will come across the wing controversy.


[ April 09, 2002: Message edited by: Bruce MacCulloch ]
__________________
`A blunderbuss, was it?' said he, scratching his head. `I thought it was horseflies!'
Bruce MacCulloch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2002, 01:26 PM   #26
Little_My*
Pile O'Bones
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Stockholm, sweden
Posts: 11
Little_My* has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

I always thought of Legolas as a blond...I thought it stood in the book...and then I saw the movie, I thought he really was blond. He probably is, I mean, if his father was?
And the Balrog, do you really think that he would fall if he really had wings? nah..I dont know...and Tom Bombadil might as well be Saddam Hussein, or Elvis, or a really powerful dude!
__________________
"Do extra-terrestrial beings exist? - the Nobel Prize winning Italian physicist, Enrico Fermi, was once asked by his disciples in California. Of course, Fermi answered - they are already here among us, they are called Hungarians..."
Little_My* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2002, 01:45 PM   #27
Mhoram
Dead and Loving It
 
Mhoram's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: The land of fast cars and loud guitars.
Posts: 363
Mhoram has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

Do Balrogs have wings?

Not real ones, no.

What Color is Legolas's Hair?

Unknown, irrelevant.

What is Tom Bombadil?

An Enigma.

Entwives?

Treeish.
Mhoram is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2002, 02:05 PM   #28
Kalimac
Candle of the Marshes
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Flyover Country
Posts: 780
Kalimac has just left Hobbiton.
Ring

Oh, so THAT's what happened to Elvis! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] . Though personally I think he'd end up more like Tim Benzedrine than Tom Bombadil, if you know what I mean...

As for Legolas, this is definitely one of those "ultimately, who cares" issues, but in "The Hobbit" isn't Thranduil described as the "golden-haired King of the Elves". I realize that "The Hobbit" isn't strictly canon, but that's one of those details which would seem kind of pointless for Bilbo to change - it's not like it makes the story any more dramatic or anything, the way "Attercop!" does.
__________________
Father, dear Father, if you see fit, We'll send my love to college for one year yet
Tie blue ribbons all about his head, To let the ladies know that he's married.
Kalimac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2002, 04:04 PM   #29
Keeper-of-Vilya
Pile O'Bones
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Rivendell
Posts: 19
Keeper-of-Vilya has just left Hobbiton.
Ring

Oh boy you really opened a can of worms ! ! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

IMHO - Legolas has BLOND hair of course ! barlogs DO have wings. and I do not have any earthly idea what Tom was, or what ever happened to the entwives....
__________________
Few can see where their road leads them till they come to its end.
Keeper-of-Vilya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2002, 12:39 AM   #30
Tarthang
Wight
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Paths of the Dead
Posts: 108
Tarthang has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

A can of worms indeed. It started out bad enough without someone having brought up glorfindel. So for what it's worth:
Balrog Wings: Decide for yourself.
Legolas' Hair: i alway's imagined it as blonde, even though as Moriquendi, odds are it was dark in coloration. Maybe we should start a thread debating wether or not his hair coloration comes from his mothers genes opposed to his fathers.
Tom Bombadil: An intentional mystery.
Entwives: Alway's interpreted the moving tree shapes in the shire from FOTR as being entwives. Hmmm...perhaps the Entwives led a group of early hobbits out of the Anduin Vale, across the Misty Mountains, enriching said hobbits with gardening cum farming techniques.
Tarthang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 04:43 PM   #31
Galadriel55
Blossom of Dwimordene
 
Galadriel55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The realm of forgotten words
Posts: 10,299
Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.
[QUOTE=Glamdring;71470]Just to clear things up, Balrogs have wings ("It's wings were spread form wall to wall; but still Gandalf could be seen...). QUOTE]

But before that it said something like "darkness spread on either side of him [B]like[B] wings". This means that barlogs don't have real wings. Or at least they can't fly - how do they fall of bridges in that case? And whats the use of You Shall Not Pass it the Balrog can fly around you?
__________________
You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

Last edited by Galadriel55; 10-27-2010 at 04:47 PM.
Galadriel55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2010, 04:32 AM   #32
Galadriel
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
 
Galadriel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: In Eldamar beside the walls of Elven Tirion
Posts: 551
Galadriel has just left Hobbiton.
1. Yes, but useless ones.

2. I would assume golden, since his father has that shade.

3. An enigma, as someone else said.

4. Are lost, probably.
__________________
"Hey! Come derry dol! Can you hear me singing?" – Tom Bombadil

Last edited by Galadriel; 11-02-2010 at 04:35 AM.
Galadriel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2010, 05:22 AM   #33
Galadriel55
Blossom of Dwimordene
 
Galadriel55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The realm of forgotten words
Posts: 10,299
Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.
about the entwives, either lost or dead.
Whether Balrogs do or do not have wings, it doesn't really matter, since they can't fly (Fire Ostriches?)
Gold is the only colour that fits Legolases almost constant cheerful mood.
__________________
You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera
Galadriel55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 04:05 AM   #34
Nerwen
Wisest of the Noldor
 
Nerwen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ
Posts: 6,701
Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.Nerwen is a guest of Galadriel in Lothlórien.
Send a message via Skype™ to Nerwen
Thumbs up

Personally, I thought this long-gone Downer had it right:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdland, whoever Birdland may be
Yes, the Balrog was blond.

Tom Bombadil did have wings, but they were for ornamental purposes only.

Legolas is an enigma.

And entwives had beards, so most people couldn't tell them from Ents.

I'm glad I was able to clear this up for everyone.
__________________
"Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.
Nerwen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 04:35 AM   #35
Mithalwen
Pilgrim Soul
 
Mithalwen's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle...
Posts: 9,916
Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Mithalwen is lost in the dark paths of Moria.
Nice find Nerwen! That has to be the definitive set of answers ...
__________________
“But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.”

Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace
Mithalwen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 09:05 AM   #36
Bęthberry
Cryptic Aura
 
Bęthberry's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 6,159
Bęthberry is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.Bęthberry is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.Bęthberry is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.Bęthberry is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerwen View Post
Personally, I thought this long-gone Downer had it right:

Originally Posted by Birdland, whoever Birdland may be
Birdland was a witty and clever, gentle, wonderful woman who graced the pages of the Downs when I joined, as you might well guess from her reply that you quote. She was never redundant, pompous, or boring--a read through her posts is well-rewarding. She's one of the lost greats of the Second Age of the forum.
__________________
I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.
Bęthberry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 09:18 AM   #37
Feanor of the Peredhil
La Belle Dame sans Merci
 
Feanor of the Peredhil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: perpetual uncertainty
Posts: 5,956
Feanor of the Peredhil is a guest of Elrond in Rivendell.Feanor of the Peredhil is a guest of Elrond in Rivendell.Feanor of the Peredhil is a guest of Elrond in Rivendell.
Send a message via MSN to Feanor of the Peredhil
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bęthberry View Post
Birdland was a witty and clever, gentle, wonderful woman who graced the pages of the Downs when I joined, as you might well guess from her reply that you quote. She was never redundant, pompous, or boring--a read through her posts is well-rewarding. She's one of the lost greats of the Second Age of the forum.
May she walk (as opposed to rest) in peace.
__________________
peace
Feanor of the Peredhil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2011, 11:58 AM   #38
Almesiva Moonshadow
Animated Skeleton
 
Almesiva Moonshadow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Serbia
Posts: 34
Almesiva Moonshadow has just left Hobbiton.
1.Did Balrogs have wings? First and foremost, I dont understand why is this question so important,and popular on almost any tolkien related forum.
Second,I beleive that there could have been many types of balrogs,just like there were many types of elves (sindar,noldor,vanyar,etc)...so for example,some lower ranked balrogs didnt have wings,while the higher ranked ones had them. So it all could have been the matter of species or something...But this is just a speculation of mine, so...

2.What is the color of Legolas' hair? I have always been convinced that Legolas was dark haired. After all, he was of sindarin heritage, and almost all the sindar elves mentioned in Tolkiens works were dark-haired (Thingol,Luthien,Daeron,etc) so Legolas must have dark haired as well, unless his mother (who is a complete mystery to us) was of vanyarian origin, or at least had an ancestor who was. I dont know, its complicated...

3.What is Tom Bombadil? Its enough to know Golberry's quote from the book, to know the answer to this question:"He is." and some other quotes like "Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... he knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless — before the Dark Lord came from Outside." The dark lord, could have easily been Sauron after the fall of Numenor, but if that were the case, Tom Bombadil wouldnt have been "the eldest" as mentioned in this quote "Eldest, that's what I am". So the dark lord must have been Melkor and not Sauron,thus leaving me convinced that Tom is acctually the incarnation Iluvatar.

As for the entwies...I dunno...they got cought by Greenpeace?...
Okay...I know...a very bad joke...
__________________
"...Aim for the moon,if you miss,you may hit a star..."
-W.Clement Stone-

Last edited by Almesiva Moonshadow; 03-18-2011 at 12:06 PM.
Almesiva Moonshadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2011, 02:35 PM   #39
Galadriel55
Blossom of Dwimordene
 
Galadriel55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The realm of forgotten words
Posts: 10,299
Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.Galadriel55 is lost in the dark paths of Moria.
Did Balrogs have wings: Who cares? They can't fly anyways.

Or they could have pocket mini-wings.

Legolas' hair colour: He dyes it a different colour every other week.

Who is Tom Bombadil: The guy who's singing nonesense all the time.

Entwives: They are trying to figure out where they are. They're lost, aren't they?
__________________
You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera
Galadriel55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2011, 08:10 AM   #40
Galadriel
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
 
Galadriel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: In Eldamar beside the walls of Elven Tirion
Posts: 551
Galadriel has just left Hobbiton.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galadriel55 View Post
Did Balrogs have wings: Who cares? They can't fly anyways.

Or they could have pocket mini-wings.
Doesn't make much biological sense Unless they evolved from birds of flight. What an interesting story that would make...
__________________
"Hey! Come derry dol! Can you hear me singing?" – Tom Bombadil
Galadriel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:52 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.